# Of Doves and Vipers

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-doves-and-vipers/127377>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 7, 2002, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-doves-and-vipers/127377 "2002-09-07T02:28:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2002, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-doves-and-vipers/127377/41 "2002-09-08T21:10:45Z")

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My God, go- that made me groan in pain. Horrible, horrible.

🙂

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2002, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-doves-and-vipers/127377/42 "2002-09-08T22:19:55Z")

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wow. that is the longest ppost I have ever seen that could be summed up as “I’m sorry”.

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**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2002, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-doves-and-vipers/127377/43 "2002-09-08T23:26:20Z")

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Okay, **Scylla**. I’m sorry I called you a moron in that other thread. You would have to go a long, long way to negate all your contributions to the board, and you didn’t do it there.

Here’s a tip, though - I don’t think some people will be happy with your symbolism, however lovely, in the place of a more straightforward response. Good luck anyway.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2002, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-doves-and-vipers/127377/44 "2002-09-09T00:43:31Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Zette \*  
> \*\*My God, go- that made me groan in pain. Horrible, horrible.
> 
> 🙂 \*\*

Don’t \* encourage\* him!

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2002, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-doves-and-vipers/127377/45 "2002-09-09T14:49:14Z")

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That poor dead horse- will you people stop flogging it?

Yeesh.

[Maude Flanders] Won’t _somebody_ think of the children? [/Maude Flanders].

on-topic:

Oh, and I agree- organized hunts like that are pathetic. Responsible husbandry of the land is one thing- “fish in a barrel” hunting is another. What’s the point?

That’s only a small step above those despicable “petting zoo” type game preserves where the game is taught through feeding not to fear humans right until the slaughter begins. Oy. That’s not hunting-- that’s slaughter.

Plus the amount of drunk hunters now make the public land woods unsafe during the season now, even in orange. Sad. :mad:

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2002, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-doves-and-vipers/127377/46 "2002-09-09T15:40:59Z")

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I went dove hunting before with friends.

In addition to a few dove, I also had to shoot a viper in it’s pit because the fool thing kept coming at me. Surprised me so I blew it’s head off.

The shocker was that the next day when I skinned it, it’s cold heart was still beating.

Never did forget that and I avoid them now. They’re evil.

The dove? A jalapeno wedge in a slit next to the sternum before you wrap with bacon is nice. Use mild, warm or hot depending on your personal taste.

Nice story, Scylla.

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2002, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-doves-and-vipers/127377/47 "2002-09-09T16:12:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by grienspace \*  
> \*\*I can see hunting doves and deer, but groundhogs. What purpose is there to shooting a groundhog? As a kid, my cousin and I used to throw rocks at groundhogs on my uncles farm. \*\*

Grondhogs are a destructive agricultural pest in Central PA, where **Scylla** lives. They’re also wary, dig almost invulnerable bunker/burrows, and are _very_ hard to get rid of. They’re big, agressive, and will severly damage most dogs.  
Shooting is the most efficient way of getting rid of them.

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