# Off-beat Movie Trivia
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [July 15, 2001, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577 "2001-07-15T14:25:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2001, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/21 "2001-07-16T22:40:54Z")
At the beginning of **Gladiator** , the war cries of the Germanii are lifted directly from the soundtrack of **Zulu** (1963).
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### Author:  [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2001, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/22 "2001-07-16T22:50:42Z")
In the beginning of Kennth Brannah’s _Dead Again_, the character Roman is seen in prison being prepared for execution. As an insdie joke that Brannagh had also directed and starred in _Henry V_, the number on Roman’s prison clothes is the date of the Battle of Agincourt.
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### Author:  [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2001, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/23 "2001-07-16T22:54:47Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Sofa King \*
> In watching _Night of the Hunter_ the other night, I _think_ I may have seen a young Warren Beatty spit out a completely uncredited one-liner (he’s the cap-wearing teenager leaning against the wall in the alley shot).
I just purchased that movie on DVD. What part of the movie? Do you mean when one of Rachel Cooper (Lillian Gish)'s foster “girls” comes out of the store and Rev. Powell (Robert Mitchum) tries to “sweet-talk” her?
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### Author:  [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2001, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/24 "2001-07-16T22:57:31Z")
“Die Hard” is TECHNICALLY a sequel to the Frank Sinatra
film “The Detective,” as both movies are based on novels by the same author,who used the same lead character in both books. Also, a then-unknown Bruce Willis has a walk-on role in the Sinatra film.
Stuff I learned from the new “Die Hard” DVD…
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### Author:  [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2001, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/25 "2001-07-16T23:41:16Z")
With an x-acto knife and some glue, you can re-arrange the title on posters for the 1986 Judge Reinhold movie _Off Beat_ to read “Beat Off”. Do enough of them and become a campus hero. Now that’s trivia my friends.
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### Author:  [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2001, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/26 "2001-07-17T00:45:33Z")
I’m sure I’m the last person on earth to figure out that Travis Bickle’s “You talkin’ to me” bit from _Taxi Driver_ is a reference to the scene from _Shane_ where Chris confronts Shane in the bar.
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### Author:  [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2001, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/27 "2001-07-17T01:23:24Z")
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> \*Originally posted by HelloKitty \*
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> > \*Originally posted by Ethilrist \*
> > \*\*The guy who made Alien made that movie just after almost going broke trying to make Dune. He got it about half-finished… god, I’d love to see the dailies for that… \*\*
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> What do you mean by “half-finished”? Did another producer or director take over half way through the filming?? \*\*
I remember that Alexandro Jodorowosky was supposed to direct a version of _Dune_ in the late 70’s, early 80’s and that each of the three planets where to be represented by a different band, one was Tangerine Dream, another Pink Floyd and I don’t remember the third.
Now for my pieces of trivia, Clint Eastwood had is screen debuts in _Revenge of the Creature_ and that Leonard Nimoy had a very small part (a cameo really) in the 50’s SF classic _Them !_.
On, and I don’t know if that counts, but Groucho Marx claimed to have lost its virginity in Montréal ! 😃
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### Author:  [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2001, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/28 "2001-07-17T02:47:48Z")
Sofa King writes:
\> In watching Night of the Hunter the other night, I think
\> I may have seen a young Warren Beatty spit out a
\> completely uncredited one-liner (he’s the cap-wearing
\> teenager leaning against the wall in the alley shot).
I’m pretty sure this isn’t the case. _Night of the Hunter_ came out in 1955. Warren Beatty graduated from high school that year. He didn’t graduate from Northwestern University until 1959, and it was that year that he went to Hollywood and got his first acting job there (playing the character of Milton Armitage in the TV series _Dobie Gillis_).
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### Author:  [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2001, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/29 "2001-07-17T13:46:23Z")
**Euty**
I thought it was the AE-35 unit in 2001 that was going to fail. I watch it tonight to make sure.
Another thing about Star Wars is that John Williams used a bit of music from Psycho in the scene where they come out of the hidden compartment in the Falcon while on the DeathStar.
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### Author:  [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2001, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/30 "2001-07-17T14:16:00Z")
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> \*Originally posted by HelloKitty \*
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> > \*Originally posted by Ethilrist \*
> > \*\*The guy who made Alien made that movie just after almost going broke trying to make Dune. He got it about half-finished… god, I’d love to see the dailies for that… \*\*
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> What do you mean by “half-finished”? Did another producer or director take over half way through the filming?? \*\*
Neither, and there are no dailies. Not a single second of film was ever rolled on either Jodorowsky or Ridley Scott’s “Dune” projects. Artists H.R. Giger and Jean Giraud spent a great deal of time developing conceptual artwork, and Jodorowsky prepared a script and preproduction work, but the project fell apart long before principal photography was ever an issue. Ridley Scott’s project never even got that far, but he did hire Giger on to design the production for “Alien.” Nobody went broke, nobody got anything half-fiished.
Giger’s conceptual art for “Dune” can be seen [here](http://sites.netscape.net/idahoprime/giger).
**Zebra** –You’re right-it was the AE-35 unit.
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### Author:  [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2001, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/31 "2001-07-17T15:03:10Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Stephe96 \*
> \*\*“Die Hard” is TECHNICALLY a sequel to the Frank Sinatra
> film “The Detective,” as both movies are based on novels by the same author,who used the same lead character in both books. Also, a then-unknown Bruce Willis has a walk-on role in the Sinatra film.
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> Stuff I learned from the new “Die Hard” DVD… \*\*
Even better: One of Sinatra’s co-stars in “The Detective” was Lloyd Bochner. Lloy’d son is Hart Bochner, who co-starred as Ellis in “Die Hard.”
Is that true, about Willis being in “The Detective,” though? He would only have been 13 years old at the time.
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### Author:  [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2001, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/32 "2001-07-17T16:23:55Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Crunchy Frog \*
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> Another Harrison Ford bit: He wanted the Han Solo character to die at the end of _Return of the Jedi_. \*\*
Another little bit of _Star Wars_ trivia. When Han Solo is about to be lowered into the carbon-freezing chamber, Leia says “I love you.” Han responds with “I know.” That was improvised. Leia’s lines were written the say Carrie Fisher spoke them. Harrison Ford ad-libbed the “I know.”
More random trivia:
The name Marvin Nash is in both _Reservoir Dogs_ and _Pulp Fiction_.
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### Author:  [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2001, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/33 "2001-07-17T16:33:36Z")
Phil Collins was an extra in “A Hard Day’s Night.”
Joe Pesci first found fame as a member of the rock group Joey Dee and the Starlighters (“The Peppermint Twist”). He appeared in a film with them in 1961.
Robert Blake appeared opposite Humphrey Bogart in “The Treasure of Sierra Madre” (playing a paperboy).
Boris Karloff’s name was left off the opening credits of “Frankenstein” (They merely said “The Monster . . . ???”)
The first use of the word “gay” to mean “homosexual” in the mainstream media was by Cary Grant in “Bringing Up Baby” in 1938. When asked why he was wearing Katherine Hepburn’s dressing gown, he said “Because I just went gay all of a sudden.”
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### Author:  [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2001, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/34 "2001-07-17T17:08:54Z")
Ah…I knew I’d have others–these deal with records:
\ ***Caligula** has the record for the most cuts by a censor, for a sexual-explicit film. The Japanese censors imposed 450 “blurs” to shield audiences from the sight of parts of the human anatomy they believed should be revealed only to one’s spouse.
\*Charlie Chaplin’s **City Lights** has the record for most takes. It took 343 takes to work out how to get the blind flower girl to mistake Charlie Chaplin for a rich man. With recent movies, the record goes to Stanley Kubrick’s **The Shining**. One scene with Shelly Duvall took 127 takes.
\*The longest movie title is **Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Son of the Bride of the Return of the Revenge of the Terror of the Attacks of the Evil, Mutant, Hellbound, Zombified, Flesh-Eating, Sub-humanoid Living Dead–Part 4** (1993). Gee…must have gone straight to video.
\*The funeral scene of **Gandhi** (1982) had the most extras–300,000 people. 94,560 of them were contracted at a rate of one dollar for the day and the remainder were unpaid volunteers summoned by the press.
\ ***The Flintstones** (1994) had 32 scriptwriters.
\*Richard Donner’s **Superman** (1978) has the record for longest credit sequence: 12 minutes.
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### Author:  [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2001, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/35 "2001-07-17T18:19:11Z")
**Wendell** is most likely correct. But take a look at it anyway, **Arnold**. It is indeed the scene where the girl sneaks away for sewing lessons. The guy’s line is, “must be Thursday,” or something like that. Check out the smirk. It’s uncanny.
As an extra little bit of sort-of-trivia, you might consider Shelley Winters’ role in _Night of the Hunter_ as compared to her similar role in _Lolita_. Along the same lines, Janet Leigh finds herself in closely analogous situations in both _Touch of Evil_ and _Psycho_. An advanced form of typecasting, perhaps?
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### Author:  [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2001, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/36 "2001-07-17T18:24:50Z")
Oops, that didn’t come out right. I meant to say that Janet Leigh also found herself in nearly the same situation in two different films. Janet’s and Shelley’s situations are not similar to each other, except that they are all creepy.
Since I feel obligated to toss out more junk, _Outland_ is essentially a sci-fi remake of _High Noon_, but you’d all know that if you saw them both.
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### Author:  [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2001, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/37 "2001-07-17T19:08:34Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Ethilrist \*
> \*\*Marcia Strassman, who played Gabe Kotter’s wife on Welcome Back, Kotter, was known as “Bullet” among the crew due to the fact that whenever they pointed a camera at her, her nipples pointed right back… they had to use gaffer’s tape to keep her in check. \*\*
As evidence of my mispent youth, I’ll dispute this. It wasn’t Strassman. This story was related by Angie Grabowski, who played Melanie Haller on the show, in the copy for her Playboy layout a few years later. She also said that the tape didn’t work, so they had to reshoot whole scenes in a heavily padded bra.
Anyhow, that was TV trivia.😃
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### Author:  [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2001, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/38 "2001-07-17T20:23:53Z")
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> \*Originally posted by HelloKitty \*
> **In nearly every John Landis movie somewhere the phrase “See you next Wednesday” is either spoken or written in the background somewhere. For example, in _Trading Places_, the phrase is on a fake movie poster in Jamie Lee Curtis’s apartment. The phrase is Landis’ tribute to Stanley Kubrick…in _2001: A Space Odyssey_ when Heywood Floyd is talking on the phone to his daughter, he says this to her.**
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It’s also said during the movie that Michael Jackson is watching during the beginning of _Thriller_.
“'There’s a note…written in blood.
‘What’s it say?’
‘See you next Wednesday.’”
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### Author:  [@HelloKitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelloKitty)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/39 "2001-07-18T01:28:20Z")
Eddie Murphy was seriously considered for a starring role for the-then-in-development **Star Trek IV**. At the time, Eddie was basically the biggest star in movies, just having come off **Beverly Hills Cop** , and he contacted the producers asking to become involved. But the writers couldn’t find a way to work him into the whale story that made sense, so it didn’t come to pass (thankfully!!).
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### Author:  [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/40 "2001-07-18T03:06:27Z")
I’m sure everyone knows this one, but it’s my favourite so I’m posting it anyway. In Star Wars, when Luke gets out of his starfighter after his successful gopher shoot and Princess Leia runs up and congratulates him, he calls her “Carrie”, not “Leia”.
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