# Off-beat Movie Trivia
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [July 15, 2001, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577 "2001-07-15T14:25:22Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/41 "2001-07-18T04:08:57Z")
Anna Leonowens (of _Anna and the King of Siam_ fame) had a nephew named William Pratt, better known as Boris Karloff.
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### Author:  [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/42 "2001-07-18T06:16:06Z")
HelloKitty,
Actually the Murphy role was indeed written. The first draft by Steve Mears and Peter Sykes (IIR their names correctly) had a loony college professor encounter Kirk, et al. This was to be the role Murphy played. Dissatisfied with the script, Harvey Bennett rewrote the entire thing up until Spock’s line “Judging by the pollution content of the atmosphere, it would appear that we have arrived at the latter half of the 20th century.” This line and on until the final trial sequence was written by Nicholas Meyer who has stated something to the effect, “I just ripped off myself, and wrote in sequences that I had to drop from TIME AFTER TIME.” Bennett took back over and wrote the final scenes. Mears and Sykes petitioned the Writers Guild and got screenplay credit after Bennett and Meyer.
Sir Rhosis
The factory manager’s secretary, Marilyn (“Not now, Marilyn!”), was Cassandra Harris, aka Elvira.
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### Author:  [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/43 "2001-07-18T06:21:58Z")
FWIW, I got both their names wrong.
Steve Meerson and Peter Krikes were the writers of the first draft of STAR TREK IV: THE VOYAGE HOME.
Sir Rhosis
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### Author:  [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/44 "2001-07-18T09:26:36Z")
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> \*Originally posted by neptune\_1984 \*
> One scene with Shelly Duvall took 127 takes.
I’d like to go on record as saying that watching Shelly Duvall do _anything_ 127 times would be more than enough to make me believe I had died and gone to hell.
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### Author:  [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/45 "2001-07-18T13:15:51Z")
featherlou writes:
\> I’m sure everyone knows this one, but it’s my favourite
\> so I’m posting it anyway. In Star Wars, when Luke gets
\> out of his starfighter after his successful gopher shoot
\> and Princess Leia runs up and congratulates him, he calls
\> her “Carrie”, not “Leia”.
Not according to IMDb. The goofs section on _Star Wars_ says:
\> Incorrectly regarded as goofs: It is frequently claimed
\> that upon returning to the Rebel base after destroying
\> the Death Star, Luke exclaims, “Carrie!” when he hears
\> Leia (Carrie Fisher) call “Luke!” Sound designer Ben
\> Burtt has confirmed that, after extensive listening, it
\> appears to be “Hey” or “Yay”; Mark Hamill reports that he
\> said, “Hey! There she is!” but mumbled the last word.
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### Author:  [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/46 "2001-07-18T14:52:34Z")
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> \*Originally posted by KneadToKnow \*
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> > \*Originally posted by neptune\_1984 \*
> > One scene with Shelly Duvall took 127 takes.
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> I’d like to go on record as saying that watching Shelly Duvall do _anything_ 127 times would be more than enough to make me believe I had died and gone to hell. \*\*
**The Shining** DVD has _The Making of The Shining_ by aspiring film maker Vivian Kubrick (Stanley’s daughter—she’s also plays Heywood Floyd’s daughter in **2001** ), and it is hilarious when Kubrick gets annoyed at Duvall. There’s this one part where she’s supposed to go through the doors out into the snow to check out the CAT, and the doors get stuck or they’re too heavy (she says) and Kubrick is enraged. There’s another part where Duvall is lying down in the kitchen because of exaustion and Kubrick is pretty annoyed about that, too, because I think he thought she was over-reacting. The whole thing is fun just to see Kubrick treat Duvall like a five-year-old child, when she was acting like one at times.
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### Author:  [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/47 "2001-07-18T16:22:21Z")
This is probably common knowledge (for the longest time I thought it was a myth - but I have heard it from some reliable sources so…) In “Citizen Kane” the name Rosebud (that turns out to be the sled that Kane played on as a child) was the nickname that William Randolph Hearst had for Marion Davies’ clit (No wonder Hearst worked so hard to keep “Citizen Kane” out of the theaters).
Shooting on “True Grit” was held up for four weeks because Glen Cambell refused to say the word “bastard” in his opening scene (he felt his fans would be offended). Finally John Wayne, fed up with the delay, announced he would talk with “that little son of a b\*tch”. Thirty minutes later, looking quite a bit worse for wear, Cambell reported to the set. The irony is that locals claim that not long after the film cast and crew left their Western Colorado location where the film was made, Cambell left not one but two illigetimate children.
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### Author:  [@Fionn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fionn)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/48 "2001-07-18T17:01:04Z")
My thanks to the Internet Movie Database for these:
In _Dr. Strangelove_, a pilot reads a list of emergency supply kit items that includes money, lipsticks, pep pills, etc. He comments that “Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.” The line was originally that a fellow could have a pretty good time in Dallas, but this line was overdubbed after President Kennedy was assasinated in Dallas. The release of the movie was also delayed.
Bela Lugosi was offered the role of Frankenstein, but he turned it down because it wasn’t a speaking role and he wanted to design his own makeup.
The sword used by Inigo in _The Princess Bride_ was also used in _The Crow_.
In _South Park-Bigger, Longer and Uncut_, the piano that accompanies Big Gay Al’s “I’m Super” is a Feltcher and Sons.
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### Author:  [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/49 "2001-07-18T18:42:41Z")
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> \*Originally posted by TV time \*
> \*\*In “Citizen Kane” the name Rosebud (that turns out to be the sled that Kane played on as a child) \*\*
Not everyone has seen C.K., and that is one hell of a spoiler to drop in without any warning. You may want to send a note to a friendly mod and ask for it to be edited out or at least a “SPOILER WARNING” inserted.
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### Author:  [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/50 "2001-07-18T19:00:36Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Rhythmdvl \*
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> > \*Originally posted by TV time \*
> > \*\*In “Citizen Kane” the name Rosebud (that turns out to be the sled that Kane played on as a child) \*\*
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> Not everyone has seen C.K., and that is one hell of a spoiler to drop in without any warning. You may want to send a note to a friendly mod and ask for it to be edited out or at least a “SPOILER WARNING” inserted. \*\*
😕 Is the statute of limitations on spoilers for movies not related to the age of said movie anymore? Is it relative to the critical acclaim it received instead? I only ask because someone made a spoiler reference on another thread to a movie that came out mid-80’s (I believe), and it was generally accepted because of how long it had been since the movie was released. Is there a difinitive answer?
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### Author:  [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/51 "2001-07-18T19:42:51Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Wendell Wagner \*
> \*\*featherlou writes:
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> I’m sure everyone knows this one, but it’s my favourite so I’m posting it anyway. In Star Wars, when Luke gets out of his starfighter after his successful gopher shoot and Pincess Leia runs up and congratulates him, he calls her “Carrie”, not “Leia”.
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> Not according to IMDb. The goofs section on _Star Wars_ says:
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> Incorrectly regarded as goofs: It is frequently claimed that upon returning to the Rebel base after destroying the Death Star, Luke exclaims, “Carrie!” when he hears Leia (Carrie Fisher) call “Luke!” Sound designer Ben Burtt has confirmed that, after extensive listening, it appears to be “Hey” or “Yay”; Mark Hamill reports that he said, “Hey! There she is!” but mumbled the last word. \*\*
[Post edited by me to clean up the format]
Well, if that’s as clear as we can get on this, then as far as I’m concerned, he mumbled “Hey, Carrie!” cause it makes a better story.😛
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### Author:  [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/52 "2001-07-18T20:15:51Z")
Oooh. **Ballybay** , you should be voted Honorary SDMB Movie Trivia Overlord for that Feltcher and Sons one. That’s a pip.
Here’s a fairly well known one: _The Conqueror_, starring John Wayne as Genghis Khan, was filmed in part on location just downrange from a Nevada nuclear testing site. Coincidence or not, something like 90 members of the cast and crew had contracted cancer by the early 1980s.
“The Kid”, from Charlie Chaplin’s _The Kid_, was none other than Jackie Coogan, a.k.a. “Uncle Fester” from “The Addams Family”.
Sterling Hayden, General “Jack” Ripper from _Dr. Strangelove_, served in the OSS during World War II, where he earned a Silver Star for commanding a flotilla of blockade-running sailing ships in the Adriatic.
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### Author:  [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/53 "2001-07-18T20:26:26Z")
In Raising Arizona after John Goodman and his brother escape they are in a gas station bathroom and the letters POE are graffiti on the stalls.
Is this some sort of reference? To Strangelove? ‘our precious essence ect’
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### Author:  [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/54 "2001-07-18T20:55:33Z")
In **The French Connection,** in what is called one of the greatest car chase sequences of all time, the route through New York City was only barricaded off a few minutes before the shoot, which they could only do once due to various issues. Some of the people you see scrambling madly for their lives (including a young mother with a baby in a stroller) weren’t extras…
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### Author:  [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/55 "2001-07-18T21:15:10Z")
The opening scenes in “Stripes,” including Bill Murray stopping the cab on the bridge, were really filmed in Louisville, Kentucky
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### Author:  [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/56 "2001-07-18T21:19:25Z")
Also, while I’m thinking about it, some of the baseball sequences for “Eight Men Out” were filmed in Churchill Downs, home of the Kentucky Derby.
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### Author:  [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2001, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/57 "2001-07-18T22:08:48Z")
In the movie “Tora, Tora, Tora”, during one of the airfield attack scenes, there is some flaming wreckage of an aircraft careening out of control, sending some mechanics scrambling for their lives…they weren’t acting. The prop (as in “the plane wreckage”, not as in “the propellor”) really _was_ out of control, and they really _were_ scrambling for their lives!
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### Author:  [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2001, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/58 "2001-07-23T00:46:54Z")
\*Originally posted by RealityChuck \*
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> **Phil Collins was an extra in "A Hard Day’s Night."**
I believe that’s been debunked.
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### Author:  [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2001, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/59 "2001-07-23T08:17:09Z")
The movie “Apt Pupil”, based on the Stephen King novella, was filmed twice. The first version starred Rick Shroeder, and was all but finished with filming, needing only editing and post production. A change in the studio power structure led to post-production funding being refused for the over-budget picture. The picture was then made again when the studio’s rights to it ran out (with Brad Renfro, IIRC).
Tom Selleck had been signed to be Indiana Jones and was prepared to begin filming, when the pilot for Magnum, P. I. was picked up.
Guy Hamilton wanted Burt Reynolds to be the next James Bond in “Live and Let Die”.
Pierce Brosnan had been signed to replace Roger Moore as James Bond, until the Producers of Remington Steele capitalized on the attendant publicity to pick up his option. They made three or four tv “movies”, all of which flopped, and the series was cancelled again.
“The Living Daylights” was written specifically for Roger Moore, whom the producers hoped to lure back after Brosnan was forced from the role. Dalton was hired essentially at the last minute.
Kevin McClory’s lawsuit claiming that he co-owned the rights to James Bond prevented planned Dalton pictures in 1991 and 1993, and likely up to the end of the nineties.
Had McClory won, his Bond would most likely have been Pierce Brosnan, which would have resulted in two series of Bond movies, one with Dalton and one with Brosnan (and SPECTRE, as McClory owns the rights to it).
In “Shane”, Alan Ladd is usually filmed from unusual angles to hide his diminutive stature. In two-shots, he’s standing on a box.
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### Author:  [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2001, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/off-beat-movie-trivia/72577/60 "2001-07-24T13:19:39Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Number Six \*
> In “Shane”, Alan Ladd is usually filmed from unusual angles to hide his diminutive stature. In two-shots, he’s standing on a box.
Hey! Another _Shane_ reference!
I guess that explains why that titanic fight scene between Shane and Joe takes place mainly on the other side of the wall from the camera!
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