# Office(s) - April 9, 2009 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 10, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600 "2009-04-10T01:20:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/41 "2009-04-10T18:52:54Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > It’s not inconceivable that Michael convince one or two of the larger clients he brought to D-M to switch over to MSPC, thereby making D-M nervous and/or annoyed enough to buy him out. I still can’t see how they’d be able to engineer a full series reset, though. I could see Michael making retention of all MSPC personel a condition of the sale, but I can’t see them putting him back in his old job as Regional Manager. More likely, I think, is that he, Pam and Ryan would be given sales jobs and either Charles would conitinue to manage the office or somebody else (Jim or Dwight) would be promoted to RM. I could see them sticking Michael back in that position based on the clients leaving, and the Scranton branch doing worse under Charles’ management. Loved both episodes. Cringeworth and laughfilled. I love the sarcastic Jim who always ends up on top. But, I equally love the stupid Jim who can get nothing right. He’s smarter than that! But, it’s hilarious how he is messing up each time. “I don’t like soccer. I PLAY it.” stttttttupid! And, it was awesome seeing Dwight call him on it. Seeing Dwight and Andy as buddies was super fun. I loved how the singing started as a contest for Kelly and ended up being a duet where she felt out of place. ---
**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/42 "2009-04-10T18:53:15Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Don’t know. Maybe it was just a pointless task to waste his time. Maybe it was so that his clients could be divided among others. > > I’m almost wondering if we’re seeing the end of D-M when all of their talented people move to the MSPC. Customer service is what their show has always been about, and if the people who were giving them that service all leave D-M, well… > > -Joe They stuff themselves into the MSP office to get away from Charles. D-M under Charles underperforms, Charles gets canned, D-M headquarters outsources to MSP, who then move back into their old D-M digs. The circle is completed! ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/43 "2009-04-10T18:59:42Z")
“‘You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take’ [indent][indent][indent]-Wayne Gretzky”[/indent][/indent][/indent] [indent][indent][indent][indent]-Michael Scott[/indent][/indent][/indent][/indent] ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/44 "2009-04-10T19:03:36Z")
> [@Erdosain](#): > > Best line of the season, by far: > > Kevin: I thought Rajaniganda was a boy’s name. > > I had to pause the TiVo to compose myself. I thought Andy’s line about his maid dying was just hilariously unexpected. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/45 "2009-04-10T19:10:15Z")
“You are _murdering_ the Nard-Dog!” By the way, I didn’t know bowling alley “shoe bitches” made $65K a year. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/46 "2009-04-10T19:20:45Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > By the way, I didn’t know bowling alley “shoe bitches” made $65K a year. It’s about as realistic as his sun bleached hair 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/47 "2009-04-10T19:20:51Z")
Well, it’s Ryan. He was lying. ---
**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/48 "2009-04-10T19:25:20Z")
I thought he said $16K? I started laughing out loud at work today when I thought about the new opening credit sequence from last night. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/49 "2009-04-10T19:27:00Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Who’d have thought that Michael Scott Paper would actually get a client. Granted they still need to actually get the paper from somewhere. I think Michael mentioned he got off the phone with suppliers. Anything in the law regarding two competing companies being in the same office building? Wonder if Charles is concerned about Jim’s fiancée being a part of MSPC. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/50 "2009-04-10T19:28:02Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > …although Pam is hot now. Eh, she’s a six or a seven. ---
**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/51 "2009-04-10T19:28:22Z")
Nope. I used to work in an office building which had a competing insurance company 3 floors above us. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/52 "2009-04-10T19:31:19Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Anything in the law regarding two competing companies being in the same office building? Of course not. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/53 "2009-04-10T19:33:30Z")
Just asked because I didn’t know, but now I do. Was afraid it may seem like a stupid question, but you don’t learn unless you ask. Thnks for the answer you two 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/54 "2009-04-10T19:35:31Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > It seems like Charles was told by the head office that Jim was a star and should probably replace Michael. Charles is out to prove them wrong. Had the same thing happen to me once when my new boss walked in the door having heard from a mutual friend that I was a solid performer. The guy went out of his way to make my life miserable. It’s called “making yourself look good by making others look bad.” No offense, but either some of you people work in the crapiest companies ever, or your perception may be out of wack based on your analysis of Jim’s situation. Charles knows nothing about Jim. He comes to this office full of weird screw-ups run by an imbecile. In his first encounter with Jim, he’s wearing a tuxedo at work (which he later explains is for a prank…also not appropriate) and is in a meeting suggesting something about a 2-way petting zoo (you pet the animals and they pet you). Then he proceeds to ramble on about his made up assistant manager job. If he is giving Jim a hard time, it is because he has rightly been given the impression that Jim does not take his job seriously and spends more time playing practical jokes, talking to the secretary and goofing off. Ryan was out to get Jim because he perceived him as a threat. Charles just thinks Jim is a bad employee. What I’ve always found with new boses is you just do your job, be quietly eager to help out, and just sort of leave them alone. Once they trust that you’ll do the work then they become more comfortible with your personality quirks. But I know as a manager if I came to a new office and found people goofing off or telling me what superstars they were, I’d be concerned that they don’t take their job seriously or were prima-donas or something. Anyhow, that’s my The Office working tip of the day. ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/55 "2009-04-10T19:48:40Z")
I heard Ryan say $16k a year. Which seems about right for a bowling alley employee. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/56 "2009-04-10T19:53:46Z")
> [@corkboard](#): > > I heard Ryan say $16k a year. Which seems about right for a bowling alley employee. He said 60K. That’s what made Pam so incredulous. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/57 "2009-04-10T19:56:44Z")
> [@pricciar](#): > > He said 60K. That’s what made Pam so incredulous. Yes, he said $60k per year, obviously as a negotiating tactic for taking his new job at MSPC. (He does have an MBA, remember. 🙂 ) Pam (but not Michael) thought it rather remarkable that he’d have a yearly salary at all, being a shoe bitch. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/58 "2009-04-10T19:57:28Z")
> [@corkboard](#): > > I heard Ryan say $16k a year. Which seems about right for a bowling alley employee. Ryan definitely said “$60,000 a year.”\* To which Pam replied dubiously, “You get paid by the year at the bowling alley?” Ryan: “What do you make, secretary?” Ryan’s supervisor: “Get back to work, shoe bitch!” \*He was lying, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/59 "2009-04-10T20:14:00Z")
> [@mack](#): > > They stuff themselves into the MSP office to get away from Charles. D-M under Charles underperforms, Charles gets canned, D-M headquarters outsources to MSP, who then move back into their old D-M digs. The circle is completed! I think Charles is going to fire some people from DM (Jim?) and they are going to make their way to the MSPC. Soon everyone from DM will be working for the MSPC. Then the MSPC will just buy their old office space back and everything will go back to normal except that Micheal will have his own company. At first I didn’t see how Micheal could pull this one off, but his shamelessness is turning out to be a huge asset. He has no problem throwing a pancake event with his embarrassing little company. He has no problem pretending that he is working from a legitimate office. You need someone at a start-up company believing that the company is serious, even when its not. Michael will keep pretending that his company can handle clients just as well as DM and that’s how he’ll take over DM. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600/60 "2009-04-10T20:39:09Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > … And why has Ryan gone from ambitious corporate VP MBA douche to just plain ole douche?.. He’s a narcissistic convicted felon who can’t get a better job than bowling alley shoe bitch without playing into Michael’s man-crush on him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/office-s-april-9-2009/492600.md?page=4)