# \* \* \* ! Official 2016 US Presidential Election Day Thread ! \* \* \* **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 7, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947 "2016-11-07T14:05:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/201 "2016-11-08T23:56:18Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Until a few moments ago, I was unaware that [Kentucky has an adult illiteracy rate of about 40%.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Kentucky) I find that number unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/202 "2016-11-08T23:57:59Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Until a few moments ago, I was unaware that [Kentucky has an adult illiteracy rate of about 40%.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Kentucky) That seems likely to be an error of some sort in the source article, or else they’re using a very stringent definition of “literacy.” [This site](https://nces.ed.gov/naal/estimates/StateEstimates.aspx) estimates the illiteracy rate in Kentucky at 12%, as of 2003. I doubt it’s gone up since then. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/203 "2016-11-08T23:58:32Z")
Is Nate Silver updating his Presidential odds frequently? (We need to know for a subthread about prediction assessment.) David Rothschild showed Hillary at 90% for a day or two but bumped it to 91% an hour or two ago. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/204 "2016-11-09T00:00:35Z")
> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#): > > That seems likely to be an error of some sort in the source article, or else they’re using a very stringent definition of “literacy.” [This site](https://nces.ed.gov/naal/estimates/StateEstimates.aspx) estimates the illiteracy rate in Kentucky at 12%, as of 2003. I doubt it’s gone up since then. Do you know who _else_ used a very stringent definition of “literacy”? ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/205 "2016-11-09T00:00:41Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Is Nate Silver updating his Presidential odds frequently? (We need to know for a subthread about prediction assessment.) > > David Rothschild showed Hillary at 90% for a day or two but bumped it to 91% an hour or two ago. According to 538 his last update was 9 hours ago. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/206 "2016-11-09T00:01:43Z")
First batch of projections - IN, KY for Trump, VT for Clinton. No surprises there. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/207 "2016-11-09T00:01:55Z")
GA – TOO CLOSE TO CALL. That’s great for Hillary. VA – Too early to call, but Hillary leading (according to MSNBC). IN – called for Trump. No surprise, but that it wasn’t in doubt means that we’re probably not getting a huge blowout. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/208 "2016-11-09T00:02:09Z")
MSNBC calling Indiana & Kentucky for Trump; Vermont for Clinton. No surprises there. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/209 "2016-11-09T00:02:38Z")
Edit: I’m too slow! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/210 "2016-11-09T00:03:36Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I find that number unlikely. When I was in college, I spent a spring break doing volunteer work in Vanceburg, KY - northeast part of the state. We were informed that in the county which we were in, that 75% of the adult population were “functionally illiterate”. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/211 "2016-11-09T00:04:26Z")
I just want to tell you good luck. We’re all counting on you. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/212 "2016-11-09T00:05:59Z")
> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#): > > That seems likely to be an error of some sort in the source article, or else they’re using a very stringent definition of “literacy.” [This site](https://nces.ed.gov/naal/estimates/StateEstimates.aspx) estimates the illiteracy rate in Kentucky at 12%, as of 2003. I doubt it’s gone up since then. Well, I would expect the adults to be far less literate than the younger generation. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/213 "2016-11-09T00:06:48Z")
They have to wait until 8:00PM to start projecting for Florida, as a teensy part of the western section is in the CST. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/214 "2016-11-09T00:07:46Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > They have to wait until 8:00PM to start projecting for Florida, as a teensy part of the western section is in the CST. Calling Florida before the Panhandle closes? What’s the worst that could happen? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/215 "2016-11-09T00:07:48Z")
OK, as near as I can work out, the source for the 40% illiteracy figure in Kentucky dates from the Kentucky Adult Literacy Survey in 1997, which revealed that 40% of working adults had “modest, marginal or no functional literacy skills.” I wouldn’t take that as gospel in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![Implicit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Implicit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Implicit)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/216 "2016-11-09T00:07:52Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Is Nate Silver updating his Presidential odds frequently? (We need to know for a subthread about prediction assessment.) > > David Rothschild showed Hillary at 90% for a day or two but bumped it to 91% an hour or two ago. Now that states are being called the odds are updating. No significant change from pre-result with the early calls, at 72% for Clinton now. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/217 "2016-11-09T00:08:39Z")
Typically arrogant Canadian. > > [@](#): > > As a non American waiting for the results is stressful! Now I know how Americans must have felt during the last Canadian election. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/218 "2016-11-09T00:09:36Z")
Note though, **Riemann** , that the first numbers to start trickling in from precincts are usually _not_ indicative of the whole. Precincts with fewer people will usually report quicker than those with more people, and some states straddle multiple time zones, and there might be geographic differences. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/219 "2016-11-09T00:11:12Z")
Bellweather Vigo County, Indiana. The winner there has won the election in the last 15 Presidential elections…Trump is leading. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/220 "2016-11-09T00:11:40Z")
HuffPo is currently showing Trump with twice as many votes as Clinton in Florida. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947.md?page=12)