# \* \* \* ! Official 2016 US Presidential Election Day Thread ! \* \* \*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 7, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947 "2016-11-07T14:05:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/561 "2016-11-09T02:26:29Z")

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> [@Honey](#):
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> I knew it! I knew it! We’re all gonna die. We’re all gonna fucking die!!
> 
> What the hell happened America. How could you be so stupid??

We’ve had the two worst candidates maybe of the entire history of the country.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/562 "2016-11-09T02:26:56Z")

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Anyone heard from **asahi** lately?

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/563 "2016-11-09T02:27:38Z")

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He posted earlier in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/564 "2016-11-09T02:27:44Z")

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Nate Silver’s variance estimate is looking a lot better than Wang’s.

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**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/565 "2016-11-09T02:28:07Z")

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I blame Comey for this…she was doing just fine before that damn thing about the emails at the final hour.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/566 "2016-11-09T02:28:34Z")

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> [@drewder](#):
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> We’ve had the two worst candidates maybe of the entire history of the country.

Correction: We have the stupidest, most assholeish, least intelligent electorate in the entire history of the country. GodDAMN!

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/567 "2016-11-09T02:29:43Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I’m thinking that, too. I’m not ready to give up yet. Lots of action still ahead tonight!

Very true but after the Midwest and East comes into focus there’s not much that could shift out West to change things. That’s why I’m especially worried about Virginia.

I had thought that Clinton could lose FL, NC, OH, and NH and still be OK (as long as she got MI, WI, PA, and VI). She’ll get PA, WI and MI, I think, but this Virginia thing is worrying me.

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**Author:** ![Neo-Calredic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/96bed5/32.png) [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/568 "2016-11-09T02:29:50Z")

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> [@Zeke\_N.Destroi](#):
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> Guy can’t successfully sell steaks to Americans but is in danger of successfully selling himself.
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> Really, you’d rather eat his shit than his beef?

Well, a lot of Americans are really, really, really stupid. ☹

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**Author:** ![Zeke\_N.Destroi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/4af34b/32.png) [@Zeke\_N.Destroi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeke_N.Destroi)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/569 "2016-11-09T02:29:51Z")

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Seriously folks you all didn’t see this shit coming?

Look at the horror of the 1st Bush II election and the vitriol coming out of it. Look at the heinous shit that has spewed forth - from both sides - since Obama took over.

You’ve got a woman few people can stand with a soft following and a guy few people can stand with a hardcore following just because they hate anything that isn’t red, WHITE, and blue (with a dick).

About 20 years ago Canada had a referendum to see if we’d keep Quebec. It was a campaign full of anger and bigotry (against French people) and I had little doubt that the referendum would succeed and we would “allow” Quebec to stay in Canada.

I was right. It passed by 50.6% to 49.4%. Canada seems to have seen the results and collectrively said, “Holy shit!!! what did we almost do?!?” Relations have been much better since then - not perfect but better.

Here’s hoping you all have that sort of near-miss and awakening and smarten the fuck up.

You’ve been acting (by proxy) like little snotty kids for a dozen or so years now and that is why you are chewing on your nails right now.

I truly hope this election serves as a reckoning and you have a chance to grow from it.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/570 "2016-11-09T02:29:55Z")

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Yikes! Sam Wang tweets:

"OK, I sense that maybe I should be researching bug recipes.

Luckily there are no sore winners on Twitter!"

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/571 "2016-11-09T02:30:25Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Anyone heard from **asahi** lately?

What do you want to hear? Hey, I told you all that this was going to be a potentially close race.

That said, I don’t quite understand the panic just yet. Trump is not walking away with this yet. It’s just heartburn close. I thought it could be. Now you had DSeid and everyone else lecturing me on how the numbers don’t lie or some shit like that.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/572 "2016-11-09T02:30:25Z")

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Are there even enough votes left to be counted in Florida for her to make up the ground? Only 3% left.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/573 "2016-11-09T02:30:37Z")

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Fairfax County, baby. Fairfax County.

I lived there a couple years!

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/574 "2016-11-09T02:31:04Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Okay, to give me some context for what’s going on, given past trends and demographics and so on, what exactly are the surprises so far?

538s [results coverage](http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2016-election-results-coverage/?ex_cid=extra_banner) mentioned this from OHIo exit polls

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> Clinton also appears to be struggling with union households in the state; she and Trump are splitting that vote, whereas President Obama won that group by 23 points in 2012.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/575 "2016-11-09T02:31:12Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> She’ll get PA, WI and MI, I think, but this Virginia thing is worrying me.

[NYT still has VA as 95% Clinton](http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/virginia). Look at the remaining counties and you’ll see they’re all heavily Democratic.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/576 "2016-11-09T02:31:16Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Without Ohio, North Carolina, Florida and Virginia, Hillary will lose. She needs at least 1. I totally underestimated how much the US hates her.

Well, if you want to trust the NYT’s little predictor tool ( I wouldn’t, necessarily ) it is virtually ceding him Florida and Ohio and strongly leaning his way in NC. However for some reason they’re almost certain Clinton will pull out Virginia. We’ll see.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/577 "2016-11-09T02:31:19Z")

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51% Trump likelihood at NYtimes.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/578 "2016-11-09T02:31:39Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> What do you want to hear? Hey, I told you all that this was going to be a potentially close race.

Oh, I was just going for a little levity. God knows we all need some!

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**Author:** ![manila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e5b9ba/32.png) [@manila](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manila)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/579 "2016-11-09T02:32:09Z")

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Ah bless you guys, you so cute when you give the world reality TV in the oval office.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/580 "2016-11-09T02:32:42Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> The Southeast of Florida seems to have more than enough to take this, right?
> 
> Right?

I don’t know. I’ve been trying to do the math.

Miami-Dade County: 94% of precincts reporting, HRC is up by ~287K votes.  
Broward County: 63% of precincts reporting, HRC is up by ~266K votes (this looks like her best chance to pick up the votes she needs to pull ahead)  
Palm Beach County: 93% of precincts reporting, HRC is up by ~94K votes.

Overall, Trump leads Florida by ~141K votes. Not sure about other counties that haven’t reported.

On a related note, Trump just went to 53% chance of victory in the [NYT prediction](http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president). Take that with a grain of salt.

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