# \* \* \* ! Official 2016 US Presidential Election Day Thread ! \* \* \* **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 7, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947 "2016-11-07T14:05:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/801 "2016-11-09T03:29:26Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Is it too little too late, though? Unknown at this point, but it’s not looking good. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/802 "2016-11-09T03:29:27Z")
You need to start preparing yourself now for a Trump win now both emotionally and financially because it is more likely than not at this point. I am an Never-Trumper and voted for Gary Johnson but strange things happen sometimes. I just hope that it doesn’t start riots or other chaos if it does happen. Stock market futures are already plummeting. It is a good thing I sold all of mine a while ago. Maybe I can get a good deal in a few weeks. On the plus side, Trump wants to be Head of State but not a real President. He can delegate all the important stuff to his VP and Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan who are both fairly competent at governing. You have to try to find the rainbow in the turd sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/803 "2016-11-09T03:30:10Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > But surely you know you aren’t an appropriate model to use when drawing a picture of all (or even most) Americans? Why would you think that? Because I want to believe that my fellow Americans have a soul (define it however you will). That they can put principle and ideal above hatred and groupthink. ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/804 "2016-11-09T03:30:25Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > But 538 now has Trump at 55% chance of winning the Electoral College But they pretty much tell you their ‘live’ result isn’t very meaningful because only includes called states. Meanwhile S&P futures just dipped below 100 ticks down, triple digit move in an overnight session, not sure that’s ever been seen before. It’s moved that much during normal trading hours. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/805 "2016-11-09T03:30:30Z")
I am freaking the hell out. I have never been so sick to my stomach at the results of an election. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/806 "2016-11-09T03:30:40Z")
Back in March, \*Slate \*had an article “This is How the West Ends”: > **[We Are Two or Three Bad Elections From the End of the West](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/03/can-nato-and-the-eu-survive-donald-trump-french-nationalists-and-a-brexit.html)** > > Back in the 1950s, when the institutions were still new and shaky, I’m sure many people feared the Western alliance might
 never take off. Perhaps in... Author Anne Applebaum describes how, with a then possible Brexit, a then possible Trump victory, and a possible Marine Le Pen victory in France, that “Right now, we are two or three bad elections away from 
the end of NATO, the end of the European Union, and maybe the end of the liberal world order as we know it.” Some may say that it’s alarmist but it is worrying. Maybe if Trump wins, once he’s faced with actually doing the job, he will moderate somewhat but I’m certainly not confident. The article is worth a read. I am watching the coverage of the election results and I’m certainly worried. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/807 "2016-11-09T03:30:54Z")
I am truly terrified. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/808 "2016-11-09T03:31:30Z")
> [@standingwave](#): > > Why, he could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and he wouldn’t lose voters. > > :eek: Well, he’d lose the voter he shot, at least. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/809 "2016-11-09T03:31:42Z")
It’s all down to Florida. ---
**Author:** ![Sterling\_Archer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sterling\_Archer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterling_Archer)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/810 "2016-11-09T03:31:43Z")
It may actually come down to Nevada ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/811 "2016-11-09T03:31:43Z")
CNN isn’t calling Virginia yet. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/812 "2016-11-09T03:31:50Z")
So are the crucial ones left Florida, Michigan, and California? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/813 "2016-11-09T03:32:28Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > So are the crucial ones left Florida, Michigan, and California? California not crucial. Arizona would be the saving grace potential. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/814 "2016-11-09T03:32:36Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Is it too little too late, though? No too late, just necessary. It was a “must hold” state. HC has held serve so far, she just has lost every toss-up. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/815 "2016-11-09T03:32:37Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Well, he’d lose the voter he shot, at least. Assuming facts not in evidence, your honor! ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/816 "2016-11-09T03:32:40Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > …And they said so in 2012. > > …And they said so in 2008. > > …And they said so in 2004. And in 1972. Wait — that was now’s the time to finish the screw. Oh well ------- close enough no matter who wins. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/817 "2016-11-09T03:33:07Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > … He can delegate all the important stuff to his VP and Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan who are both fairly competent at governing. You have to try to find the rainbow in the turd sometimes. Pence scares me more than Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/818 "2016-11-09T03:33:38Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > The African American voters who stayed home had better realize that red states are going all out to make sure they NEVER get a chance to vote again – EVER. > > I’ve said it before. This country is going back to the late 19th Century. It’s the second coming of Jim Crow. It’s coming, and minorities had better be ready for it. A tad hysterical, don’t ya think? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/819 "2016-11-09T03:33:40Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > It’s all down to Florida. She can lose Florida. She just can’t lose Florida + Michigan. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/820 "2016-11-09T03:33:45Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > So are the crucial ones left Florida, Michigan, and California? Florida, Michigan, & Wisconsin. He needs any two of those and he’s ahead in all three. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947.md?page=42)