# \* \* \* ! Official 2016 US Presidential Election Day Thread ! \* \* \*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 7, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947 "2016-11-07T14:05:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/961 "2016-11-09T04:07:08Z")

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I’m looking at articles from, say, _yesterday_ ([for example here](http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/final-election-update-theres-a-wide-range-of-outcomes-and-most-of-them-come-up-clinton/)) and I don’t understand how the polls were so damn wrong.  
So, so, so, so, so wrong.

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**Author:** ![Neo-Calredic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/96bed5/32.png) [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/962 "2016-11-09T04:07:39Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> This might kill it even faster.

This might kill a lot of things faster. ☹

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/963 "2016-11-09T04:07:59Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> …Chances are the markets will indeed tank tomorrow, just as they did in the UK immediately after the Brexit vote, but chances are good that they will recover quickly as the panic wears off, again just as they appear to have done in the UK. At least I hope so; my 401(k) is about to get hammered bigly.

First of all, the markets trade 24 hours. We know where they are: down 4.5% with an 80% probability of a Trump win priced in.

It’s a fallacy that the markets recovered in the UK; or, they did in GBP terms, but that does not reflect domestic economic prospects. The FTSE-100 is packed with huge multinational companies - around 80% of FTSE-100 revenues are in $. It rallied in GBP terms, but only because the GBP collapsed, automatically increasing foreign revenues for those companies. In effect, if you were a UK-based investor long the FTSE-100, you lucked out because you really had international investments, not domestic investments.

The US is not set up in the same way. The stock market will bear the brunt of the uncertainty. Having said that, aside from the uncertainty element, Trump is probably nowhere near so bad for the US economy as Brexit is for the UK economy. The concerns with Trump are not primarily economic, they are in social and foreign policy.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/964 "2016-11-09T04:08:09Z")

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CBS is calling North Carolina for The Donald … one more domino falls … click …

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**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/965 "2016-11-09T04:08:24Z")

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Will we even bother with polling after this? I mean, what a waste of time. I don’t think I’ve ever been so disappointed.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/966 "2016-11-09T04:08:27Z")

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They weren’t, or at least not yet. Undecides are in fact breaking more for Trump than Clinton. This was not a surprise, if you listened to The Guru.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/967 "2016-11-09T04:08:39Z")

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> [@5\_time\_champ](#):
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> Yippee! Clinton wins California.

Not the biggest surprise in the world, though. Those 55 electoral votes have been in the Democrat column since the election cycle began (so, November 2012 basically).

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/968 "2016-11-09T04:09:05Z")

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I fear we are all doomed. Doomed I say! DOOMED!

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/969 "2016-11-09T04:09:07Z")

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CNN just called North Carolina for Trump. ☹

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**Author:** ![Zeke\_N.Destroi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/4af34b/32.png) [@Zeke\_N.Destroi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeke_N.Destroi)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/970 "2016-11-09T04:09:40Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> And Imperator Trump shall divorce Meliania in favour of Ivanka.

Jesus man 😃

You kick ass!

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/971 "2016-11-09T04:09:46Z")

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Welp, it is starting to look like I am going to have to buy a gun and learn how to hunt. Just like last cycle, I have switched over to Fox News to watch the ending, though for different reasons this year. The money quote (to me) on Fox: “All of the smart people, on both sides, were wrong.”

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/972 "2016-11-09T04:10:02Z")

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Jesus. What the fuck have you done America?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/973 "2016-11-09T04:10:25Z")

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But I don’t **want** to live in a Third-World country!

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/974 "2016-11-09T04:10:28Z")

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I’m afraid to check Facebook. People are probably going ballistic.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/975 "2016-11-09T04:10:43Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> CNN just called North Carolina for Trump. ☹

CNN is about 15 minutes behind everyone else.

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/976 "2016-11-09T04:10:57Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> it’s 11AM here and I’m at work, but I’m seriously considering going and buying a good bottle of shochu or two. (At least I’m the boss so no one can tell me not to drink at work).
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> Can someone explain how the exit polls can be so wrong?

The exit polls have been wrong many times before. 2004 was especially bad.  
[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22188-2005Jan19.html?nav=rss\_politics/elections/2004](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22188-2005Jan19.html?nav=rss_politics/elections/2004)

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**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/977 "2016-11-09T04:11:20Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> B/c racists might also be liars.

Or maybe when you tell people they’re deplorable they stop answering pollsters.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/978 "2016-11-09T04:11:29Z")

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> [@Nema98](#):
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> My state of California has afforded Hillary a nice breathing space, and given her a lead over Donald, coupled with those 4 electoral votes from Hawaii.

No, it offers her no breathing space at all.

California was always in the bag for Clinton.

The running total of electoral college votes, now, is effectively meaningless unless and until it includes definitive results for key battleground states like North Carolina (just called for Trump), Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Florida.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/979 "2016-11-09T04:11:37Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> But I don’t **want** to live in a Third-World country!

Unfortunately, a lot of Americans actually do.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/980 "2016-11-09T04:11:52Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> But I don’t **want** to live in a Third-World country!

Hey, you’ll still get electricity at least 4 hours each day. And manufacturing jobs will come pouring back in at the new $1.25 MW!!

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