# \* \* \* ! Official 2016 US Presidential Election Day Thread ! \* \* \*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 7, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947 "2016-11-07T14:05:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/81 "2016-11-08T18:18:27Z")

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Let the lawsuits begin!  
Breaking on CNN, Trump filing in Nevada over early voting due to polls staying open late for those still in line.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/82 "2016-11-08T18:20:06Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> This is amazing:
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> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/JjzpsSK.png)
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> Edit: Like father like son
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> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/thVUkkK.png)

Try to be charitable. Father and son were probably both trying to figure out just what exactly you’re supposed to do here. Probably neither of them had ever done this democracy thing before. Today seemed like a good time to show how much they cared.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/83 "2016-11-08T18:21:33Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> Not sure if this has been posted already, but [Slate and VoteCastr are publishing real-time estimates](http://www.slate.com/votecastr_election_day_turnout_tracker.html) of voter turnout throughout the day, ignoring the customary blackout of exit poll data until the polls close.

Has anyone been watching this to see updates? I haven’t actually noticed anything change, but now I’m going to document some of this so that I can see if they’re making updates:

As of right now, I see:  
CO = 59.8% of expected votes observed, HRC leads 46.3% to 43.6% for DJT  
FL = 52.4% of expected votes observed, HRC leads 48.6% to 45.2% for DJT  
IA = 33.3% of expected votes observed, HRC leads 48.5% to 43.5% for DJT  
NV = 46.2% of expected votes observed, HRC leads 46.7% to 45.2% for DJT  
OH = 22.7% of expected votes observed, HRC leads 47.9% to 43.9% for DJT  
PA = 3.4% of expected votes observed, HRC trails 42.9% to 49.9% for DJT  
WI = 17.3% of expected votes observed, HRC leads 52.7% to 40.3% for DJT

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/84 "2016-11-08T18:25:47Z")

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It’s interesting to me that Jon Ralston believes 66+% of the Nevada vote is already in but VoteCastr only thinks 46.2% is in.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/85 "2016-11-08T18:29:03Z")

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Honoring Susan B. Anthony on Election Day: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/08/politics/susan-b-anthony-gravesite-voting-stickers-irpt/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/08/politics/susan-b-anthony-gravesite-voting-stickers-irpt/index.html)

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/86 "2016-11-08T18:29:23Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> I don’t generally watch the TV news, and as I’ve been watching recently I literally cannot distinguish visually between the innumerable hot blonde all-American female presenters/pundits on the various channels. Ironically, this forces me to stop ogling them as sex objects, since the only way I can distinguish between them is to listen to what they are saying, “oh, right, that’s the smart one that I like”, or “oh, right, that’s the Trump surrogate moron”.

For me, there’s only one name you need to know: Nicole Wallace (MSNBC). Dayum. Her only defect is that she’s a Republican. 😃

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/87 "2016-11-08T18:31:04Z")

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I realize a lot of people have voted early, but my heavily Democratic precinct had more poll workers than voters there. No wait in line, just went right in and voted.

I think the Democrats may have blown their wad early.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/88 "2016-11-08T18:32:41Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I realize a lot of people have voted early, but my heavily Democratic precinct had more poll workers than voters there. No wait in line, just went right in and voted.
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> I think the Democrats may have blown their wad early.

Just means the Republicans have to sleep on the wet spot.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/89 "2016-11-08T18:33:25Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> This is the most important day in American history, folks.

…And they said so in 2012.

…And they said so in 2008.

…And they said so in 2004.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/90 "2016-11-08T18:36:00Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> This is the most important day in American history, folks. GOTV if you can.

> [@Velocity](#):
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> …And they said so in 2012.
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> …And they said so in 2008.
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> …And they said so in 2004.

None of those claims are mutually contradictory.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/91 "2016-11-08T18:36:35Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Let the lawsuits begin!  
> Breaking on CNN, Trump filing in Nevada over early voting due to polls staying open late for those still in line.

[Voting polls irregularities](http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/08/politics/voting-polls-irregularities-election-2016/index.html) tracking article.

Don’t know what they can expect.

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> Trump lawyers are asking for an order to have the pertinent early vote ballots not to be “co-mingled or interspersed” with other ballots.

Do they really think a judge is going to say “You’re right. Throw out all those votes”? I guess they are just sowing seeds for the future “we was robbed” narrative but this seems like a weak one.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/92 "2016-11-08T18:37:06Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Let the lawsuits begin!  
> Breaking on CNN, Trump filing in Nevada over early voting due to polls staying open late for those still in line.

[Article](http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/08/politics/nevada-voting-lawsuit-donald-trump/index.html)

> [@](#):
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> Washington (CNN)In a sign that the legal team for the Trump campaign is aggressively laying the groundwork for potential legal challenges – big and small – lawyers have gone to state court in Nevada in an early vote dispute.  
> They are suing Joe P. Gloria, the Clark County registrar of voters, over a decision they allege he made to keep polling locations open “two hours beyond the designated closing time.” The lawsuit targets polling places in the greater Las Vegas area that have larger minority voting precincts.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/93 "2016-11-08T18:37:55Z")

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As has been the case all year long, there are only two likely outcomes: Either Hillary wins in a rout, or Trump wins narrowly.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/94 "2016-11-08T18:40:19Z")

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On this voting-hour issue, I think the Trump campaign actually does have a legitimate complaint.

If you are going to keep the polls open past closing hours for one blue district, then they should be open equally past hours for all precincts, state-wide. Selectively allowing a blue district to keep voting past closing hours, but shuttering a red district’s polls on time, seems partisan.

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**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/95 "2016-11-08T18:40:46Z")

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voted at 9:30am in my polling place in Loudoun Country VA. Typically a blue county the last two contests, so interested to see how this goes for us. my vote was the 945 cast that morning (per the ballot machine) and the polls opened at 8am. So pretty brisk pace… but I was in and out in 15 min.

I’m hoping for the HRC blowout… but would settle for a 271 EV win… 🙂

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/96 "2016-11-08T18:42:32Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> None of those claims are mutually contradictory.

Reminds me of that Daily Show episode when they were making fun of news stories every year saying “this is the worst season for allergies/pollen counts ever” and showed clips from the last 5 years. The punchline is an expert comes on stage and says they’re right, it’s been getting worse every year.

That said, I think this is more important to go one way than the previous few elections.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/97 "2016-11-08T18:42:47Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Has anyone been watching this to see updates? I haven’t actually noticed anything change, but now I’m going to document some of this so that I can see if they’re making updates:
> 
> As of right now, I see:  
> CO = 59.8% of expected votes observed, HRC leads 46.3% to 43.6% for DJT  
> FL = 52.4% of expected votes observed, HRC leads 48.6% to 45.2% for DJT  
> IA = 33.3% of expected votes observed, HRC leads 48.5% to 43.5% for DJT  
> NV = 46.2% of expected votes observed, HRC leads 46.7% to 45.2% for DJT  
> OH = 22.7% of expected votes observed, HRC leads 47.9% to 43.9% for DJT  
> PA = 3.4% of expected votes observed, HRC trails 42.9% to 49.9% for DJT  
> WI = 17.3% of expected votes observed, HRC leads 52.7% to 40.3% for DJT

It’s updating. CO, for example, is now showing 72.2% of expected votes in. (HRC 47%, DJT 42%).

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/98 "2016-11-08T18:44:59Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> On this voting-hour issue, I think the Trump campaign actually does have a legitimate complaint.
> 
> If you are going to keep the polls open past closing hours for one blue district, then they should be open equally past hours for all precincts, state-wide. Selectively allowing a blue district to keep voting past closing hours, but shuttering a red district’s polls on time, seems partisan.

If no one is in line, the place is closed. If there is still a line, they are allowed to vote. No one is allowed to join the line after closing time.

How is that unfair?

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/99 "2016-11-08T18:45:02Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> On this voting-hour issue, I think the Trump campaign actually does have a legitimate complaint.
> 
> If you are going to keep the polls open past closing hours for one blue district, then they should be open equally past hours for all precincts, state-wide. Selectively allowing a blue district to keep voting past closing hours, but shuttering a red district’s polls on time, seems partisan.

Nevada state law stipulates that anyone in line when polls close will be allowed to vote, which is the only thing that is alleged to have happened. Unless there is evidence that either people were allowed to get in line after polls closed, or that people in red districts were made to leave despite being in line at closing time, there is no legitimacy to the complaint.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/100 "2016-11-08T18:45:46Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> On this voting-hour issue, I think the Trump campaign actually does have a legitimate complaint.
> 
> If you are going to keep the polls open past closing hours for one blue district, then they should be open equally past hours for all precincts, state-wide. Selectively allowing a blue district to keep voting past closing hours, but shuttering a red district’s polls on time, seems partisan.

I’d agree with this _if_ there were precincts that still had people in line who closed on time.

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