# \* \* \* ! Official 2016 US Presidential Election Day Thread ! \* \* \*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 7, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947 "2016-11-07T14:05:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/101 "2016-11-08T18:47:02Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> Nevada state law stipulates that anyone in line when polls close will be allowed to vote, which is the only thing that is alleged to have happened.

According to [this article](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/08/trump-campaign-files-nevada-lawsuit-claiming-people-were-improperly-allowed-to-vote.html), the Trump campaign is alleging that voters who _weren’t_ standing in line when the polls closed were allowed to vote.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/102 "2016-11-08T18:48:47Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> For me, there’s only one name you need to know: Nicole Wallace (MSNBC). Dayum. Her only defect is that she’s a Republican. 😃

Katy Tur is pretty hot, and it’s not really my thing, but so is her father!

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/103 "2016-11-08T18:49:35Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> It’s updating. CO, for example, is now showing 72.2% of expected votes in. (HRC 47%, DJT 42%).

You’re right, thanks. Looks like HRC has increased her estimated lead in CO, FL, and NV. She flipped PA to her column, and lost ground in OH and WI. IA flipped to DJT.

Obligatory disclaimer: \*\*\* THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES, NOT ACTUAL VOTES BEING COUNTED \*\*\*

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/104 "2016-11-08T18:52:35Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> According to [this article](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/08/trump-campaign-files-nevada-lawsuit-claiming-people-were-improperly-allowed-to-vote.html), the Trump campaign is alleging that voters who _weren’t_ standing in line when the polls closed were allowed to vote.

A lawsuit to stop people from voting.

They don’t give a shit that these people were eligible to vote. They just want to stop them. Just a coincidence that they were Latino.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/105 "2016-11-08T18:54:01Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> On this voting-hour issue, I think the Trump campaign actually does have a legitimate complaint.
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> If you are going to keep the polls open past closing hours for one blue district, then they should be open equally past hours for all precincts, state-wide. Selectively allowing a blue district to keep voting past closing hours, but shuttering a red district’s polls on time, seems partisan.

The polls stay open until everyone who was in line at closing time votes, he does not have a point.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/106 "2016-11-08T18:56:35Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> That said, I think this is more important to go one way than the previous few elections.

But they said that in 2012, 2008… 🙂

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/107 "2016-11-08T18:56:44Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> According to [this article](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/08/trump-campaign-files-nevada-lawsuit-claiming-people-were-improperly-allowed-to-vote.html), the Trump campaign is alleging that voters who _weren’t_ standing in line when the polls closed were allowed to vote.

Ok, I suppose I should rephrase to “all that is alleged to have happened by anybody who has any credibility”.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/108 "2016-11-08T18:56:54Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Reminds me of that Daily Show episode when they were making fun of news stories every year saying “this is the worst season for allergies/pollen counts ever” and showed clips from the last 5 years. The punchline is an expert comes on stage and says they’re right, it’s been getting worse every year.
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> That said, I think this is more important to go one way than the previous few elections.

off topic- the expert that came out is a friend of mine.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/109 "2016-11-08T18:57:02Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> On this voting-hour issue, I think the Trump campaign actually does have a legitimate complaint.
> 
> If you are going to keep the polls open past closing hours for one blue district, then they should be open equally past hours for all precincts, state-wide. Selectively allowing a blue district to keep voting past closing hours, but shuttering a red district’s polls on time, seems partisan.

Don’t they allow polls to stay open to ensure everybody in line gets to vote? Let’s see some documentation from “red” districts in which those in line were told to go home without voting.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/110 "2016-11-08T18:58:35Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> A lawsuit to stop people from voting.
> 
> They don’t give a shit that these people were eligible to vote. They just want to stop them. Just a coincidence that they were Latino.

I don’t think “eligible to vote” and “being subject to poll-closing deadlines” are contradictory.

A professor can tell his students that they are all eligible to take a certification exam, but that they have to show up before 5:00 PM.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/111 "2016-11-08T18:58:44Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> You’re right, thanks. Looks like HRC has increased her estimated lead in CO, FL, and NV. She flipped PA to her column, and lost ground in OH and WI. IA flipped to DJT.
> 
> Obligatory disclaimer: \*\*\* THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES, NOT ACTUAL VOTES BEING COUNTED \*\*\*

And also remember [lessons from the past](http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2004-11-04/news/0411040026_1_exit-polls-john-kerry-early-polls).

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> The [2004 exit poll] results were also nearly uniformly wrong - showing John Kerry with considerable leads in key states.  
> …  
> “The entire political community, until about 6 or 7 o’clock … was convinced, based on these numbers, that John Kerry was going to win.”

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/112 "2016-11-08T19:00:23Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> Don’t they allow polls to stay open to ensure everybody in line gets to vote? Let’s see some documentation from “red” districts in which those in line were told to go home without voting.

My understanding is that they’re supposed to let anyone who is in line to vote at the official poll closing time to vote. If the line is long, it might take an extra hour or two to give all those voters an opportunity to vote. However, if the polls were supposed to close at 7:00 PM and someone showed up at 8:00 PM, they’re not supposed to be allowed to vote, even if there’s still a line with people in it that showed up between 6:30 and 7:00 that are still waiting to vote.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/113 "2016-11-08T19:00:33Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> **Don’t they allow polls to stay open to ensure everybody in line gets to vote?** Let’s see some documentation from “red” districts in which those in line were told to go home without voting.

They sure do. That’s what Trump is complaining about.  
“The democratic system is unfair! Sad.”

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/114 "2016-11-08T19:02:07Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> For me, there’s only one name you need to know: Nicole Wallace (MSNBC). Dayum. Her only defect is that she’s a Republican. 😃

Sure, but then Trump’s only defect is that he’s a narcissistic racist misogynistic sociopathic orange liar.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/115 "2016-11-08T19:39:37Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> For me, there’s only one name you need to know: Nicole Wallace (MSNBC). Dayum. Her only defect is that she’s a Republican. 😃

That name will forever and always be associated with that deliciously evil psycho, Nicole Wallace, from Law & Order: Criminal Intent.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/116 "2016-11-08T19:43:52Z")

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Whenever someone has that stupid excuse for voting for Trump: “I just think it’s time for a change”, I just want to say “How about nuclear Winter, would that be enough of a _change_ for you?”

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/117 "2016-11-08T19:45:51Z")

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> [@Honey](#):
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> Whenever someone has that stupid excuse for voting for Trump: “I just think it’s time for a change”, I just want to say “How about nuclear Winter, would that be enough of a _change_ for you?”

The best analogy for this that I’ve heard:

If you think the bus is going in the wrong direction, you don’t address the problem by letting the drunk guy drive.

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**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/118 "2016-11-08T19:48:36Z")

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Which network do the teeming millions think is going to provide the best election results reporting?

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/119 "2016-11-08T19:51:34Z")

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> [@MLS](#):
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> Which network do the teeming millions think is going to provide the best election results reporting?

Breitbart. The exploding heads will be magnificent.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/120 "2016-11-08T19:54:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> they have to show up before 5:00 PM.

Right. And if my teaching assistant is checking IDs and people who were lined up by 5:00 PM are not admitted to the testing room until later, they get to take the test. /professor

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