# \* \* \* ! Official 2016 US Presidential Election Day Thread ! \* \* \* **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 7, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947 "2016-11-07T14:05:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1261 "2016-11-09T05:14:12Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > There’s been a lot of talk this evening about financial markets being down precipitously tonight. But is that really due to “Donald Trump looks like he’s going to win”? Or is it more a case of “What we all thought was going to happen, looks like it’s not happening”? If there is one thing that the financial markets don’t like, it’s uncertainty. It’s really due to ‘Donald Trump’s going to win’. If both candidates were conventional the market wouldn’t care nearly as much if the polls were wrong. It moved so much tonight because the election predictions were wrong _and_ Trump himself as president introduces much more uncertainty, as markets perceive it. BTW we can’t fully see now how far down the US stock market is because the S&P futures have reached their overnight trading limit of 5% down. Asian markets though are mostly down less than that in their normal trading hours, only the Japanese stock market is down more 5% so far. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1262 "2016-11-09T05:14:15Z")
If Trump wins, I blame HRC. She should have had this in the bag. But then, she should have had it in the bag in 2008, too. And she almost lost to Bernie in 2016, too. Face it, she’s a terrible campaigner on a national level. ---
**Author:** ![Sterling\_Archer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sterling\_Archer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterling_Archer)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1263 "2016-11-09T05:14:21Z")
Well, democracy was fun. I guess let’s try something else for a while. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1264 "2016-11-09T05:14:37Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > It’s not that bad. Nate Silver points out that Clinton may actually win the popular vote by close to what the polls thought. Great, then Clinton will have done better than Selina Meyer. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1265 "2016-11-09T05:14:44Z")
> [@AngelSoft](#): > > Maybe when he was yelling about the vote being rigged he was talking about rigging he was doing himself. I just HOW is he doing so well in states that are almost always blue states. I don’t get it. White people. White people really, really like Trump. I don’t get it either. (I am a white person.) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1266 "2016-11-09T05:15:32Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Once and for all: _Considering all the people he has screwed over throughout his career, and his lifelong goal of doing for Trump and Trump alone, why the holy FUCK do you Republicans believe a fucking thing that comes out of his mouth?_ > > Why won’t any of you step up and answer this one simple question? Because on this board a) most of us conservatives do not support Trump, and b) even the few that do know who he is. We might actually have to make an effort to recruit real Trump fans, the most intelligent we can find, or else this board will spend the next four years being even less representative than it already is. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1267 "2016-11-09T05:15:39Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > That’s a curse you know. Pretty sure the curse has already been cast. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1268 "2016-11-09T05:16:08Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > 538 points out that Clinton has underperformed Obama with African-American and Latino voters. You just can’t chalk this up solely to white anger. And it’s something some of us had been pointing out since 2010 and the President himself called attention to in his Howard commencement speech earlier this year: _the Obama voters show up **for him** _. If he’s not there, then it’s “whaat-everrr…” The thing is, a black/latino working class voter has been lagging under “the system” as it has stood the past 20 years just as much or worse as the “white working class” voter and what did Clinton bring into the game for them? _More_ of “the system”?? ---
**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1269 "2016-11-09T05:16:23Z")
Well here’s one thing for you’ll to be happy about Sherriff Joe Arpaio lost. ---
**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1270 "2016-11-09T05:16:52Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > You know, in the past, when the presidential candidate I didn’t like got elected, I thought, “Well, shucks, see you again in four years.” > > But this time, I’m seriously freaked and depressed, I can’t believe that we’re going to have to endure Trump as POTUS. Agree completely. I was not happy Bush won in 2000/2004, but even with him I did not feel this dejected about the outcome. Trump was so incalculably flawed, a naked liar in public who jumped from one mistruth to another, and no one cared, they don’t care if a man lies to their face, because they believe he is with them in some other important areas. Like building the wall, and their hatred of Hillary, you get that with chants of lock her up. Hate won this election, and I guess people Hated Hillary more. Worse still, now that this pathway has lead to victory, I forsee dark days ahead for republicans as they continue to spiral down this path to chase electoral victory. Like knights of the old republic showed us, to be united in hatred is a fragile alliance at best: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/K-pEG1JnDsM/hqdefault.jpg "Kreia's fall") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-pEG1JnDsM) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1271 "2016-11-09T05:16:54Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Great, then Clinton will have done better than Selina Meyer. Yeah, but people are complaining about the polls, but the only place the polls seemed to have gone wrong is in the industrial Midwest. Well, also VA and NC. But that’s far from ALL of them being off as some people seem to think. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1272 "2016-11-09T05:17:03Z")
I don’t know what to think any more. Apparently I live in the Bizarro World. ---
**Author:** ![truthSeeker2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@truthSeeker2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthSeeker2)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1273 "2016-11-09T05:17:16Z")
honesty and truth triumphs over condescending and dishonest opposition and media… ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1274 "2016-11-09T05:17:30Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > You know, in the past, when the presidential candidate I didn’t like got elected, I thought, “Well, shucks, see you again in four years.” > > But this time, I’m seriously freaked and depressed, I can’t believe that we’re going to have to endure Trump as POTUS. My mom basically talked me down with the whole “he didn’t want to be president” thing. You know, when he wanted to make his VP basically act as president. I don’t like Pence, but he’s better than Trump. Well, that and the idea that maybe the Republicans in the Senate won’t be in lock step with him and won’t destroy the filibuster, and that the Supreme Court justices will intentionally hold on as long as they can. So we just get the status quo there. And, of course, what Corry El said about his base being isolationist, meaning he won’t start a nuclear war. And, of course, that we get him voted out ASAP. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1275 "2016-11-09T05:17:47Z")
And our Aussie senior pollies are now calling that Trump will be the new POTUS…and it seems they’re not OVERLY excited by the prospect. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1276 "2016-11-09T05:18:11Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > White people. White people really, really like Trump. > > I don’t get it either. (I am a white person.) No we don’t. Some do, but certainly not all of us. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1277 "2016-11-09T05:18:33Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > The guy was attempting to have hope. Just because you’re probably as upset at the rest of us doesn’t mean we need you rubbing it in. I mean, this guy was on your side. > > This is a very dark time. Other than, ahem, a few outliers, even the Republicans/conservatives on this board thought a Trump presidency would be disastrous. > > The only way I’ve decided I can cope is to pull out of politics altogether–even if it means avoiding the talk shows that I love. Well, that and a whole lot of prayer that we make it through this tribulation. That God will keep us safe. (Unlike most of my other Christian friends, I don’t really believe in the Rapture.) I think there a quite a few Republicans that, while not willing to publicly support Trump, are perfectly will to stand aside and let him do his damage while shrugging their shoulders and saying, “I said I wasn’t going to vote for him, and (for all you know) I didn’t-what more could I possibly have done?” ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1278 "2016-11-09T05:18:50Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > If Trump wins, I blame HRC. She should have had this in the bag. But then, she should have had it in the bag in 2008, too. And she almost lost to Bernie in 2016, too. Face it, she’s a terrible campaigner on a national level. Don’t blame Hillary, blame Democrats for not having a serious candidate worth running. She’s a terrible candidate but the DNC was scared to death to primary against her. ETA I still think she’s going to pull it off. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1279 "2016-11-09T05:19:04Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Because that’s the only plank Trump has in his platform. That and degrading women and the disabled. He’s really an equal opportunity offender. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1280 "2016-11-09T05:19:22Z")
I’m about done. Trump has won. The only thing that gives me a ray of hope is that Trump, from beginning to end, really did do this on his own. He’s his own man. Maybe he’s not as republican as we think he is. I’m willing to give him a chance. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947.md?page=63) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947.md?page=65)