# \* \* \* ! Official 2016 US Presidential Election Day Thread ! \* \* \* **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 7, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947 "2016-11-07T14:05:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 66
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1301 "2016-11-09T05:23:11Z")
> [@drewder](#): > > Well here’s one thing for you’ll to be happy about Sherriff Joe Arpaio lost. That’s great. Seriously, it is. But in the scheme of things, he’s small fry. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1302 "2016-11-09T05:23:43Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > The last numbers I saw showed Trump leading the popular vote nationwide. It seems to me like democracy is working as designed. California hasn’t been counted. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1303 "2016-11-09T05:24:05Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > Don’t ask me, man, I voted for Johnson tonight and Rubio in the primaries, so I never bought anything he was selling. Johnson, who in his last debate when the topic of possible health effects of Pot came up, suddenly clutched his chest, faked a heart attack and rolled all over the floor giggling? Yep-_Your_ hands are clean. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1304 "2016-11-09T05:24:07Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Because on this board a) most of us conservatives do not support Trump, and b) even the few that do know who he is. > > We might actually have to make an effort to recruit real Trump fans, the most intelligent we can find, or else this board will spend the next four years being even less representative than it already is. If Clinton wins the popular vote, then we’re overly-representative of the will of the people suffering under minority rule. Again. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1305 "2016-11-09T05:24:41Z")
Well, I have one interesting thought: Joe Biden’s chances of being President, something he clearly wants, went up a lot. He won’t be much older than Trump, so age won’t be an issue, and he has working class cred, making him really the perfect opponent to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1306 "2016-11-09T05:24:48Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Hint: There are a lot more voters that are living in actual deplorable conditions like trailer parks than there are gay or transgendered people (sometimes those overlap). This is true but is where the twisted genius of wedge politics comes in; issues like transgender rights are not fought tooth and nail by conservative strategists because they care deeply. They’re fought tooth and nail because conservative strategists know that such issues jam the Dems between pragmatism and principle. Pragmatically the Dems know they would be best off throwing the transgendered to the wolves. But Dems keep fighting such issues on principle, and that wedges their base: they lose the socially conservative working class vote but keep the liberal vote. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1307 "2016-11-09T05:24:52Z")
> [@Bumbershoot](#): > > I don’t know what to think any more. Apparently I live in the Bizarro World. Well, the Cubs are World Series Champions…we really should have all seen this one coming… ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1308 "2016-11-09T05:24:57Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I’m about done. Trump has won. > > The only thing that gives me a ray of hope is that Trump, from beginning to end, really did do this on his own. He’s his own man. Maybe he’s not as republican as we think he is. I’m willing to give him a chance. Trump is a third-party candidate running as a Republican. There’s already not a lot of love between him and a number of Republican lawmakers, and given the personalities involved, that isn’t going to improve. We will get to sorta see what would’ve happened if H Ross Perot had won. Except with more wall. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1309 "2016-11-09T05:25:22Z")
I don’t mind in some sense that a message has been sent to the establishment that the people want change. But why Trump as the deliverer of that message? Why not Bernie? Trump is so incredibly undeserving of being president. ---
**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1310 "2016-11-09T05:25:34Z")
Lois Lerner and Hillary are going to be cellmates. And we will finally see Obama’s real birth certificate. 🙂🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1311 "2016-11-09T05:25:39Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > If Trump wins, I blame HRC. She should have had this in the bag. But then, she should have had it in the bag in 2008, too. And she almost lost to Bernie in 2016, too. Face it, she’s a terrible campaigner on a national level. But she would just not get out of the way for someone else to show up. Then again I suppose that to get into the unspeakable torment that it is to run for POTUS you _need_ to be in some way pathologically convinced that _It Is Destiny_ or that you’re on a mission from God like Jake and Elwood. But really… > [@drewder](#): > > Well here’s one thing for you’ll to be happy about Sherriff Joe Arpaio lost. Oh at least let us have that small mercy. Oh, and you know what? People _ **lie** _ to pollsters. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1312 "2016-11-09T05:26:29Z")
The problem with Trump representing change is that when he turns out to be just another liar, who do the people turn to? ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1313 "2016-11-09T05:27:03Z")
Clinton’s election night party, probably the most miserable place on the planet right now. > [@](#): > > Fox News’ Serafin Gomez reports that after people had been seen crying, supporters In the audience are full out sobbing. People have also started leaving although many are still remaining to support their candidate. I’ve excoriated Trump throughout this campaign for ruining the Republican shot at the Presidency. Clearly he knew something that I didn’t know. Love him or hate him (and I hate him) you have to give the guy credit. In the face of overwhelming mockery and ridicule from almost all of the media he stuck to his guns and it’s looking like he may well have pulled it off. ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1314 "2016-11-09T05:27:03Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > The idea of fleeing the country has to at least be going through Clinton’s mind. Before people talked about Obama pardoning her assuming she’d win. That made little sense. Now it might really happen. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1315 "2016-11-09T05:27:20Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The problem with Trump representing change is that when he turns out to be just another liar, who do the people turn to? I dunno. Revolution? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1316 "2016-11-09T05:27:20Z")
Hillary up by 200 votes in NH. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1317 "2016-11-09T05:27:46Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I don’t think it’s racial. I think you folks on the left are missing the anti-globalist backlash. Plenty of people on the the left are against Globalism, protested the TPP and the TTIP. Witness the support Bernie got. Mainstream of both parties were in favour of more global free trade, so don’t blame the left for this. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1318 "2016-11-09T05:27:50Z")
MSNBC is reporting the Canadian Immigration website has crashed. No Joke. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1319 "2016-11-09T05:27:58Z")
I thought I’d feel better after vomiting but I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/1320 "2016-11-09T05:28:00Z")
Do you think that Americans will, within the next 4 to 6 years, feel [Vergangenheitsbewältigung](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergangenheitsbew%C3%A4ltigung)? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947.md?page=65) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947.md?page=67)