# \* \* \* ! Official 2016 US Presidential Election Day Thread ! \* \* \*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 7, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947 "2016-11-07T14:05:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/161 "2016-11-08T22:28:06Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> If Tzigone had wanted to convey that he felt the actions were classless, but didn’t rise to the level of voter intimidation, what words could he have used to get that point across to you?

“I thought that was classless”.

Being classless and intimidating someone are not degrees on a spectrum. They are unrelated concepts. If someone said, “I thought that was classless”, would you infer that there was intimidation going on unless the possibility was excluded?

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/162 "2016-11-08T22:30:20Z")

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Anyone feel better or worse than they did last night based on anything they’ve seen today?

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**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/163 "2016-11-08T22:30:46Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Being classless and intimidating someone are not degrees on a spectrum. They are unrelated concepts.

But laughing and deriding voters while they’re in line is intimidation (IMO), under normal circumstances. It’s only the exceptional around him that keeps it from being that. So yes, I mentioned intimidation because it came to mind, but then specifically said that I wouldn’t call it that because I’m not willing to commit to that statement.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/164 "2016-11-08T22:33:01Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Anyone feel better or worse than they did last night based on anything they’ve seen today?

Better. Hillary has made it to election day healthy, that was my biggest “black swan” worry. And Trump has continually drifted all day in the betting market & implicitly in the financial markets. The markets do get things wrong sometimes, but in general I trust the weight of money as an aggregator of information. Trump is down to 14% on Betfair, financial market rally has followed through.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/165 "2016-11-08T22:35:06Z")

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> [@Tzigone](#):
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> But laughing and deriding voters while they’re in line is intimidation (IMO), under normal circumstances. It’s only the exceptional around him that keeps it from being that. So yes, I mentioned intimidation because it came to mind, but then specifically said that I wouldn’t call it that because I’m not willing to commit to that statement.

Fair enough, I apologize, I was pointlessly nitpicking. I can’t believe how stressed and nervous I feel right now.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/166 "2016-11-08T22:38:39Z")

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Look, these people laughing were New Yorkers, who have had to put up with The Donald decades before the rest of the country. The deserve the last laugh.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/167 "2016-11-08T22:39:49Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I vote for PBS. (As long as they keep David Brooks out of there tonight.)

Well if you just want to hear Democrats, why not just watch MSNBC? 😉

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/168 "2016-11-08T22:48:00Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Anyone feel better or worse than they did last night based on anything they’ve seen today?

I’m feeling good, but it’s been a couple of days in the making.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/169 "2016-11-08T22:48:59Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Better. Hillary has made it to election day healthy, that was my biggest “black swan” worry. And Trump has continually drifted all day in the betting market & implicitly in the financial markets. The markets do get things wrong sometimes, but in general I trust the weight of money as an aggregator of information. Trump is down to 14% on Betfair, financial market rally has followed through.

I really think this is not good thinking. The financial markets aren’t all only focussed on the election - they’re also busy realizing they got fooled by bullshit promises of an OPEC agreement. And their whole thing is risk and stability; how many elections offer this obvious level of who is the risk and who is stable? Bettors lay money on longshots not necessarily because they think it’ll happen but because the payoff is worth the risk. There’s no reason to think those guys’ opinions are better than direct polls of voters.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/170 "2016-11-08T22:50:05Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Sure, but then Trump’s only defect is that he’s a narcissistic racist misogynistic sociopathic orange liar.

That’s six defects. Nicole wins.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/171 "2016-11-08T22:59:57Z")

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Indiana in a minute. We’re almost there.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/172 "2016-11-08T23:04:06Z")

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PredictIt odds have it at Hillary with 322, with ME-2 single EV as a tossup. And NC as close to tossup, but leaning Hillary. FL is close to 80 with bettors, and if FL is called early, then we know that it’s probably over.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/173 "2016-11-08T23:06:50Z")

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I’m dying to hear Florida and Pennsylvania calls. Come on, it’s 7 after the hour already!!! 😃

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/174 "2016-11-08T23:07:58Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> I’m dying to hear Florida and Pennsylvania calls. Come on, it’s 7 after the hour already!!! 😃

You have TWO HOURS to wait!

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/175 "2016-11-08T23:08:23Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I was disappointed when I moved to Chicago and found out they don’t do stickers. This year though they gave out [wristbands.](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-election-voting-wristbands-met-20161007-story.html)

All we get in my county is the tear-off strip on the bottom of the ballot with the ballot number on it. We vote by filling out paper ballots with a pen; then putting the paper ballots in a big metal box.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/176 "2016-11-08T23:10:12Z")

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Goddamn… just hours away.

Got 8 people to the polls today, including one woman who thought she had voted online because of a FB ad. The Bexar County Deputy Commissioner for Elections was there when I took the call and he wrote down her name/number for further investigation.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/177 "2016-11-08T23:11:07Z")

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The longer it takes to call Indiana and Kentucky for Trump, the better. I assume they won’t make any call until after 7 Eastern.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/178 "2016-11-08T23:15:17Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> You have TWO HOURS to wait!

Meh. They can guess. 😉 Either way, I think Hillary is getting Florida, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and Nevada. [fingers crossed]

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/179 "2016-11-08T23:17:18Z")

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Good luck guys!

“The whole world is watching! The whole world is watching!”

Do us proud!

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-2016-us-presidential-election-day-thread/770947/180 "2016-11-08T23:19:21Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Good luck guys!
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> “The whole world is watching! The whole world is watching!”
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> Do us proud!

Too late for that.

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