# OFFICIAL Third Debate 10/19/16 Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 19, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995 "2016-10-19T01:00:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/21 "2016-10-19T03:59:48Z")
> [@Lancia](#): > > …I have this growing fear that Donald will act… normal. Maybe even better than normal, and act presidential. He’ll apologize for… well, everything, and say something—nay, lots of things—that sounds (for him) smart and rather forward-thinking. … I very seriously doubt it mainly because of how far behind he is. That would have been an excellent strategy all along, the equal of consistently getting four to six yards a play, keeping control of the ball, and getting first downs. But he’s now the equal of being down 17 and the two minute warning just went off. He has no chance of winning by getting a few first downs in a row. He’s going to throw for touchdowns. For her sake though she’s not going to try to just run out the clock but to minimally keep control of the ball as much as possible, get a few first downs, and maybe try to force a few fumbles and interceptions all the while trying hard to not drop the ball herself. (I was going to make baseball analogies, but tonight’s Cub’s game …) ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/22 "2016-10-19T04:13:24Z")
> [@Junior\_Spaceman](#): > > This strikes me as one of the most bewildering and worst directed stunts in political history. I imagine he failed to dig up one of her disgruntled high school boyfriends, which was presumably his Plan A. I think he half-remembered the[scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llQYRlu1wWw)in _Godfather II_ where Michael Corleone brings Frankie Pentangeli’s brother to the hearings so Frankie won’t testify, but completely failed to understand how it was supposed to work. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/23 "2016-10-19T05:34:00Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > So for his reality TV stunt this time, Trump is bringing Obama’s half-brother to the debate. To throw Hillary off her game? He does know that Obama is not the candidate, right? I really don’t get this one. This is pathetic. Obama’s half-brother will have no impact on Hillary whatsoever. If this is the best dirty trick Trump has left, he has run out of steam. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/24 "2016-10-19T09:01:52Z")
> [@Lancia](#): > > Because it’s part of his long con? Not smart enough for that, as far as I can tell. Besides, if the reports of him inviting the Obama brother and Benghazi mother are true, that alone indicates, IMO, that he’s going the direct opposite of what you’re suggesting. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/25 "2016-10-19T09:35:34Z")
The entrance of the families has been changed so that they never cross each others’ paths and no photo-ops or handshaking occurs. This is in response to Trump’s previous attempt to ambush the Clintons with Paula Jones et al. > **[At Previous Debates, Melania Trump and Bill Clinton Shook Hands. Not Anymore....](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/19/us/politics/melania-trump-bill-clinton.html)** > > In response to a Trump campaign plan at the last debate to parade women who accused Mr. Clinton of sexual assault into the hall, the Clinton campaign has gained approval to change entry protocol. The Times also says that Trump is doing debate prep with Chris Christie and plans to attack Clinton’s health. They go on to say that Clinton didn’t flinch but was rattled by Trump’s antics at the last debate. Because it wouldn’t be fair if you don’t find a way to slam Hillary in all this. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/26 "2016-10-19T10:09:48Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > The entrance of the families has been changed so that they never cross each others’ paths and no photo-ops or handshaking occurs. This is in response to Trump’s previous attempt to ambush the Clintons with Paula Jones et al. > > [http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/19/us/politics/melania-trump-bill-clinton.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/19/us/politics/melania-trump-bill-clinton.html) > > The Times also says that Trump is doing debate prep with Chris Christie and plans to attack Clinton’s health. > > They go on to say that Clinton didn’t flinch but was rattled by Trump’s antics at the last debate. Because it wouldn’t be fair if you don’t find a way to slam Hillary in all this. If he brings up her health, she should drop and do ten push-ups, turn to him and say “can YOU do that?” ---
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/27 "2016-10-19T10:41:03Z")
Debt and entitlements, immigration, the economy, the Supreme Court, foreign hot spots and the candidates’ fitness to be president. This should be a 6 inch putt for Clinton. I expect Chris Wallace to do most of the heavy lifting. I expect Trump to be a kraken. I said in August he would get worse and worse every day and with a couple of days exception, that’s what has happened. Because his base are addicts. His second debate performance was worse than the first, and there’s no reason to believe this one won’t be even worse. He will ask Clinton what she has to say to the Benghazi mother. I’m sure she’s ready. She should just stay cool, don’t throw the first zing, counter-zing instead. Fitness to be president? This is going to be like a prosecutor’s closing argument in the death penalty phase. Three weeks left of Trump swirling down the toilet. I still expect the press to have to pull their reporters from his rallies at some point. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/28 "2016-10-19T10:59:36Z")
He’s still going after the health issue? Not only has she looked perfectly fine for the last month, especially in the debates, why can’t she just bring up the sniffles? ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/29 "2016-10-19T11:08:43Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > I just want to know what the drinking words are this time. 😛 > > Suggestions: > > Trump: ISIS, Lie, Email. > > Clinton: Michele Obama, Stronger Together, Diversity. The time zone difference (I’m in Jakarta, Indonesia) pisses me off to no end. I really need to turn debate watching into a drinking game, but I’m not going to drink at 9 o’clock in the morning. **Lancia** , your relatives are nuts - how can they want to schedule ANYTHING except watching the debate? My husband was actually asked to participate in a conference call during the debate (by someone from USAID, of all places). I told him he should tell them to shove off (although we’re pretty sure it was an accident and the call is being rescheduled). Because my husband has a heavy travel schedule and was in Cambodia and Thailand during debates 1 and 2, I had to watch them all alone, practically curled up into a fetal position, rocking and moaning with fear over the outcome. FINALLY for this third debate he is in town, and I will have company. I will be clutching his arm for support throughout. He’ll probably have bruises in the shape of my fingers by the end. ---
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/30 "2016-10-19T11:47:05Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > I just want to know what the drinking words are this time. 😛 Trump: Quid pro quo, pay for play, corrupt, incompetent, greatest, best, believe me. Clinton: Unfit ---
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/31 "2016-10-19T12:06:34Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I think he half-remembered the[scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llQYRlu1wWw)in _Godfather II_ where Michael Corleone brings Frankie Pentangeli’s brother to the hearings so Frankie won’t testify, but completely failed to understand how it was supposed to work. “It was between the brothers, Kay…I mean, the half-brother and the candidate who is not related to him in any way.” ---
**Author:** ![1iLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/1ileft/32/4114_2.png) [@1iLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1iLeft)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/32 "2016-10-19T12:30:30Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > He’s still going after the health issue? Not only has she looked perfectly fine for the last month, especially in the debates, why can’t she just bring up the sniffles? Whining causes sniffling. Whining and sniffling are what children do - not presidents. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/33 "2016-10-19T12:34:18Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > My fellow moderator Tom and I discussed the recent unpleasantness about the threads about the debates and decided one official one would be a good idea. That doesn’t mean you can’t start your own on side issues and such, but this is a good place to start. Let’s see that there’s no more hard feelings, shall we? Cool. But I’m thinking at 9:00 I could start four threads, one for discussing separately each candidate’s statements, one for discussing the moderator, and one for audience reaction discussion only. Make sense? (I kid! I kid!) If Clinton is attacked for her health, I’d like her to pause before her answer. Take a big sniff. Then say that she’s doing just fine. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/34 "2016-10-19T12:52:49Z")
Maybe be injecting herself with insulin or something as a camera cuts to her. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/35 "2016-10-19T13:08:09Z")
> [@ThisIsTheEnd](#): > > I expect Trump to be a kraken. I said in August he would get worse and worse every day and with a couple of days exception, that’s what has happened. Because his base are addicts. If he had any self control at all he’d realize that being decent and Presidential are his only chance, so of course he won’t do that. My expectation is that his behaviour tonight will be of the sort completely unbecoming of an American presidential candidate. He will set a bar of behavior no future candidate has any chance of limbo-ing under. I’d say it’s 50-50 he openly refers to Clinton as a murderer and 50-50 he accuses her of specific murders, like Vince Foster or Seth Rich. He will directly accuse her of being responsible for the Pulse nightclub attack, or some other terrorist attack. He behavior will make his first two performances look positively gentlemanly, like back in the good old days of 2012 and every previous debate where the candidates acted like decent human beings and treated each other with a modicum of respect. > [@](#): > > His second debate performance was worse than the first, and there’s no reason to believe this one won’t be even worse. He was much worse in the first debate by the only measure that matters: the polls. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/36 "2016-10-19T13:25:47Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Maybe be injecting herself with insulin or something as a camera cuts to her. I could definitely see them doing this in the SNL skit. ---
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/37 "2016-10-19T13:34:15Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > He was much worse in the first debate by the only measure that matters: the polls. There’s no polls that asked which performance was worse. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/38 "2016-10-19T13:46:22Z")
I made my decision long ago, so frankly (and I really do feel ashamed of this) my only interest in the upcoming travesty is in seeing to what degree of boorishness Mr. Trump descends. My guess is that we haven’t seen anywhere near bottom yet. Predix: Trump’s very first response, and all thereafter, include the word “rigged”; Trump repeats his vow to have a special prosecutor investigate all things Clinton and calls Mrs. Clinton “Crooked Hillary” to her face; Trump name-checks Benghazi Mom, who will shout out “you lie!” at Hillary at some opportune moment. Bonus points if Trump makes a menacing movement or gesture of some kind that causes the Secret Service to rush the stage. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/39 "2016-10-19T13:56:13Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I made my decision long ago, so frankly (and I really do feel ashamed of this) my only interest in the upcoming travesty is in seeing to what degree of boorishness Mr. Trump descends. My guess is that we haven’t seen anywhere near bottom yet. Pretty much my sentiments exactly. I actually have a social function tonight, so I’ll have to record the debate. Not really sure I’ll have the energy to watch it after all the snippets are out there, though. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/40 "2016-10-19T14:54:27Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > He’s still going after the health issue? Of course! How else is he supposed to remind everyone that Hillary is a weak and frail … person, who doesn’t look like a president. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995.md?page=3)