# OFFICIAL Third Debate 10/19/16 Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 19, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995 "2016-10-19T01:00:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/41 "2016-10-19T15:28:32Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I made my decision long ago, so frankly (and I really do feel ashamed of this) my only interest in the upcoming travesty is in seeing to what degree of boorishness Mr. Trump descends. My guess is that we haven’t seen anywhere near bottom yet.
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> Predix: Trump’s very first response, and all thereafter, include the word “rigged”; Trump repeats his vow to have a special prosecutor investigate all things Clinton and calls Mrs. Clinton “Crooked Hillary” to her face; Trump name-checks Benghazi Mom, who will shout out “you lie!” at Hillary at some opportune moment.

I agree. I think his theme tonight is how it’s all rigged, how unfair everything is, and Hillary is in cahoots with some very bad people who are working very hard against America. “Rigged” and “crooked” and “criminal” will be his talking points.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/42 "2016-10-19T15:54:47Z")

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I was OOTC on vacation and was able to avoid the news for the most part. It was two blissful weeks with barely a mention of Trump.

Now I’m back for 48 hours and it’s all Trump, all the time.

I’m so mentally exhausted of that ill-tempered orange buffoon. I’d make a deal with the devil if I could just see that walking aneurysm have a near fatal stroke right there on the debate stage. Near fatal and something that causes him to lose the power of speech and ability to tweet. Incontinence would be a nice touch as well.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/43 "2016-10-19T16:11:42Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> How to watch on Youtube:
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> [Listing of livestreams](https://youtube.googleblog.com/2016/10/tune-in-to-final-presidential-debate.html)
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> [Washington Post Livestream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPFJObbOZX0)  
> [C-Span Livestream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANT_ZBhpvtw)

Apparently you can [watch on Twitter](https://twitter.com/i/live/778347749217406976) too.

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**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/44 "2016-10-19T16:41:07Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Maybe be injecting herself with insulin or something as a camera cuts to her.

I don’t believe she is diabetic, so that would have a good chance of killing her.

Why do you hate America?

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**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/45 "2016-10-19T16:53:48Z")

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> [@Junior\_Spaceman](#):
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> This strikes me as one of the most bewildering and worst directed stunts in political history. I imagine he failed to dig up one of her disgruntled high school boyfriends, which was presumably his Plan A.

In addition to Malik Obama, Trump is allegedly inviting [one or more surprise guests](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/19/what_horrifying_stunts_will_trump_pull_at_tonight_s_debate.html) from the Clintons’ past (that are SO SHOCKING they can’t even tell us who they are in advance, apparently). If you were concerned that Trump was going to show up tonight to do a reasonable facsimile of a statesman, don’t be.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/46 "2016-10-19T16:59:15Z")

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I want him to whip it out! “Behold, the Hammer of Thor! Look upon my dork, ye mighty, and despair!”

Then Hillary says “Gosh, Donald, I had no idea you were Japanese!”

Then maybe the House is in play…

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/47 "2016-10-19T17:20:44Z")

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I usually hate it in football, but in this case, I think Clinton goes to the prevent defense.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/48 "2016-10-19T17:36:18Z")

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Here’s CNN on the state of play in Nevada: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/nevada-2016-election-results/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/nevada-2016-election-results/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/49 "2016-10-19T19:18:41Z")

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He invited Obama’s half-brother? what frackin planet is this guy from that he thinks a half-brother (who can’t vote) in an audience is going to shake HRC? Really??

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/50 "2016-10-19T19:23:19Z")

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Is this the election when Donald Trump finally calls her a \*itch on live TV?

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**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/51 "2016-10-19T19:24:51Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Is this the election when Donald Trump finally calls her a \*itch on live TV?

I both wish he does, and hope he doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/52 "2016-10-19T19:25:06Z")

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> [@Dob](#):
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> He invited Obama’s half-brother? what frackin planet is this guy from that he thinks a half-brother (who can’t vote) in an audience is going to shake HRC? Really??

Actually, he can. He’s a citizen.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/53 "2016-10-19T19:25:07Z")

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Picture me as a dog because a washing machine.

“Oh, please…”

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/54 "2016-10-19T19:26:25Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I made my decision long ago, so frankly (and I really do feel ashamed of this) my only interest in the upcoming travesty is in seeing to what degree of boorishness Mr. Trump descends. My guess is that we haven’t seen anywhere near bottom yet.
> 
> Predix: Trump’s very first response, and all thereafter, include the word “rigged”; Trump repeats his vow to have a special prosecutor investigate all things Clinton and calls Mrs. Clinton “Crooked Hillary” to her face; Trump name-checks Benghazi Mom, who will shout out “you lie!” at Hillary at some opportune moment.
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> Bonus points if Trump makes a menacing movement or gesture of some kind that causes the Secret Service to rush the stage.

I definitely expect Trump and Roger Stone to let Bengazi mom off her leash tonight. Sorry but I just can’t feel much sympathy for someone who knowingly allows themselves and their son’s death to be used as a political ploy. I’m sure I’d be angry if I felt like my government didn’t do enough to protect my loved on but this is just blind rage and shameless grandstanding, and frankly, it’s sick. I think she needs to be on meds.

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**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/55 "2016-10-19T19:27:52Z")

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> [@Dob](#):
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> He invited Obama’s half-brother? what frackin planet is this guy from that he thinks a half-brother (who can’t vote) in an audience is going to shake HRC? Really??

Actually, Malik Obama is a naturalized US citizen and registered to vote in (IIRC) Maryland. This doesn’t undercut your main point though; how someone related to the President is supposed to throw HRC off her game is unclear.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/56 "2016-10-19T19:29:21Z")

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> [@Dob](#):
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> He invited Obama’s half-brother? what frackin planet is this guy from that he thinks a half-brother (who can’t vote) in an audience is going to shake HRC? Really??

People like Trump project. Sociopaths believe every else is a sociopath; narcissists believe everyone else is a narcissist. People who lack empathy - by definition - have trouble understanding that other people might think or feel differently.

See, this kind of dumb stunt would really bother Donald Trump. If Clinton brought a bunch of the women accusing him of assault, or brought Billy Bush wearing a T-shirt saying YOU GOT ME FIRED, that would piss him off. He’d would be furious at someone doing that to him, and it would rattle him. _Therefore, Trump believes it would rattle Clinton,_ and would rattle anyone. How HE reacts must be how everyone should react.

The idea that Clinton probably thinks it’s a sad joke, and will not much think of it again, is something he quite literally can’t understand.

Incidentally, I agree Patricia Smith - whom I have no problem with, the poor woman is overcome with grief and it can make you vulnerable - has probably been coached to yell on cue. I am sure Trump is hoping she will be escorted out by security and has his bobos ready to film it. It’s so much easier when someone else is nailed to the cross for you.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/57 "2016-10-19T19:32:29Z")

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> [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](#):
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> Actually, Malik Obama is a naturalized US citizen and registered to vote in (IIRC) Maryland. This doesn’t undercut your main point though; how someone related to the President is supposed to throw HRC off her game is unclear.

Maybe Trump thinks that since something similar would throw him off, doing it to her will throw her off.

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**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/58 "2016-10-19T19:39:06Z")

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> [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](#):
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> Actually, Malik Obama is a naturalized US citizen and registered to vote in (IIRC) Maryland. This doesn’t undercut your main point though; how someone related to the President is supposed to throw HRC off her game is unclear.

Because Obama’s half-brother is Kenyan-born and not supporting Obama’s candidate.

We’re begging the question, because bringing in Obama’s Kenyan-born half brother isn’t about throwing Hillary off her game, inasmuch as it’s about forcing the media to even discuss it and make people wonder why the POTUS has a Kenyan-born sibling and why said sibling isn’t even voting for Obama’s candidate.  
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**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/59 "2016-10-19T19:40:26Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Maybe Trump thinks that since something similar would throw him off, doing it to her will throw her off.

Probably so. Anyway, the rumor mill is suggesting that Trump’s “mystery guest” is [Danney Williams](https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/788505939745775618), a man who claims to be Bill Clinton’s illegitimate son (despite a paternity test showing he is not). Admittedly this is something I saw on the Daily Kos as reported by some guy on Twitter, so take that with a big 'ol pile of salt.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/60 "2016-10-19T19:42:48Z")

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Tonight wil be a sober debate night for me. Ill be white knuckiln’ it, because I am sick.

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