# OFFICIAL Third Debate 10/19/16 Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 19, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995 "2016-10-19T01:00:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/681 "2016-10-20T03:07:54Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Both candidates dodged important questions. Trump wouldn’t fully commit (either way) to securing Iraq after Mosul is freed. Hillary was against it. That scares me. I hope she’ll at least maintain the few troops we have there now. She wasn’t clear. She should have been clear that Iraq can’t be abandoned totally. I don’t think most Americans have a heartfelt concern with Iraq, but I think she accomplished her task by emphatically saying that she would not support American forces occupying Iraq again. There are just north of 5,000 troops there now, mainly in advisory and combat support roles. But they’re only there with the consent of the Government of Iraq. I’m surprised the lack of any mention on the part of Hillary with the Government of Iraq’s refusal to approve any SOFA that led to the U.S. withdrawal. > [@](#): > > Hillary dodged the open borders question. That is very concerning. Look at what open borders are doing to the EU. They are being flooded. Open borders was a key factor in Brexit. Those are two different things. The EU does not have open borders externally with non-EU countries that are not a part of the Schengen zone. The refugee issue would exist with or without Schengen or the EU. Whether the Schengen zone has exacerbated the refugee crisis is another question that is more complex. The EU does have open borders internally for countries that are a part of Schengen, but the UK is not a part of that and does not have open borders. The dispute with immigration in the Brexit vote was about the EU (and other European free trade agreement) requirements that EU citizens can freely travel and work in any EU country. It was not a border issue. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/682 "2016-10-20T03:08:23Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > Trumpty Dumpty was a sweaty, incoherent mess. He lost this one. > > The puppet exchange was classic Donald fumbling and is worth re-watching. > > Trump:“No puppet! No puppet. You’re the puppet! No, you’re the puppet.” Gulps water. Adjusts microphone. Makes a weird can-you-believe-this face. All of this happens in 30 seconds. It kind of ruins it for the good folks over at Bad Lip Reading, though. How can they possibly top the things Trump actually said? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/683 "2016-10-20T03:08:43Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Donald, muttering “wrong” into your mic repeatedly is not an argument. wrong. He has the best arguments. Magnificent arguments. His arguments are so great you’ll have to anchor your eyeballs. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/684 "2016-10-20T03:09:28Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Trump’s dumbest moment, to me, might have been about three-quarters through, when he (unprovoked) suggested most of many Syrian refugees are ISIS symoathizers. Many of them are ISIS victims, you prick! That was one of his best moves of the night. People respond to fear, and most Americans know little about Syria, its people, or the refugee vetting process. His dumbest moment was refusing to accept the election results, because that’s what’s going to be repeated again and again, and it makes him sound, frankly, like he’s not a patriot. That doesn’t play well with anyone except very hardcore conspiracy theorists, and they don’t win you elections. And it makes him sound like a whiny baby, which plays well with absolutely no one in the entire world. Everyone hates a whiner. Even other whiners. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/685 "2016-10-20T03:09:54Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > CNN: “you can’t polish this turd”. Did someone really say that? Was it someone employed by CNN or merely a guest or person on the street or something? ETA: > [@JKellyMap](#): > > Van Jones rocks. Ok… who is Van Jones? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/686 "2016-10-20T03:10:18Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > CNN: “you can’t polish this turd”. Fact Check: Van Jones said you can’t polish any turd. We rate this statement [false.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI&app=desktop) ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/687 "2016-10-20T03:10:42Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Did someone really say that? Was it someone employed by CNN or merely a guest or person on the street or something? Van Jones. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/688 "2016-10-20T03:12:55Z")
> [@skdo23](#): > > No, my first name ain’t baby, it’s Hillary. Madame President, if you’re nasty. This is brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/689 "2016-10-20T03:13:07Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Fact Check: Van Jones said you can’t polish any turd. We rate this statement [false.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI&app=desktop) 😃 I don’t watch CNN very often…is it always this much of a circus? ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/690 "2016-10-20T03:13:53Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > 😃 > > I don’t watch CNN very often…is it always this much of a circus? All 24 hour news channels are now. What have you been watching? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/691 "2016-10-20T03:13:54Z")
True, RickyJay. That “we’ll see” comment solidified the hard-core 27% of voters he’s had all along, but with it he lost another 1% of the undecideds. 538 Polls Only should hit that statistical ceiling of 91% or 92% for Hillary in about a week. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/692 "2016-10-20T03:13:55Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > NYT headline [“Trump Won’t Say if He Will Accept Election Results”](http://www.nytimes.com/). And WSJ: “Trump Won’t Commit to Accepting Vote if He Loses” Fox’s lede too. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/693 "2016-10-20T03:14:00Z")
How soon does the CNN post debate poll come out? ---
**Author:** ![harmonicamoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@harmonicamoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmonicamoon)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/694 "2016-10-20T03:15:00Z")
It was obvious that Chris Wallace couldn’t control the kids. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/695 "2016-10-20T03:15:11Z")
> [@YogSothoth](#): > > Trump runs off in a black SUV, Clinton stays to shake hands. Good visual He saw the “Bay-Shit” signal… ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/696 "2016-10-20T03:15:22Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > 😃 > > I don’t watch CNN very often…is it always this much of a circus? When they have this Trump vs Hillary roundtables like after a debate? Most definitely. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/697 "2016-10-20T03:16:30Z")
> [@leftfield6](#): > > All 24 hour news channels are now. What have you been watching? 😛 I typically avoid cable news…I read my news online. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/698 "2016-10-20T03:16:39Z")
> [@harmonicamoon](#): > > It was obvious that Chris Wallace couldn’t control the kids. Can’t believe a FOX Mod actually gave Drumpfelstiltskin a talking to… ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/699 "2016-10-20T03:16:46Z")
> [@skdo23](#): > > No, my first name ain’t baby, it’s Hillary. Madame President, if you’re nasty. > [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I wish she had said, “That’s Ms. Clinton, if you’re nasty” and then dropped the mic. She would have won with over 90% of the popular vote if she had done that and then just walked off the stage. It would have been the greatest dis in all of recorded history. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/700 "2016-10-20T03:17:11Z")
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