# OFFICIAL Third Debate 10/19/16 Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 19, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995 "2016-10-19T01:00:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/701 "2016-10-20T03:17:40Z")

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> [@yellowjacketcoder](#):
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> Possible drinking game: Drink when a candidate references their own policy in a way related to the question asked.
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> I think I should pregame as I might only get one beer otherwise 😕

If #Wrong! was a drinking game, no one here would be sober enough to drive right about now…

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/702 "2016-10-20T03:18:40Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Hilary in white - a _good_ witch. 🙂

If Hillary in white is The Good Witch, I’d rather America be inside Her bubble than Trumps.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/703 "2016-10-20T03:19:21Z")

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> [@harmonicamoon](#):
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> It was obvious that Chris Wallace couldn’t control the kids.

Beyond a microphone kill-switch he did as well as anyone could hope for.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/704 "2016-10-20T03:19:31Z")

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Van Jones is an awesome lawyer, activist, organizer, and thinker. Well into a successful and important career, he worked for the Obama administration for a year, then was sadly pushed out as part of the fruitless appeasements to Republican critics.

Among other highlights during the CNN post-debate discussion, Jones vociferously and eloquently attacked Trump for his lack of patriotism (in refusing to express faith in the electoral process).

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/705 "2016-10-20T03:20:22Z")

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Kellyann Conway spinning on MSNBC post debate does not look like she’s had any sleep at all

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/706 "2016-10-20T03:20:33Z")

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Five Nasal Wrongs…!  
Four interruptions  
Three Moderator talking to’s  
Two changed subjects he wouldn’t answer…  
And a Nose Pick on National TV!!!

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/707 "2016-10-20T03:20:41Z")

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The Boston Globe headline right now:

[Trump won’t commit to accepting election results](http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2016/10/19/debate/8yLtnmKMYdHg4hQYnRkQFP/story.html)

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/708 "2016-10-20T03:20:49Z")

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I have a poor track record with this (I said Trump won the first debate, and the second was a draw) but I thought Hillary absolutely trounced Trump in this debate. He simply did nothing he needed to do to change the direction of the race. The same accusations of Hillary, Bush II, Clinton (and now Reagan) being a disaster and making bad deals, and how he will Make America Great Again, and scowling, sniffing, and insulting. Hillary was mostly positive, and if I wasn’t a conservative, she would have won my vote.

Does he only surround himself with yes men or is he simply incapable of taking advice?

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/709 "2016-10-20T03:21:13Z")

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The comments from post-debate viewers calling into C-SPAN are just painful.

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/710 "2016-10-20T03:21:45Z")

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> [@YogSothoth](#):
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> Kellyann Conway spinning on MSNBC post debate does not look like she’s had any sleep at all

She looks like she has been held hostage for months in a horrible setting.

Oh wait, she has.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/711 "2016-10-20T03:22:15Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Does he only surround himself with yes men or is he simply incapable of taking advice?

The second comes from the first.

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/712 "2016-10-20T03:24:48Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Fact Check: Van Jones said you can’t polish any turd. We rate this statement [false.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI&app=desktop)

No, Van Jones claimed you couldn’t polish that _specific_ turd. It was Anderson Cooper who pointed out that you couldn’t polish _any_ turd, really.

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/713 "2016-10-20T03:24:57Z")

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I should have added that Jones is perhaps best known for his urban green ideas and activism – things like incentivizing environmentally friendly product manufacturing, construction, and urban agriculture, in ways that also help the underemployed, people of color, and victims of environmental injustice.

(Sorry for the hijack…but someone did ask).

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/714 "2016-10-20T03:27:13Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> ETA:  
> Ok… who is Van Jones?

Wiki describes him as a commentator who contributes to CNN…he also has a background as an activist.

One of the protestors seems to be having trouble controlling his sign.

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/715 "2016-10-20T03:27:42Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> It’s come to this: The next president of the United States is debating the comment section of your local newspaper.

:D. I think it was George Burns who said “It’s too bad all the people who know how run the country are busy driving taxi cabs and cutting hair.” Well now one of them is finally running for president!

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/716 "2016-10-20T03:28:00Z")

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Even Foxnews is running the unwillingness to accept the results as their lead story. I’d say I was impressed, but it probably has more to do with the hint that [trumptv](http://theweek.com/speedreads/656383/trump-launched-trump-tv-everyone-watching-debate) is now their competitor.

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/717 "2016-10-20T03:28:52Z")

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George Takei tweets: I hear the bathrooms in Trump Tower are being relabeled “Bad Hombres” and “Nasty Women.”

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/718 "2016-10-20T03:29:08Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> :D. I think it was George Burns who said “It’s too bad all the people who know how run the country are busy driving taxi cabs and cutting hair.” Well now one of them is finally running for president!

Trump knows _nothing_ about cutting hair.

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/719 "2016-10-20T03:29:19Z")

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> [@YogSothoth](#):
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> He looks like a coherent human being, so by the curve he’s being graded on, he’ll be judged competent. He’s even looking less orange tonight

I did notice the less orange appearance first thing.

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/720 "2016-10-20T03:30:49Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> And WSJ: “Trump Won’t Commit to Accepting Vote if He Loses”
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> Fox’s lede too.

It’s the headline on every news site.

It’ll fire up his base and piss off everyone else (and a few members of his base.) A disastrous comment in what was otherwise his best debate performance.

As others have pointed out, even without it he didn’t do enough because fighting Clinton to a tie isn’t good enough when you’re seven points behind with 20 days to go. But that alone lost him a point in the polls. Stick a fork in him.

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