# OFFICIAL Third Debate 10/19/16 Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 19, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995 "2016-10-19T01:00:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/841 "2016-10-20T16:43:46Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > It’s clear he has the emotional regulation capacity of a 12 year old boy. I really think this is just a massive game of toy soldiers to him. He’s intentionally stirring shit up but he lacks the maturity to fully understand the consequences. You’re giving him too much credit. “_You’re_ a puppet.” ---
**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/842 "2016-10-20T16:46:39Z")
> [@AngelSoft](#): > > So he didn’t double down on the drug test huh? What the hell was the point of even suggesting that outside of just riling up his supporters? I doubt he even remembers saying it. He seems to just toss out whatever crosses what passes for his mind at the moment and then moves on to the next. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/843 "2016-10-20T16:46:43Z")
Damn this thread is moving fast! [QUOTE=Onomatopoeia] My only concern with him not conceding is how much it riles up his base and in what form is that riling ultimately expressed. [/QUOTE] I think if the election were closer, it would be more of an issue. But Trump is getting absolutely trounced. It’s a stretch to imply that alllll of these polls are way off base and then somehow the election is rigged when it accurately reflects the poll numbers. I think even Trump’s supporters know that is ridiculous. They will probably settle with ‘‘he lost because the media was biased against him.’’ Probably. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/844 "2016-10-20T16:46:52Z")
I think we can put Trump solidly in the Chaotic Evil grouping now. ---
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/845 "2016-10-20T16:47:58Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You’re giving him too much credit. “_You’re_ a puppet.” He probably even spelled “you’re” wrong when he said it. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/846 "2016-10-20T16:54:00Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > IIRC, Chris Matthews, er, Wallace mentioned in his opening remarks that both campaigns were not given the questions in advance. But one them listened to the campaign people who were smart enough to predict what the questions would be and prepared. I imagine that person had prepared answers for a lot of questions that were not asked. This is SOP for a debate, isn’t it? Didn’t Trump ever watch The West Wing? ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/847 "2016-10-20T16:54:12Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I think each debating candidate should be required to establish an escrow account with, say, $5 million in it. For each second during which they interrupt the other candidate, or run over their allotted time with an answer, $10,000 goes to the _other_ candidate’s campaign. That might force some better behavior. “You’re just biassed against me, and deliberately cheating so you can fund that lot from my escrow account. And how much are they paying you in commission?” ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/848 "2016-10-20T16:54:23Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > They will probably settle with ‘‘he lost because the media was biased against him.’’ > > Probably. Damn Reality and its Liberal Bias! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/849 "2016-10-20T17:13:58Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > He’s going to play the Washington Generals to Hillary’s Harlem Globetrotters. We know the result, we don’t yet know the score. Even the Generals won once, after the Globetrotters got careless. Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/850 "2016-10-20T17:16:06Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > The only reason Trump thinks the election could be rigged is his own narcissistic personality disorder that looks to blame anyone else for his own problems. I’ve come to the conclusion that the reason Trump thinks that the election will be rigged is that he wants to rig it himself. He’s projecting again. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/851 "2016-10-20T17:22:10Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > That Fox News has been in The Democrats’ pockets for so long, who can say? :smack: Thread Win! Also, I may have to print a retraction: [spoiler] That Kinks song that I listed for HRC to see and hear was supposed to be this [Lyrics Version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcQ-tNFQleI). You see, She Actually Reads! Words and Text just seem to bounce off of Drumpf…[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/852 "2016-10-20T17:24:08Z")
Forgive me if this has been discussed before, but in the 2 debates in which I can remember what HRC wore, she did not have a flag pin. Wondering why she made that choice, as in past elections it was commented on. I haven’t searched, but haven’t seen any mention in the news either. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/853 "2016-10-20T17:24:47Z")
> [@control-z](#): > > Trump certainly did better, more substance, less asides, less rambling, but just as many unsubstantiated claims. All he had to say about the election outcome was something like “If I have evidence that fraud has occurred then I will use any available legal avenues to uncover that fraud.” If Trump could make reasonable statements like that, he wouldn’t be Trump. Given his well-established record for filing lawsuits (almost 2000) in his business dealings, I’d be astonished if he _didn’t_ file numerous legal challenges following his loss. Heck, even if he _wins_, I can picture him filing lawsuits against everybody he can think of. Instead, he’s being coy, hinting that violence would be okay with him though not in a way that might make him responsible for it. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/854 "2016-10-20T17:31:29Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Instead, he’s being coy, hinting that violence would be okay with him though not in a way that might make him responsible for it. Where exactly does that cross the line into illegal territory? When I think of things he’s said to violent supporters at his rallies, it seems obvious to me he’s encouraging violence. But what’s the difference between encouraging and meeting the legal definition of inciting? Could some lawyerly folks give some examples of things that have been found to violate that legal standard? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/855 "2016-10-20T17:34:50Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > I’ve come to the conclusion that the reason Trump thinks that the election will be rigged is that he wants to rig it himself. He’s projecting again. Dude should seriously have his own Wikipedia page as “World’s Largest Projector”. Quite literally every single thing he’s accused Hillary of, he’s been guilty of. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/856 "2016-10-20T17:37:50Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Quite literally every single thing he’s accused Hillary of, he’s been guilty of. Probably why he accused Hillary of being on drugs. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/857 "2016-10-20T17:39:02Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Its totally unfair! You guys get Dennis Miller and\* Mallard Fillmore\*. > > All we got is Mark Twain, Charlie Chaplin, Will Rogers, George Carlin, Richard Pryor, John Stewart, Steve Colbert… They do have PJ O’Roarke. Oh wait, he hilariously endorsed Hilary. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/858 "2016-10-20T17:39:50Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > This is a strange thing to say. When did I say it was an even money situation that the election will be rigged vs not rigged. I simply said that you don’t accept something that hasn’t happened yet. Perhaps you did not watch the debate? Trump was not asked to concede last night; he was asked if he would concede if he lost the election. It was a conditional question. You can answer those. > [@](#): > > I believe his pre-refusal to accept the election results is characteristic of a skeptical society. Calling them rigged, i would suspect is merely a prediction or gut instinct. How curious, then, that other members of the same skeptical society had no problem accepting defeat in previous elections. > [@](#): > > There are no facts yet. What evidence do you have that the election that takes place in the future was not rigged? You can provide evidence that it will not be rigged but that doesn’t address my claim in the slightest. I have the evidence that previous elections were not rigged, and the evidence that rigging the election would be a gargantuan undertaking that, were it to happen, would already be quite evident. Things that happen in the future CAN, in fact, be anticipated with a fair degree of certainty. I am quite certain that tonight the Moon will appear in the south (from where I am) and will be a waning gibbous moon. I suppose it is theoretically possible the moon will explode, or will be veered off its usual orbit by a rogue planet, but I know where the smart money is. But again, I’m willing to bet $1000. What’s more, I’m happy to offer you better than even odds. Five to one? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/859 "2016-10-20T17:50:33Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > They do have PJ O’Roarke. Oh wait, he hilariously endorsed Hilary. Not that bad. Read his books, middling fair. Got kinda tired of hearing him brag about how he used to be a dope-smoking hippy but wised up and became an alcoholic. ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/860 "2016-10-20T18:07:23Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Where exactly does that cross the line into illegal territory? > > When I think of things he’s said to violent supporters at his rallies, it seems obvious to me he’s encouraging violence. But what’s the difference between encouraging and meeting the legal definition of inciting? > > Could some lawyerly folks give some examples of things that have been found to violate that legal standard? I’ve been wondering this myself. Hope someone answers. If this was an episode of Law & Order, Jack McCoy would have Trump charged with Murder 2 – Depraved Indifference. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995.md?page=42) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995.md?page=44)