# OFFICIAL Third Debate 10/19/16 Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 19, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995 "2016-10-19T01:00:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/881 "2016-10-20T19:28:14Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I don’t think concessions are legally binding. > > I do have one question- suppose Trump gets whomped but refuses to concede. Would the Secret Service keep protecting him or would they be told to abandon him? Presidential candidates are only entitled to Secret Service protection until so many day after the election (IRCC until the EC meets in December). They leave once that window is up regardless of whether Trump dismisses them or not. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/882 "2016-10-20T19:57:05Z")
> [@Jennshark](#): > > I double-dog agree that Trump looked pretty awful. He was sickly pale under his orange veneer. He looked like the dog’s dinner. > > I loved that Hills wore white and strolled in like the Good Witch of the West. She looks healthy and regal. And rested! Don’t forget rested! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/883 "2016-10-20T19:59:52Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Dude should seriously have his own Wikipedia page as “World’s Largest Projector”. > > Quite literally every single thing he’s accused Hillary of, he’s been guilty of. No projector. No projector! YOU’RE the projector! ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/884 "2016-10-20T20:01:32Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Presidential candidates are only entitled to Secret Service protection until so many day after the election (IRCC until the EC meets in December). They leave once that window is up regardless of whether Trump dismisses them or not. > > Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk They can certainly leave earlier- [Romney and McCain both lost their’s the day after the election](http://www.gq.com/story/how-the-secret-service-said-goodbye-to-mitt-romney). ETA: Also according to that article, if you _win_, your detail instantly becomes much larger. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/885 "2016-10-20T20:10:33Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > The famous case of _Black Knight v. Arthur Rex_. The plaintiff refused to concede, but his lawyers advised against bringing the case to court. Because, legally, he hadn’t a leg to stand on. 'Tis but a flesh wound. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/886 "2016-10-20T20:12:25Z")
Toooootally missed that one. Must be due to my impaired liberal sense of humor. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/887 "2016-10-20T20:15:03Z")
> [@ganthet](#): > > His spokeswoman “clarified” his comment: > > He will thoroughly examine the record of any Hillary nominee before reflexively blocking/opposing them. Opposing them, and voting no, is one thing, but not even allowing the nominee to come to a vote is something else again. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/888 "2016-10-20T20:17:27Z")
This is why we need to flip the Senate. Not just the SC, but all the lower Federal judgeships that have been delayed, blocked or otherwise left unfilled because the Republicans petulantly refuse to act on them. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/889 "2016-10-20T20:21:47Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Now he’s saying he will concede if he loses the election, but only if there is no questionable result. > > Which means all results will be questionable, right? On NPR I heard a little while ago-- Trump saying (It was Trump himself talking) that there was one way he would accept the results, “[IF I WIN.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/20/politics/donald-trump-i-will-totally-accept-election-results-if-i-win/)” (Link to CNN.) ETA: What a fucking blowhard. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/890 "2016-10-20T20:28:01Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > . . . But again, I’m willing to bet $1000. What’s more, I’m happy to offer you better than even odds. Five to one? Watch out: we might find that a single ballot fell behind a desk in Kenosha, WI, not to be discovered until early January. Then opponents could claim, “A ballot wasn’t counted; it wasn’t a fair election.” We’re dealing with that kind of reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/891 "2016-10-20T20:33:05Z")
Again, I would insist on us defining what a “rigged election” is, and that isn’t it. A rigged election would be one where, in the judgment of a reasonable person, a conspiracy took place to substantially alter the results of the election, and succeeded in doing so by a margin sufficient to make a substantial difference in the election results as measured in electoral votes (even if the conspiracy is uncovered and the electoral vote assignments corrected prior to the Electoral College meeting.) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/892 "2016-10-20T20:36:10Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > Wait. I thought the good witch is from the east, and the wicked one was from the west? Glinda the Good Witch was the Witch of the South (book) or North (film). The Wicked Witch of the East was only ever seen flattened under Dorothy’s house. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/893 "2016-10-20T20:44:20Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > The famous case of _Black Knight v. Arthur Rex_. The plaintiff refused to concede, but his lawyers advised against bringing the case to court. Because, legally, he hadn’t a leg to stand on. The impertinent, though, is whether he[sup]\*[/sup] will be, uh, _armed_. \*his supporters ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/894 "2016-10-20T20:44:21Z")
I’m trying to imagine the America as destroyed by Trump, and the only thing that comes to mind is Biff’s hotel/casino in the 1985 alternate timeline in Back to the Future II. Can someone please check to make sure Trump doesn’t have Gray’s Sports Almanac in his back pocket circa the 1960s? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/895 "2016-10-20T20:49:47Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [New bathroom doors](http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/53/70/61/11504726/3/920x920.jpg) at Trump Towers. 😃 Cute. Before I clicked I guessed what I might find. I was disappointed to see it wasn’t the two doors labeled “Gropers” and “Gropees”. Though I suppose that was last week’s doors. I gotta try harder to keep up. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/896 "2016-10-20T20:50:32Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > At a rally for Pence attended by a few hundred people in Salem, Va. last week, I met a man who told me to remember that everyone in the audience was a gun owner and that if Clinton won the election there would be a civil war. > > At an Iowa rally the week before a woman in the audience told Trump’s choice for vice president she feared the election might be stolen and that “If Hillary gets in, I myself I’m ready for a revolution because we can’t have her in.” > [Trump's refusal to say he'll accept election results fuel for supporters' agitation: Keith Boag | CBC News](http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-clinton-debate-rigged-election-question-1.3813342). > > When Trump inevitably loses, he would find it enormously validating to see his idiot followers revolt, and as far as he’s concerned, the more spectacularly and violently they do it, the better. That he is firing them up to do just that shows how little he thinks of them and of his own country. Trump is, and has always been, only about Trump. I think you’re right that Trump would find that validating, but for all his and his followers’ blather, I think any kind of armed revolt is _highly_ unlikely. You might have a few ultra-right idiots that do something like the Bundy family did and try to take over some remote bit of federal land, but no mass movement. “We’ll rise up and have a revolution to protect our country” is the right-wing flagwaver’s equivalent of the left wing’s “I’m moving to Canada”. Almost nobody actually takes that action. The country is more divided than it’s been in the recent past, but we’re a long way from actual civil war. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/897 "2016-10-20T20:50:53Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > Wait. I thought the good witch is from the east, and the wicked one was from the west? The good witch is from the North. The witch of the east was the dead one whom Dorothy landed on, the Wicked Witch of the West’s sister. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/898 "2016-10-20T20:52:23Z")
[quote=“RickJay, post:858, topic:768995”] Perhaps you did not watch the debate? Trump was not asked to concede last night; he was asked if he would concede if he lost the election. It was a conditional question. You can answer those. [QUOTE] Post a transcript and highlight where your outrage is coming from. > [@](#): > > How curious, then, that other members of the same skeptical society had no problem accepting defeat in previous elections. Has Trump had a problem accepting defeat in the election? > [@](#): > > I have the evidence that previous elections were not rigged, and the evidence that rigging the election would be a gargantuan undertaking that, were it to happen, would already be quite evident. Things that happen in the future CAN, in fact, be anticipated with a fair degree of certainty. I am quite certain that tonight the Moon will appear in the south (from where I am) and will be a waning gibbous moon. I suppose it is theoretically possible the moon will explode, or will be veered off its usual orbit by a rogue planet, but I know where the smart money is. There have been posters that have claimed that this election could be rigged, yet you choose to pester me because I made a very modest claim that someone who accepts an outcome without witnessing whether or not it was fairly executed is a chump. I assume your silence on the matter is because only Russians and Republicans can rig elections. > [@](#): > > But again, I’m willing to bet $1000. What’s more, I’m happy to offer you better than even odds. Five to one? So now you think I’m a chump? It would cost me over $5000 in time and energy in trying to prove the election met the agreed upon standards. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/899 "2016-10-20T20:52:58Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I think Hillary’s white was intentionally a reference to the suffragettes. Didn’t she wear blue at one debate, red at one, and white at the third? ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/900 "2016-10-20T20:55:53Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Didn’t she wear blue at one debate, red at one, and white at the third? Yeah, I think that’s all that was. No need to read anything deeper into it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995.md?page=46)