# OFFICIAL Third Debate 10/19/16 Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 19, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995 "2016-10-19T01:00:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/901 "2016-10-20T20:59:24Z")
Okay, it looks like the white = suffragette thing is mere speculation. I’m sure she’d love the comparison though. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/902 "2016-10-20T21:08:47Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Trump was not asked to concede last night; he was asked if he would concede if he lost the election. It was a conditional question. You can answer those. But the only \*right \*way to answer is along the lines of “It won’t come up because I’m going to win” - even if everyone in the room, including you, knows you aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/903 "2016-10-20T21:09:15Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > On NPR I heard a little while ago-- Trump saying (It was Trump himself talking) that there was one way he would accept the results, “[IF I WIN.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/20/politics/donald-trump-i-will-totally-accept-election-results-if-i-win/)” (Link to CNN.) > > ETA: What a fucking blowhard. Yeah, that’s sort of what I was getting at above. Anything short of him winning will be seen as questionable. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/904 "2016-10-20T21:18:34Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > I’m trying to imagine the America as destroyed by Trump, and the only thing that comes to mind is Biff’s hotel/casino in the 1985 alternate timeline in Back to the Future II. > > Can someone please check to make sure Trump doesn’t have Gray’s Sports Almanac in his back pocket circa the 1960s? My vision is Pottersville from _It’s a Wonderful Life_. ---
**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/905 "2016-10-20T21:22:44Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > I’m trying to imagine the America as destroyed by Trump, and the only thing that comes to mind is Biff’s hotel/casino in the 1985 alternate timeline in Back to the Future II. > > Can someone please check to make sure Trump doesn’t have Gray’s Sports Almanac in his back pocket circa the 1960s? Well we’re safe because the Cubs would never win the… er, ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/906 "2016-10-20T21:26:32Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > I’m trying to imagine the America as destroyed by Trump, and the only thing that comes to mind is Biff’s hotel/casino in the 1985 alternate timeline in Back to the Future II. > > Can someone please check to make sure Trump doesn’t have Gray’s Sports Almanac in his back pocket circa the 1960s? Who do you think [Biff was modeled on](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/21/how-back-to-the-future-predicted-trump.html)? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/907 "2016-10-20T21:36:11Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > No projector. No projector! YOU’RE the projector! Your FACE is the projector! And I’ve walked behind her and I wasn’t impressed. Nasty, nasty woman. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/908 "2016-10-20T21:39:35Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Not that bad. Read his books, middling fair. Got kinda tired of hearing him brag about how he used to be a dope-smoking hippy but wised up and became an alcoholic. Read _Holidays In Hell_, a collection of his _Rolling Stone_ pieces from around the world. His report from the Philippines eviscerating the Marcos regime was wonderful. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/909 "2016-10-20T21:49:27Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Okay, it looks like the white = suffragette thing is mere speculation. > > I’m sure she’d love the comparison though. Oh, Stephen Colbert explained what she’s going for. [Deep Space 9 Pope.](http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2837342.1476925958!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/campaign-2016-debate.jpg) (vs. [Kai](http://trekcore.com/gallery/albums/kaiwinn/life-support_024.jpg)) ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/910 "2016-10-20T22:48:06Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > My vision is Pottersville from _It’s a Wonderful Life_. **George Bailey:** “In the whole vast configuration of things I’d say you were nothing but a scurvy little spider.” **Mr. Potter:** “No spider. No spider! You’re the spider. No, you’re the spider.” ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/911 "2016-10-20T22:54:28Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Hillary dodged the open borders question. That is very concerning. Look at what open borders are doing to the EU. They are being flooded. Open borders was a key factor in Brexit. WTF? She nailed it on the “open borders” talking point by the GOP. Look, just come out and say you won’t believe her no matter what she says because this is honestly embarrassing. She said it was about energy, it was about energy, period Here’s the [Politifact](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/oct/17/10-misleading-trump-attack-lines-wikileaks-email-d/) point on this: > [@](#): > > 1. On Clinton’s support for “open borders” > > \*\*What Trump said: \*\*The speeches show “Hillary Clinton’s radical call for open borders, meaning anyone in the world can enter the United States without any limit at all.” (Oct. 10 in Ambridge, Pa.) > > **What the emails actually said:** It’s not clear at all what she meant, experts agreed. > > In a May 2013 speech to a Brazilian Bank, Clinton said, “My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere.” > > Clinton’s campaign said she was talking about clean energy across the hemisphere. In the current election, Clinton has not called for “open borders” in an immigration sense. While Politifact seemingly doesn’t want to take her at her word, the actual content of what she said is clear to me. She’s speaking to a bank about a “common market”, in the same sentence right before “open borders”, she talks about open trade, which, if we’re still on the subject of the market, is OBVIOUSLY speaking not to immigration but to business and commerce. And the very next part of the sentence mentions energy, just as she explicitly said during the debate. You don’t have to believe it, and god knows a lot of people are wrongly critical about Clinton, but to fair-minded people, she was talking not about open immigration borders, she was talking about open market borders for energy _exactly as she explained._ You know the phrase “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire”? The reason why people believe the women who are accusing Donald of sexually assaulting women is not because they are Clinton supporters, its because Donald has talked about doing that exact same thing. He’s the smoke, they’re the fire. Meanwhile, as Politifact noted, Clinton has not advocated an open border immigration policy at all. Therefore, everyone should believe her when she says this is about energy markets and not immigration. There’s no smoke, there’s no fire ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/912 "2016-10-20T23:02:11Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Oh, Stephen Colbert explained what she’s going for. [Deep Space 9 Pope.](http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2837342.1476925958!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/campaign-2016-debate.jpg) (vs. [Kai](http://trekcore.com/gallery/albums/kaiwinn/life-support_024.jpg)) [Dr. No?](http://cdn-media.hollywood.com/images/l/drno_620_110212.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/913 "2016-10-20T23:27:45Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I was glad to see Trump keep his eye on the prize.(An Emmy) Maybe the Academy will create a special one for him for his performance in the campaign. And present it to him on the evening of November 8, right before he mounts the podium to denounce the election results. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/914 "2016-10-20T23:36:02Z")
> [@squidfood](#): > > Well we’re safe because the Cubs would never win the… er, > [@running\_coach](#): > > Who do you think [Biff was modeled on](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/21/how-back-to-the-future-predicted-trump.html)? > 😉 :eek: ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/915 "2016-10-20T23:45:48Z")
I want a shirt that says “I’m a nasty woman too.” ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/916 "2016-10-20T23:57:29Z")
> [@joyfool](#): > > I want a shirt that says “I’m a nasty woman too.” I’ve been meaning to ask. Did you used to be **faithfool**? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/917 "2016-10-20T23:58:35Z")
I happened to just hear a snippet of the “if I win” speech on the car radio, and it was something like “I have a major announcement for the people of the United States. [Hoots and cheers from the assembled rubes.] I will fully accept the results of this presidential election. If I win.” I will be so, so, very glad to have heard the last of this pompous strutting blowhard when this election is over. I was sick and tired of hearing GWB back in 2000 but GWB is like an angelic choir and the voice of intellectual reason compared to this blithering, dangerous moron. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/918 "2016-10-21T00:44:07Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I’ve been meaning to ask. Did you used to be **faithfool**? Yes, ma’am. Changed my name in an attempt to boost my outlook / new normal as I’m heading into the first anniversary of my husband’s passing. So far, it at least makes me smile a bit when I see it. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/919 "2016-10-21T00:46:15Z")
> [@joyfool](#): > > Yes, ma’am. Changed my name in an attempt to boost my outlook / new normal as I’m heading into the first anniversary of my husband’s passing. So far, it at least makes me smile a bit when I see it. It makes me smile, too. Glad to see you taking some steps forward. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995/920 "2016-10-21T00:56:04Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Okay, it looks like the white = suffragette thing is mere speculation. > > I’m sure she’d love the comparison though. She gave her DNC acceptance speech in white, also, and some commentators speculated at the time that it was a shout-out to suffragette history. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/official-third-debate-10-19-16-thread/768995.md?page=47)