# Officially tired of **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 19, 2006, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023 "2006-03-19T18:49:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/21 "2006-03-19T22:22:20Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > No, I know they’re not deliberately trying to exclude. Kinda my point. They think they’re communicating, but their “cleverness” is just sabotaging their conversation. Only in regards to my involvement in the conversation. Most groups are made up of people who have something in common, interact with one another, and are interdependent. I’ve been able to pick up the meaning of these phrases second handed and figure out some of the Jargon they use such as “Browncoat” so the communication is effective on some level. It’s just rather limited when it comes to me and the other odd men out. Let’s face it, if I was in a group of moder art enthusiast I’d probably be confused by the jargon they used and their efforts at communication would likely be hindered. Marc ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2006, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/22 "2006-03-19T22:27:05Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > …what are the SDMB cliches that need to be retired, specifically the popculture references? All of them? ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/23 "2006-03-19T22:29:09Z")
I’ll give you #3. Hi Opal! Christ, how in the hell did that ever start and why did it continue for so long? I got nothing against Opal but enough is enough. Marc ---
**Author:** ![monica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a183cd/32.png) [@monica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monica)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/24 "2006-03-20T00:05:14Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > ? Must be a Simpsons reference. Nope. Princess Bride. Prince Humperdink suggests a fight to the death; Westley counters with: > [@](#): > > Westley: “No. To the pain.” > Humperdink: “I don’t believe I’m familiar with that phrase.” > Westley: “I’ll explain, and I’ll use small words so you’ll be sure to understand, you warthog-faced buffoon.” > Humperdink: “That may be the first time in my life a man has dared insult me.” > Westley: “It won’t be the last. To the pain means the first thing you lose is your feet below the ankles. Then your hands at the wrist. Next your nose.” > Humperdink: “Then my tongue, I suppose. I killed you too quickly the first time, a mistake I do not mean to duplicate tonight.” > Westley: “I wasn’t finished. The next thing you lose will be your left eye, followed by your right.” > Humperdink: “And then my ears, I understand, let’s get on with it.” > Westley: “WRONG! Your ears you keep and I’ll tell you why. It’s so that every shriek of every child at seeing your hideousness will be yours to cherish. Every babe that weeps at your approach, every woman who cries out ‘Dear God, what is that thing’ will echo in your perfect ears. That is what to the pain means. It means I leave you in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery forever.” ---
**Author:** ![AFAIKnow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@AFAIKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AFAIKnow)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/25 "2006-03-20T00:39:25Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Come to think of it, I’ve been tired of Simpsons references since I first noticed I was tired of \*Caddyshack \*references. Don’t have a cow, man. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/26 "2006-03-20T00:51:48Z")
Tarmok and Gilad at Tinagra. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/27 "2006-03-20T02:04:28Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > I mean, what are the SDMB cliches that need to be retired, specifically the popculture references? !!! :mad: Taste the burning wrath of my 1920s-style death ray, vile heretic! (Hi, Opal! 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/28 "2006-03-20T03:02:37Z")
Great OP, but it needs more cowbell. You knew somebody was going to do it. ---
**Author:** ![RogueRacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RogueRacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RogueRacer)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/29 "2006-03-20T04:24:55Z")
Jumped the shark has seriously… well… jumped the shark. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/30 "2006-03-20T04:37:13Z")
> [@RogueRacer](#): > > Jumped the shark has seriously… well… jumped the shark. It sailed over the shark long ago. Now when people are talking about a show getting close to this point, they get way too descriptive. “The show might not have jumped the shark yet but the tank is full and the motor is running”. Yeah yeah, we get it, stop watching the show. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/31 "2006-03-20T04:37:13Z")
cliches should be avoided like the plague. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/32 "2006-03-20T15:22:51Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Tarmok and Gilad at Tinagra. Is that anything like [Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra](http://www.trekmania.net/conference/episodes/episodes02-01.htm)? ---
**Author:** ![DarrenS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@DarrenS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DarrenS)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/33 "2006-03-20T15:42:40Z")
Can I get an a-men for Jakov Smirnov? (“in this thread, Jakov quotes _you_” etc.) ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/34 "2006-03-20T17:55:19Z")
Band name! It used to be funny. Not so much anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Interrobang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/interrobang/32/17463_2.png) [@Interrobang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interrobang)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/35 "2006-03-20T17:56:11Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Yeah. I’m a hardcore Buffyhead, but I think I only drop Buffyisms among other Buffyheads. I wouldn’t drop one in “mixed company” because it would only communicate anything _to other Buffyheads_. I don’t necessarily disagree with your point, but I’m curious – how do you decide something’s well-known enough to quote in “mixed company”? Is Shakespeare? Beatles lyrics? Only the popular Shakespeare plays or Beatles songs? Anyone who quotes anything without context should know that their message won’t be as effective with people ignorant of their source, but that can be offset by a greater reaction among people who do get the reference. Your user name references a book that I’d wager most people on the boards haven’t read; do you think you’re being exclusionary? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/36 "2006-03-20T18:13:03Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > [I’ve got a fever, and the only cure is More Cowbell!!](http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2687249?htv=12) An invisible cowbell? All I see is a white rectangle where a video clip is apparaently supposed to be. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/37 "2006-03-20T18:34:46Z")
> [@Interrobang!?](#): > > I don’t necessarily disagree with your point, but I’m curious – how do you decide something’s well-known enough to quote in “mixed company”? Is Shakespeare? Beatles lyrics? Only the popular Shakespeare plays or Beatles songs? > > Anyone who quotes anything without context should know that their message won’t be as effective with people ignorant of their source, but that can be offset by a greater reaction among people who do get the reference. > > Your user name references a book that I’d wager most people on the boards haven’t read; do you think you’re being exclusionary? No, because I’m not trying to communicate anything with my username. If I were using it in conversation to make a point, that would be different, and yes exclusionary. But I’m not sure how I decide if a reference is well enough known to work in mixed company. I guess you just know. And of course, the more the meaning of the reference stands alone, the more communicative. “A rose by any other name would smell as sweet” communicates what it communicates very clearly; the fact that it’s from Shakespeare is entirely irrelevant to that meaning. The kind of references I’m talking about here are the ones that are totally meaningless without a knowledge of their context. ---
**Author:** ![Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnac_the_Magnificent)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/38 "2006-03-20T22:10:59Z")
This doesn’t exactly belong here, but must be said: Stop saying “I loves me some [insert word]” Christ, is that annoying! In fact, I will PAY people not to use that tiresome expression. Ditto anything that begins “recommend me some …” That is all. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/39 "2006-03-20T22:19:17Z")
> [@Carnac the Magnificent!](#): > > This doesn’t exactly belong here, but must be said: > > Stop saying “I loves me some [insert word]” > > Christ, is that annoying! In fact, I will PAY people not to use that tiresome expression. Ditto anything that begins “recommend me some …” > > That is all. Cool. I’ll bill your $5 for every time I don’t say either phrase. That’s $10 and counting. Wait, I just didn’t say them again. $20. ---
**Author:** ![marque\_elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@marque\_elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marque_elf)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-tired-of/349023/40 "2006-03-20T23:39:10Z")
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