# "Officially" Unattractive Actors/Models

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 25, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525 "2009-09-25T15:50:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/61 "2009-09-26T02:45:18Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> LOTS of his roles have involved heavy makeup - \*Hellboy \*for one, but there are plenty of others. Part of it is his unique bone structure, but it’s also because he’s supposedly an easygoing guy who has no problem spending four hours a day chatting with makeup technicians.

And if you look closely you’ll see how little of it is latex and how much is Ron, with maybe some cotton in his cheeks. Ron Perlman was never destined to be a leading man, but he has done a terrific job with what he has AND he parlayed it into several seasons of being an actual leading man.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/62 "2009-09-26T02:45:54Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> LOTS of his roles have involved heavy makeup - \*Hellboy \*for one, but there are plenty of others. Part of it is his unique bone structure, but it’s also because he’s supposedly an easygoing guy who has no problem spending four hours a day chatting with makeup technicians.
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> Terrific actor, BTW. I strongly believe he could have been one of the biggest stars in the business if he looked ever remotely human.

I really think Ron Perlman could do an Oscar-level performance if he was ever given a Mary-Shelly-faithful role as the Frankenstein monster.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/63 "2009-09-26T02:48:54Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> This sounds like a classic feminine misunderstanding of what guys find attractive. The only true answer to what type of woman guys like is “all types.”

Amen. And we should add the plumper ladies. Did anyone notice Camryn Manheim in “The Road to Wellville?” I know I did.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/64 "2009-09-26T02:50:00Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> I really think Ron Perlman could do an Oscar-level performance if he was ever given a Mary-Shelly-faithful role as the Frankenstein monster.

Wouldn’t that be GREAT?!?!? He’s a helluva actor and the story has never been done right.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/65 "2009-09-26T03:05:49Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Hey, in looking for a picture of Danny Trejo to give you as an example…

And yet, despite his life and his looks, on “King of the Hill” he’s the hopelessly nice and middle-class Enrique.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/66 "2009-09-26T03:14:18Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Amy Sedaris has unconventional good looks, imo, but she works so hard to \*not \*look good.

Then she is [failing miserably.](http://www.hairfinder.com/celebrityhairstyles/amy-sedaris.jpg)

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/67 "2009-09-26T03:25:01Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Then she is [failing miserably.](http://www.hairfinder.com/celebrityhairstyles/amy-sedaris.jpg)

[Counterpoint](http://www.indiewire.com/images/uploads/iw9/ots/StrangersWithCandy.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/68 "2009-09-26T03:28:13Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> [Counterpoint](http://www.indiewire.com/images/uploads/iw9/ots/StrangersWithCandy.jpg).

I remember David Sedaris talking about her trying to look bad in one of his books–how she’d put on a fat suit and act totally serious to fuck with their dad, who took pride in having beautiful daughters.

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/69 "2009-09-26T03:34:20Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> [Counterpoint](http://www.indiewire.com/images/uploads/iw9/ots/StrangersWithCandy.jpg).

That’s in character, that doesn’t really count any more than you can say that Charlize Theron is ugly [based on this](http://thismighthurt.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/monster.jpg).

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/70 "2009-09-26T03:34:26Z")

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[Harvey Keitel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Keitel)has never been much of a beauty

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**Author:** ![Kingspades](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecae2f/32.png) [@Kingspades](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kingspades)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/71 "2009-09-26T03:55:36Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> My God, to steal a line from another Doper, I’d hit that like the Tunguska meteorite of 1906!

Well, okay, you’re the third one to object. Looks as though MMMV. For my part I find her unattractive to the point of a train wreck - I want to look away but can’t.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/72 "2009-09-26T04:28:59Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Amen. And we should add the plumper ladies.

Woah, hey, let’s not get crazy. Fat is as unattractive to me as not shaving or not bathing.

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/73 "2009-09-26T04:31:23Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Woah, hey, let’s not get crazy. Fat is as unattractive to me as not shaving or not bathing.

Well is plump a “type” or not? I find them attractive as hell. Not _fat_ women like you sensitively put it, just plump. There’s a difference.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/74 "2009-09-26T04:40:45Z")

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Hmmm, we’re in danger of hijacking this thread. Can I close this tangent by pointing out that I said all types of _attractive_ women? Many (most?) guys don’t find fat attractive, though some certainly do.

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/75 "2009-09-26T04:55:09Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Hmmm, we’re in danger of hijacking this thread. Can I close this tangent by pointing out that I said all types of _attractive_ women? Many (most?) guys don’t find fat attractive, though some certainly do.

No we can’t close it with that. Fat is not equal to plump.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/76 "2009-09-26T05:08:16Z")

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> [@tumbleddown](#):
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> That’s in character, that doesn’t really count any more than you can say that Charlize Theron is ugly [based on this](http://thismighthurt.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/monster.jpg).

Based on THAT, Charlize Theron IS ugly.

If you go back into the 60’s and earlier, there wasn’t quite such a premium on beauty. Let’s see

Barbara Stanwick  
Irene Ryan  
Bette Davis  
Humphrey Bogart

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/77 "2009-09-26T05:49:29Z")

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In “Lawrence of Arabia”, Anthony [Quayle](http://dvdtoile.com/ARTISTES/5/5140.jpg) was cast as Colonel Brighton. Somewhere in the movie one of the Arabs tells Brighton he has a silly face. I’ve always wondered how Quayle felt about that particular casting.  
Roddy

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/78 "2009-09-26T12:01:26Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> In “Lawrence of Arabia”, Anthony [Quayle](http://dvdtoile.com/ARTISTES/5/5140.jpg) was cast as Colonel Brighton. Somewhere in the movie one of the Arabs tells Brighton he has a silly face. I’ve always wondered how Quayle felt about that particular casting.  
> Roddy

Which reminds me of a couple more famously ugly stars.

Anthony Quinn  
Ernest Borgnine

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/79 "2009-09-26T12:24:44Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> I really think Ron Perlman could do an Oscar-level performance if he was ever given a Mary-Shelly-faithful role as the Frankenstein monster.

Well, he did look very Frankenstein’s monsterish as [Salvatore](http://www.jdmfilmreviews.com/images/name-of-the-rose-ron-pearlman1.jpg) in Name of the Rose.

I actually like him, I have never had what I would call a great date with a model pretty man. I have had some of my best dates with ordinary looking or less than good looking guys. I want a guy that can hold his own in a conversation, is interested in hanging out and having fun. Most pretty boys I have dated were all about being seen in public and aweing people with their looks.

[Just like I wouldn’t date a sports fanatic, I don’t like sports and have no interest in discussing stats. There are female sports fans out there that they are a better match for.]

It is part and parcel with not dating a guy hung like a horse … too many of them think that going at it like a battering ram will get all women off when we prefer a bit more finesse:)

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/officially-unattractive-actors-models/511525/80 "2009-09-26T12:41:24Z")

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