# Oh boy, here comes Reverend Wright

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 31, 2008, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403 "2008-10-31T10:50:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/1 "2008-10-31T10:50:13Z")

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This’ll make the nutters happy.

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> [Conservative Group To Run Anti-Wright Ads On National Networks Through Election Day](http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/conservative_group_to_run_anti.php)
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> Get ready for a deluge of Wright rantings.
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> The National Republican Trust PAC, which has been airing an ad attacking Barack Obama’s association with Reverend Wright in three battleground states, has now put down for a national buy on five networks that will last from now through election day, a consultant with the group confirms to me.
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> The ad will run nationally on Fox, CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC for the next five days, the consultant, Rick Wilson, says – “all the way until election day.”
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> The ad, which you can watch here, features the now-infamous footage of Wright’s livelier sermons, and intones that Obama “never complained” about Wright “until he ran for President,” adding that Obama is “too radical, too risky.”
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> Previously, the ad was only running in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida, as Ben Smith reported the other day.
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> Now, however, the ad will run nationally, Wilson says, adding that the group just got through getting the spot vetted with network lawyers and is good to go.
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> Late Update: Wilson tells me that the PAC will have spent $2 million on this national buy by the end of tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/2 "2008-10-31T11:01:48Z")

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I don’t listen to a lot of what this guy says and I don’t really care. The Right has it’s Jerry Folwell and Pat Robertson and a lot of other complete loons, and we’ve had far more Presidents paying attention to those assholes, and paying them homage, than guys like this.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/3 "2008-10-31T12:53:59Z")

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I kinda like him. He’s cuddly.

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**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/4 "2008-10-31T13:57:39Z")

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I listened to Hannity on the radio (always nice to know what they’re up to over there) and Dick Morris was on his show last night and mentioned this, stroking Hannity about being the first to “bring up” Rev. Loudmouth. As if it matters. It’s good to know that McCain isn’t driving this, but it’s neat to watch the wingnuts melt down and have nothing to hang on to as they slip into obilivion.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/5 "2008-10-31T16:15:12Z")

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Conservative movement eats itself. Film at 11. And 12. And 1. And 2. Welcome to the 24-hour news cycle. Better than Sunday afternoon motocross. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/6 "2008-10-31T17:48:05Z")

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This is very encouraging. They’re down to days and hours left, and their master plan is something that was already tried and failed half a year ago.

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/7 "2008-10-31T17:57:39Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Conservative movement eats itself. Film at 11. And 12. And 1. And 2. Welcome to the 24-hour news cycle. Better than Sunday afternoon motocross. 🙂

Then of course you put the conservative movement and a Sunday afternoon motocross together, and you get this:

![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Lix3LUyj9jo/maxresdefault.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/Lix3LUyj9jo?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/8 "2008-10-31T18:17:13Z")

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Oh. My. God.

Why have I never heard of Wright before?

They were right. I really didn’t know Obama. Not truly.

I’m going to vote for the white guy now.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/9 "2008-10-31T18:28:14Z")

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Yep, Rush brought this here Reverend Wright to my attention just this afternoon. Don’t know how this escaped my attention before. This man actually said ‘God Damn the USA’, not once but at least three times in the same sermon. And apparently Obama went to his church on Sunday for something like twenty years, so clearly Mr. Obama wants God to damn the USA too. And if he becomes President, then obviously God does damn the USA, because He just let some anti-American, uh, person, get elected to run the whole goddam country.

Er, I think that’s what I wanted to say.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/10 "2008-10-31T18:46:22Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Yep, Rush brought this here Reverend Wright to my attention just this afternoon. Don’t know how this escaped my attention before. This man actually said ‘God Damn the USA’, not once but at least three times in the same sermon. And apparently Obama went to his church on Sunday for something like twenty years, so clearly Mr. Obama wants God to damn the USA too. And if he becomes President, then obviously God does damn the USA, because He just let some anti-American, uh, person, get elected to run the whole goddam country.
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> Er, I think that’s what I wanted to say.

That makes no sense though. Obama’s a Muslim. What’s a Muslim doing in church?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/11 "2008-10-31T19:01:46Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> That makes no sense though. Obama’s a Muslim. What’s a Muslim doing in church?

Well, there in a nutshell is the evil genius of the man. He’s been planning this for a long, long time. He goes to an anti-American church for twenty years to distract you from the fact that he’s a muslim, which, as we all know, is far worse than just being anti-American.

I mean, wake up, USA!

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/12 "2008-10-31T19:03:32Z")

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> [@buttonjockey308](#):
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> it’s neat to watch the wingnuts melt down and have nothing to hang on to as they slip into obilivion.

[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
Conservative movement eats itself.  
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[QUOTE=Peanut Gallery]  
This is very encouraging.  
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I hope you guys are right. Someone mentioned in another thread that it’s Friday, and people start tuning out the news, so really, only Monday counts. I hope that’s true too.

I have to admit to my own ignorance here. I completely tuned out politics until a few weeks ago and missed the whole Rev. Wright episode. I think I know pretty much the gist just from people referencing it in political threads, which is that Obama went to this Wright’s church, Wright doesn’t like white people, and Obama took his sweet time in denouncing Wright’s views, therefore “some people say” that Obama agrees with Wright. Could someone put the Wright/Obama connection into an intelligent nutshell for me or send me to a link (one written by someone sane…I’m sure googling could come up with tons of sites by wingnut crackloons so I’m afraid to go searching) that explains it all in more depth, please?

I have heard that Obama gave what many consider a pretty impressive speech about race in response to all that, but since I tuned Obama out too until fairly recently (post-DNC convention), that’s another thing I missed. Anyone got a link to it?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/13 "2008-10-31T19:04:09Z")

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The ad’s already running in Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania, and McCain is likely to win at most one of those three. Imagine just how played-out the good Rev. must be if those ads are running and people are still moving toward Obama.

Or maybe he’s got some white friends. And they be clappin’ like this, y’all.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/14 "2008-10-31T19:09:08Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> I hope you guys are right. Someone mentioned in another thread that it’s Friday, and people start tuning out the news, so really, only Monday counts. I hope that’s true too.

That was me. It’s longstanding practice for companies and people to dump bad news on a Friday when fewer people are paying attention. Over the weekend, McCain’s going to be on SNL and people are going to watch football. Monday they’ll each be in 15 states before breakfast, like that’s what makes the difference.

There are too many threads on Wright to even count. If you want to see Obama’s Philadelphia speech on race, it’s available on his Web site.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/15 "2008-10-31T19:15:18Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> I have to admit to my own ignorance here. I completely tuned out politics until a few weeks ago and missed the whole Rev. Wright episode. I think I know pretty much the gist just from people referencing it in political threads, which is that Obama went to this Wright’s church, Wright doesn’t like white people, and Obama took his sweet time in denouncing Wright’s views, therefore “some people say” that Obama agrees with Wright.

It wasn’t even really like that. There’s no particular reason to believe Wright hates white people or America; he was a U.S. Marine for two years, and a Navy corpsman and medic.

The problem is that he subscribes to [black liberation theology](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_liberation_theology), which is sort of like Marxism for black folk - ie “rise up and overthrow the whites” instead of the bourgeoisie. It’s more like a political movement than a theological one, although being Church-based there’s plenty of Jesus stuff involved. It represents black people as the Israelites, waiting for God to lead them out of Egypt.

Essentially, it’s a Christian-based anti-racism movement- but it uses some pretty scary-sounding rhetoric (like “God damn America!”)

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/16 "2008-10-31T19:25:44Z")

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Thanks Marley23. I couldn’t remember where I read your post because I was skipping from thread to thread.

It’s awfully risky of McCain to go on SNL, isn’t it? I’d think they wouldn’t much like him over there, he’ll come across as a stiff old guy, and his smile is pretty creepy. I’ve heard that Palin was on a few weeks ago, I guess to show what a good sport she was. Has Obama and/or Biden ever been on SNL?

The thought of trying to find something specific on Obama’s web site fills me with dread, which is why I asked for a link, because I thought someone might have it bookmarked. That was just me being a lazy bitch.  
ETA, thanks RNATB!

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/17 "2008-10-31T19:39:02Z")

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I think I’ll invite him over to play Rock Band.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/18 "2008-10-31T19:42:22Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> It’s awfully risky of McCain to go on SNL, isn’t it?

Yes, especially if the Wright ads actually do run. On a live show, one loud “You said no Reverend Wright!” ringing out from the audience will eat up a lot of Monday’s news cycle. Question is, will anyone have the balls to yell it?

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/19 "2008-10-31T19:47:00Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Yes, especially if the Wright ads actually do run. On a live show, one loud “You said no Reverend Wright!” ringing out from the audience will eat up a lot of Monday’s news cycle. Question is, will anyone have the balls to yell it?

Technically, he’s not behind the Wright ads, some 527 group is. The surprising part is that someone aside from McCain would actually spend money on McCain’s campaign at this point.

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**Author:** ![newcrasher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@newcrasher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcrasher)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-boy-here-comes-reverend-wright/470403/20 "2008-11-01T17:01:50Z")

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The thing that amazes me is how few people have taken the time to listen to the whole thing, which is readily available online.

It is a prophetic diatribe. He is directly linking the times God turned his back on Israel (damning them) with America’s unjust behavior. You would think that a man calling America to live up to biblical ideals would excite the religious right, but alas no. Many religious are more loyal to their party than to their God.

Meh.

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