# Oh Brownie, you're still a douchewaste! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 31, 2012, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389 "2012-10-31T02:05:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/21 "2012-10-31T16:13:48Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > To be fair, I don’t think we can extrapolate Bush’s incompetence to all Republicans. Why not? They all voted for him twice. They would vote for him again if he were allowed to run for a third term and did. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/22 "2012-10-31T16:38:05Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > To be fair, I don’t think we can extrapolate Bush’s incompetence to all Republicans. Romney wants to DEFUND FEMA. Explain how that would have better results than what Bush did. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/23 "2012-10-31T16:39:41Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Romney wants to DEFUND FEMA. Explain how that would have better results than what Bush did. You wouldn’t have the FEMA Director to kick around and be able to lay all the blame on the states. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/24 "2012-10-31T17:06:27Z")
In other news, John McCain has once again suspended his campaign to address the emergency. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/25 "2012-10-31T17:40:37Z")
The gift that keeps on giving ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/26 "2012-10-31T17:41:26Z")
> [@Enkel](#): > > I wish people would quit saying this. The Arabian Horse Association went into a nose dive under Brownie and the breed is much worse off since his leadership. If you want him to run a breed association, let him try pet rocks… I’m sure there are pure sandstone out there that he can’t much screw up. I’ve heard this criticism as well, but I’d be curious to know what he did that was so bad at the Arabian Horse Association. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t doubt at all that he was a shitty leader and drove the organization into the ground. But what were some specific things he did during his tenure there. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/27 "2012-10-31T17:45:52Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Romney wants to DEFUND FEMA. Explain how that would have better results than what Bush did. Are there any swing states on the east coast? Maybe this could swing them to the good guys? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/28 "2012-10-31T17:47:08Z")
[From Wiki.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_Horse_Association#Controversy_of_Michael_Brown) > [@](#): > > After considerable discussion over the years over how to improve the quality of judges and judging, IAHA appointed Michael Brown as its first Judges and Stewards Commissioner. He served from 1989 until 2001. Brown attempted to crack down on members of the association for rule violations, and was particularly noted for the prosecution of one prominent trainer, who was also a licensed judge, for having “plastic surgery” and other artificial enhancements performed on the horses in his care, including tattooing and liposuction.[4] Some members accused Brown of practicing favoritism by prosecuting some members and not others. But while the individual in question was suspended for five years and several horses he had shown disqualified for assorted championships, this person filed suit against the organization, along with several other individuals who owned horses associated with him. Some of these large lawsuits were against the association and others named Brown personally.[5]\*\* IAHA successfully defended the lawsuit brought by the trainer, though accumulated crippling legal fees in doing so. On the advice of counsel and their insurer, IAHA settled the remaining cases.\*\*[6] > > Brown volunteered to resign after controversy about his fundraising methods for defending against the lawsuits and his creation of a personal legal defense fund.[6][7] After leaving IAHA, Brown became the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), during the Presidency of George W. Bush, and was once again a target of controversy in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/29 "2012-10-31T18:12:36Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Remember “Helluva job Brownie”? Nitpick: “heck”, not “hell”. And I think that we should talk about this a LOT… ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/30 "2012-10-31T18:35:04Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > No joke: The other day I was listening to a conservative radio show. The dude on the radio was complaining that the “main stream liberal media” was giving too much air time to Hurricane Sandy. And that the only reason for doing this was to cover up Obama’s gross mishandling of Benghazigate. > > He then went on to classify Sandy as just a strong wind. And [paraphrasing here] “Them Yanks need to man up.” > > Good lord, my home state of Texas never ceases to embarrass me. Well, he does have somewhat of a point. It wasn’t expressed well, but still… Sandy was a mild storm compared to Katrina, Rita, Ike, etc. However, the MSM is playing it up with all the “Frankenstorm” bullshit. They probably heaved a sigh of relief when they had something, anything, to knock Benghazi off the front page. Ghods forbid that the media should do something with integrity, like point out how Obama sat on his ass, let those people die, and then lied about it. But you can bet your bottom dollar that if McCain was in the White House, the MSM would be screaming for his public crucifixion if this had happened on his watch (which it wouldn’t have, but that’s a different issue altogether). ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/31 "2012-10-31T18:37:22Z")
No matter how unpredictable the weather may get, we can always rely on **Clothahump**. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/32 "2012-10-31T19:05:18Z")
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/33 "2012-10-31T19:22:44Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sandy was a mild storm compared to Katrina, Rita, Ike, etc. However, the MSM is playing it up with all the “Frankenstorm” bullshit. They probably heaved a sigh of relief when they had something, anything, to knock Benghazi off the front page. Ghods forbid that the media should do something with integrity, like point out how Obama sat on his ass, let those people die, and then lied about it. But you can bet your bottom dollar that if McCain was in the White House, the MSM would be screaming for his public crucifixion if this had happened on his watch (which it wouldn’t have, but that’s a different issue altogether). But Sandy is a hurricane that was striking some major American cities this week. That’s newsworthy. The Benghazi attack occurred six weeks ago. It’s not front-page news anymore. At this point the only reason to still be running Benghazi stories is for political reasons. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/34 "2012-10-31T19:51:35Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sandy was a mild storm compared to Katrina, Rita, Ike, etc. However, the MSM is playing it up with all the “Frankenstorm” bullshit. They probably heaved a sigh of relief when they had something, anything, to knock Benghazi off the front page. Well, Sandy was only a Category 1 'cane . . . Nevertheless, it did synergize with a winter storm system and behave like a classic “noreaster”. In terms of property damage, Sandy is projected to be the second most expensive hurricane in American history, after Katrina. That’s more newsworthy than Benghazi. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/35 "2012-10-31T20:02:15Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Well, he does have somewhat of a point. It wasn’t expressed well, but still… > > Sandy was a mild storm compared to Katrina, Rita, Ike, etc. However, the MSM is playing it up with all the “Frankenstorm” bullshit. They probably heaved a sigh of relief when they had something, anything, to knock Benghazi off the front page. Ghods forbid that the media should do something with integrity, like point out how Obama sat on his ass, let those people die, and then lied about it. But you can bet your bottom dollar that if McCain was in the White House, the MSM would be screaming for his public crucifixion if this had happened on his watch (which it wouldn’t have, but that’s a different issue altogether). Perhaps you can explain how McCain would have turned away the storm? Perhaps you can explain why this was a minor storm when it had the lowest pressure recorded in the area? Perhaps you could explain why it was nothing big with the largest storm surge on record in New York? Oddly enough Obama didn’t need someone to make a DVD of storm damage to wake him up that something was happening. Chris Christie, that well known left winger, said that Obama has been doing a great job. I heard him myself last night on CNN. Not to mention that they’ve been expediting the process, for instance allowing answers to questions needed to declare NJ a disaster area to be given on the phone, not in writing as is supposed to be done. Try to turn on the news, maybe the Weather Channel to be nonpartisan, and keep from looking stupider than usual. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/36 "2012-10-31T20:05:52Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Remember “Helluva job Brownie”? The slimey toad given the head of FEMA position, which Bush thought could be used as a patronage job? That worked fine until an actual disaster happened and Brownie was shown to be worse than useless. > > Well, Brownie’s now very upset whenever someone shows that they can be more on the ball at disaster management than him and his sugardaddy… > > Go back to horses, Brownie, maybe someone will let you shovel their shit. Bownie needs to STFU, GTFO, and DIAF. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Is Brownie a deep cover liberal? Because that’s the only explanation I can see for him reminding the public at this time what sort of emergency response to expect when a Republican is in the big chair. > > I think he may have just single-handedly flipped Florida to Obama. And NY, NJ, Conn, Mass, etc etc etc etc. Rememer, acording to Mittens, aid is immoral anyway. Hmmmmm ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/37 "2012-10-31T20:09:33Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sandy was a mild storm compared to Katrina, Rita, Ike, etc. False. Its storm winds tended to be a bit lower, but the topography of the East Coast meant the storm surges were often higher. In addition, while it was not as powerful in specific areas, it was a much broader storm, covering and harming a far larger area. Also, as those who paid attention to the actual reports will note, Sandy was not held out as a particularly bad storm, by itself, but was noted for the amount of damage that it would do, (and, of course, did) in conjunction with the storm front above the Great Lakes with which it collided. > [@Clothahump](#): > > Ghods forbid that the media should do something with integrity, like point out how Obama sat on his ass, let those people die, and then lied about it. Totally inaccurate depiction. The Republican controlled House had slashed funding for the portion of the budget that provides for defense of embassies. The remaining funds were apportioned according to estimated risks and Libya, having just overthrown Ghaddafi and with an ambassador that was extremely well liked by the Libyans, did not get the highest level of protection. So far, there is no evidence that the actual number of troops assigned to the Libyan embassy was even submitted to the president for review. (Such decisions are not made in the Oval Office.) I am afraid that you will have to go to S F or among the Freepers to get any traction with these tall tales. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/38 "2012-10-31T20:10:25Z")
> [@little nemo](#): > > people need to stop picking on brown. He’s almost ready to put his katrina plan into operation and when you see it, you’ll be forced to admit it’s impressive. roflmao!!! ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/39 "2012-10-31T20:32:42Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Perhaps you can explain how McCain would have turned away the storm? To be fair to **Clothahump** , I think he meant that the Benghazi attack would not have happened had McCain been president. I can only assume he means that Ghaddafi would still be in power and thus Chris Stevens would not have been in Benghazi in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389/40 "2012-10-31T21:03:55Z")
_ **OH!** _ Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. I was wondering the same thing myself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-brownie-youre-still-a-douchewaste/639389.md?page=3)