# Oh crap. The Gulf Stream is slowing.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-crap-the-gulf-stream-is-slowing/303704>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 13, 2005, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-crap-the-gulf-stream-is-slowing/303704 "2005-05-13T17:08:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-crap-the-gulf-stream-is-slowing/303704/21 "2005-05-13T18:27:12Z")

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I agree completely, but he appears to be saying folks in Briton should start stocking supplies for the next period of glaciation, the birth of which will start as early as 15 years from now, when the Gulf Stream conveyer completely collapses. None of these things are a certainty. Worth dealing with climate change seriously? Absolutely. But this guy is clearly talking about an accelerated worst-case scenerio, which is highly unlikely.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-crap-the-gulf-stream-is-slowing/303704/22 "2005-05-13T18:27:38Z")

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Wow, has the earth ever had an [ice age](http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/ice_age/) before? Were conservative Republicans to blame for [the others?](http://www.museum.state.il.us/exhibits/ice_ages/) According to [This Site](http://www.museum.state.il.us/exhibits/ice_ages/when_ice_ages.html),

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> If “ice age” is used to refer to long, generally cool, intervals during which glaciers advance and retreat, we are still in one today. Our modern climate represents a very short, warm period between glacial advances.

So global warming very well may be causing some of this most recent climatic change, but even [relatively small](http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/history/1816.htm) natural events can really screw up the weather world-wide. I’m not saying that we just throw greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere with reckless abandon, or that global warming isn’t an issue (I think it is, actually!), just that natural events that man cannot control happen with fair regularity.

The climate of this planet has been changing for a long time, a long time before man, even conservative Republican man, has been around. We may be altering the pattern of change to some degree, but all the liberal Democrats on the face of the planet won’t be able to stop an ice age when nature decides to throw one our way. Sorry guys.

I hope my cites weren’t too right wing.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-crap-the-gulf-stream-is-slowing/303704/23 "2005-05-13T19:21:40Z")

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We also must worry about the [Mongolian Death Worm.](http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4596)

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-crap-the-gulf-stream-is-slowing/303704/24 "2005-05-13T19:55:00Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> The guy may be off his nut, but the underlying point–that global warming is screwing us over–seems to be pretty valid.

This guy’s crazed Malthusian ramblings don’t have much of anything to do with global warming’s validity. It is to laugh. (aside: what the hell does “it is to laugh” mean anyway? That sentence makes no sense except taken as an idiom.)

Anyone want to bet me that the average temp in Great Britain will drop at least 5 degrees celsius over the next 25 years? I’ll even give you 4-1 odds.

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**Author:** ![Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spatial_Rift_47)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-crap-the-gulf-stream-is-slowing/303704/25 "2005-05-13T20:12:24Z")

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The fact that this article even _mentioned_ that horrific joke of a movie also sometimes known as _The Day After Tomorrow_ makes me question the credibility. Also, rather than simply report the results of the Cambridge scientists, the author goes on to build a case that an extremely sudden climate change is coming.

Speaking of those Cambridge scientists, what were their names? What was the title and focus of their project? What were their exact words on the subject? Oh right, the article didn’t have any of that. Zarquon forbid we actually quote or name our sources so that the readers can follow up and think for themselves. And, it gets better. He ends the article by advertising his own book! This is not journalism in any sense of the word.

Ok, so there is something going on here, as evidenced by the cited articles in CNN, the Times, etc, but there’s no way it’s as serious as this person makes it out to be. Bottom line, this article is not where you want to be getting your information about any would-be climate crises.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-crap-the-gulf-stream-is-slowing/303704/26 "2005-05-13T20:34:59Z")

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That’s an . . . interesting message board they’ve got over there. Check out this thread:  
[http://www.unknowncountry.com/board/messages/14303/17560.html?1115900243](http://www.unknowncountry.com/board/messages/14303/17560.html?1115900243)

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-crap-the-gulf-stream-is-slowing/303704/27 "2005-05-13T20:43:35Z")

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I don’t know why everyone is so worried; that same site says we’ll only have [one more Pope](http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4567) before the world ends.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-crap-the-gulf-stream-is-slowing/303704/28 "2005-05-13T20:46:51Z")

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Man is this thread title ever misleading. I thought this was going to be another freeway rant about being stuck behind one of [these](http://www.gulfstreamcoach.com/).

😃

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**Author:** ![Tupug\_Anachi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@Tupug\_Anachi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tupug_Anachi)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-crap-the-gulf-stream-is-slowing/303704/29 "2005-05-13T20:54:09Z")

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> [@UncleBeer](#):
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> That’s an . . . interesting message board they’ve got over there. Check out this thread:  
> [http://www.unknowncountry.com/board/messages/14303/17560.html?1115900243](http://www.unknowncountry.com/board/messages/14303/17560.html?1115900243)

Um…well…I suppose there has to be a message board for everybody, whack jobs included. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-crap-the-gulf-stream-is-slowing/303704/30 "2005-05-13T21:02:35Z")

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> [@Ponder Stibbons](#):
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> Man is this thread title ever misleading. I thought this was going to be another freeway rant about being stuck behind one of [these](http://www.gulfstreamcoach.com/).
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> 😃

The first thing I thought of was [this](http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/GENERAL_AVIATION/business/GA14G10.htm).

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-crap-the-gulf-stream-is-slowing/303704/31 "2005-05-13T21:36:47Z")

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> [@Spatial Rift 47](#):
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> Speaking of those Cambridge scientists, what were their names? What was the title and focus of their project? What were their exact words on the subject? Oh right, the article didn’t have any of that.

Yes you do. I’ve already provided the link. Keep on shooting a bullet-ridden messenger if you want, but it doesn’t make your point any stronger.

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**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2005, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-crap-the-gulf-stream-is-slowing/303704/32 "2005-05-13T21:48:29Z")

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Yeah, and maybe the Thames will make like it’s gonna actually feel like freezing over.

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