# Oh for FFS Republicans! Why don't you go home and put your big boy pants on?!

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**Created:** [December 31, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723 "2012-12-31T22:48:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/21 "2013-01-01T22:46:23Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Shit, I feel _sorry_ for Boehner. How weird is _that_?

You’re probably not going to like Speaker Cantor much, though.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/22 "2013-01-01T23:23:28Z")

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CNN Blog:

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> \*\*5:31 p.m. ET \*\* - The majority of Americans believe failure to reach a solution to the fiscal cliff would be a crisis or major problem. Two in ten said crisis and 50% said major problems in the latest CNN/ORC poll, conducted December 17-18. Only 24% say it would mean minor problems and 4% say no problems will result from going off of the cliff. Sampling error is plus or minus 4% points.
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> **5:49 p.m. ET –** House Republicans are now meeting to discuss options on the fiscal cliff bill. CNN’s Jessica Yellin reported earlier on Vice President Joe Biden’s efforts to rally Democrats to support the bill.
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> \*\*5:53 p.m. ET - \*\*The Senate has adjourned for the night and will reconvene Wednesday at noon.
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> \*\*6:09 p.m. ET - \*\*The White House is watching movement on Capitol Hill “very, very closely” tonight, CNN’s Jessica Yellin reports on “The Situation Room.”

[http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/01/latest-updates-house-readies-for-fiscal-cliff-vote/?hpt=hp\_t1](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/01/latest-updates-house-readies-for-fiscal-cliff-vote/?hpt=hp_t1)

See, if you don’t play nice you must remain after school. The rest of us are watching the Rose Bowl.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/23 "2013-01-01T23:33:50Z")

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I am just grateful this Congress isn’t the one in existence when the 13th amendment went up for vote. Because black folks likely would still be in chains.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/24 "2013-01-02T00:17:56Z")

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They’d still be arguing over the right of the government to ‘seize property’ by freeing slaves and whether this would unduly burden southern slaveholders.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/25 "2013-01-02T00:42:12Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> They’d still be arguing over the right of the government to ‘seize property’ by freeing slaves and whether this would unduly burden southern slaveholders.

You misspelled “small businesses” there.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/26 "2013-01-02T01:49:38Z")

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I don’t get it. The idea that they should vote against this deal because it’s not good enough.

YOU’RE NOT GOING TO GET WHAT YOU WANT.

There are no votes for your “give us everything we want or we keep throwing tantrums” demands, there never were, there are never going to be. Stop fucking living in your Tea Party Fantasy where you get what you want by refusing to compromise, because _that’s not the way Government works._

And ultimately, under the present circumstances, if you don’t vote for a compromise, **you lose everything**.

And sorry Bubba, but I’m not going to blame Obama for higher middle class taxes when you motherfuckers are the ones who refused to vote to keep them lower.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/27 "2013-01-02T02:33:28Z")

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Well, apparently _someone_ in the majority caucus has remembered that they actually have a job to do;

[QUOTE=CNN Politics Blog]  
8:02 p.m. ET — The House will vote Tuesday night on a Senate bill — an up or down vote without amendments — to avert the fiscal cliff, a senior House GOP leadership aide told CNN Senior Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash.  
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Vote expected before midnight. We’ll see which GOP congresscritters are still more interested in “stopping Obama” than in helping their constituents.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/28 "2013-01-02T02:39:43Z")

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They got an agreement to an up or down vote with no amendments? Who’d they have to threaten to kill to get that? :eek::eek:

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/29 "2013-01-02T03:16:00Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Vote expected before midnight. We’ll see which GOP congresscritters are still more interested in “stopping Obama” than in helping their constituents.

It has to be said:

That is finally democracy, democracy is not what I have seen a lot lately, that is the sorry spectacle of not voting on bills because there were not enough people going to vote on something, filibusters were not even the media bothers to report who was responsible specifically; lately the status quo consists on congrescritters making maneuvers to avoid facing any immediate criticism or pressure from the people to do the right thing.

\*\*It is bad enough that they are being ineffective, but I do think those obfuscations are worse because it does help them continue to be as ineffective as they can. \*\*

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/30 "2013-01-02T04:08:35Z")

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ABC News reporting that the bill passed.

Boehner voted for it.

Cantor voted against it.

Interesting times ahead.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/31 "2013-01-02T06:46:01Z")

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Since the majority of Republicans voted against it, and the most vocal were adamantly opposed, I wonder if Boehner will remain speaker. Isn’t that vote up in a few days?

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/32 "2013-01-02T07:28:16Z")

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I wonder if Boehner even _wants_ to be speaker any more. I won’t be surprised if he steps down voluntarily.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/33 "2013-01-02T07:38:12Z")

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They’re sworn in tomorrow (Thursday)

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/34 "2013-01-02T13:15:37Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> There are no votes for your “give us everything we want or we keep throwing tantrums” demands, there never were, there are never going to be. Stop fucking living in your Tea Party Fantasy where you get what you want by refusing to compromise, because _that’s not the way Government works._

Actually, it \*has \*been, for at least the last 2 years.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/35 "2013-01-02T13:34:36Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> > [@Chimera](#):
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> > There are no votes for your “give us everything we want or we keep throwing tantrums” demands, there never were, there are never going to be. Stop fucking living in your Tea Party Fantasy where you get what you want by refusing to compromise, because _that’s not the way Government works._
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> Actually, it \*has \*been, for at least the last 2 years.

Not by the definition of “works” that I use in everyday conversation.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/36 "2013-01-02T15:47:05Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Actually, it \*has \*been, for at least the last 2 years.

Ah - I must congratulate you on your reference to the rarely used definition of “To Work,” which means, “Does not work at all.”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/37 "2013-01-02T15:57:46Z")

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I meant that the Teabaggers have indeed been successful in achieving much of their goals via the tantrum process, and until now have had a right to expect continued success with it. That’s how the government has _operated_, if not exactly “worked”.

The question now is if Obama will continue act like a parent at a restaurant with a screaming child, trying placation after placation in the hope she’ll settle down, or if he’ll decide (finally) it can’t work and drag her out to the car, with the whole family abandoning their meals and following them.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
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If your goal is to not have government, then it has to be said that they’re making progress.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> The question now is if Obama will continue act like a parent at a restaurant with a screaming child, trying placation after placation in the hope she’ll settle down, or if he’ll decide (finally) it can’t work and drag her out to the car, with the whole family abandoning their meals and following them.

When I was a boy, if it had come to getting dragged out to the car the rest of the family would have remained at the table. Can’t be a witness to what you didn’t actually see, and all that. Which makes me wonder, why hasn’t Obama employed his [whuppin stick](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/05/obama-on-congress-ill-whup-em/) yet? That’d make for some interesting sessions. As soon as someone starts filibustering or playing whiny cryass, BO gets the stick and stands up, holds open the door, and motions for the offender to step into the hall for just a minute.

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**Author:** ![cuberdon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cuberdon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuberdon)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-for-ffs-republicans-why-dont-you-go-home-and-put-your-big-boy-pants-on/645723/40 "2013-01-02T19:42:15Z")

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And Boehner tells Reid to ‘Go f\*\*\* yourself’:

> **[Republican House leader John Boehner told Senate's top Democrat to 'Go f\*\*\*...](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2255930/Republican-House-leader-John-Boehner-tells-Senates-Democrat-Go-f-k-yourself.html)**
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> House Speaker John Boehner twice told Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to 'go f\*\*k' himself last Friday after a meeting at the White House on a budget compromise to avert the fiscal cliff.

Don’t omit reading the comments. A surprising number support Boehner. Stay classy, guys.

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