# Oh Fox News, You Silly, Silly, Silly Network **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 17, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762 "2009-03-17T15:49:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/1 "2009-03-17T15:49:55Z")
I was almost tempted to put this in MPSIMS, because discussing another one of FOX News misdeeds is becoming, how should I say, routine and boring. But, alas, I think the doodyheads over there deserve to be pitted for the latest atrocity on common sense. Follow me through the rabbit hole of FOX reality: Over at [Media Matters](http://mediamatters.org/items/200903160026) they have a story about how FOX News was trying to weave a tale of how the Obama Administration is now trying to be more upbeat about the economy. Now that in of itself is quit ehumorous given the criticism the Administration had been taken by the right for being too negative. But I digress. So the story is purporting to show sound bites of Administration officials\ sounding more positive, including Joe Biden saying: > [@](#): > > The fundamentals of the economy are strong. Wait, what? Biden said that? Oh the hypocrisy! Because when McCain said that he was lambasted. The FOX anchors were quick to point it our, even contrasting it with McCain’s comment. Gotha ya! Except one tiny problem, Biden didn’t say that this weekend. He said it on September 15, 2008…on the campaign trail…and he was quoting McCain. You dirty filthy pieces of manure. Pawning off old clips, out of context and misleading as new news makes me not so angry that I may spit the bit, so to speak. Oh how I hate those fucking assholes. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/2 "2009-03-17T15:52:03Z")
Pitting Fox News is like pitting Burger King for making shitty sandwiches. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/3 "2009-03-17T15:57:18Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > … FOX News … I think this is an oxymoron. Or a collection of morons. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/4 "2009-03-17T16:14:51Z")
Media Matters link no work. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/5 "2009-03-17T16:19:04Z")
[Fixed Link](http://mediamatters.org/items/200903160026) ---
**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/6 "2009-03-17T16:19:15Z")
Clip have extra character. You try this one: [http://mediamatters.org/items/200903160026](http://mediamatters.org/items/200903160026) ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/7 "2009-03-17T16:21:05Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Pitting Fox News is like pitting Burger King for making shitty sandwiches. Yeah, well, I don’t expect them to do **good** journalism, but I have to say I’m a little startled to see them peddling deliberate, documented, barefaced deception as journalism. I couldn’t get the OP’s link to work, but [this one](http://mediamatters.org/items/200903160026) says: > [@](#): > > Fox News’ Martha MacCallum claimed that “after weeks of economic doom and gloom, the Obama administration is now singing a slightly different tune. Take a look at what was said in recent interviews this weekend.” Fox News then aired clips of administration officials purportedly giving an optimistic view of the economy, which included video of Joe Biden stating: “The fundamentals of the economy are strong.” However, Biden did not make those remarks during an “interview” over the past weekend; he made those remarks at a September 2008 campaign event in which he criticized statements by John McCain. Lemme get this straight. The nice well-groomed lady in the TV set, on the news show—the professional journalist, the person claiming to provide information to the public about what’s going on in the world—announces that they’ll show some interviews from this weekend where administration members express their opinions about the current state of the economy. And then they show footage of the Vice-President **quoting somebody else six months earlier**. :eek: Even for yellow journalism, that’s a little too _Pravda_-esque. Have they simply decided “Well screw this wussy plausible-deniability stunt, we’ll just flat-out make shit up and not care if we’re caught. Hey, it works for Limbaugh”? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/8 "2009-03-17T16:21:21Z")
Thanks guys. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/9 "2009-03-17T17:26:22Z")
Here’s the [Think Progress](http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/16/fox-news-fundamentals/) link of the dishonest clip. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/10 "2009-03-17T17:48:23Z")
I was just thinking about what would happen if I pulled my own version of this stunt here on the boards. If I quoted a snippet of Poster A’s post that was quoting Poster B, but instead I deliberately said “originally posted by Poster A” under the guise that anything in that post has technically been “posted” by A. What would happen is that I’d be warned by the moderators, my post edited to reflect the truth, and I’d face a banning if I attempted it again. And I have to laugh because that’s how it should be. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/11 "2009-03-17T17:50:59Z")
It’s been a full day. Has Fox or that MacCallum bint acknowledged this at all? ---
**Author:** ![Fritz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c57346/32.png) [@Fritz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fritz)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/12 "2009-03-17T20:12:44Z")
They apologized (wonders never cease): MacCALLUM: _Yesterday during a segment on the recent change in tone from President Obama’s economic team, we inadvertently used a piece of video of Vice President Biden saying “the fundamentals of the economy are strong.” This video was from the campaign trail when the vice president was a candidate and was actually quoting Sen. John McCain. When we get something wrong we admit it. We did so yesterday, and for that we apologize._ ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/13 "2009-03-17T20:21:01Z")
Ok, so at least they apologized for it, but I don’t see how it could have been inadvertent. Somebody had to intentionally crop that clip and then intentionally insert into the package. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/14 "2009-03-17T20:27:59Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Ok, so at least they apologized for it, but I don’t see how it could have been inadvertent. Somebody had to intentionally crop that clip and then intentionally insert into the package. They’re hoping you’re the only person who notices that… ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/15 "2009-03-17T20:28:07Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Ok, so at least they apologized for it, but I don’t see how it could have been inadvertent. Somebody had to intentionally crop that clip and then intentionally insert into the package. They inadvertently got caught. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/16 "2009-03-17T20:28:22Z")
The plan in 2010 is to put the word “Democrat” under every Republican candidate, and vice versa. Every once in a while one of their drones will pop in and say, “Oops, we goofed. We just don’t know what to do with our graphics people.” Oddly enough, no one will suggest firing them. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/17 "2009-03-17T20:29:29Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Pitting Fox News is like pitting Burger King for making shitty sandwiches. Yeah, but millions of people don’t mindlessly consume Bur… oh, wait. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/18 "2009-03-17T20:43:27Z")
Well, good on Fox for apologizing and retracting. And good on the people who noticed what they did and pointed it out. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/19 "2009-03-17T22:25:27Z")
And good on Jon Stewart for, no doubt, having some fresh non-CNBC material for tonight. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762/20 "2009-03-17T22:29:23Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > And good on Jon Stewart for, no doubt, having some fresh non-CNBC material for tonight. That was my immediate thought. 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fox-news-you-silly-silly-silly-network/489762.md?page=2)