# Oh, fuck off, Boris Johnson.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 28, 2019, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355 "2019-08-28T11:53:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/121 "2019-09-04T01:24:13Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Man. Our Congress is fucking _boring_.

The part of me that is interested in politics in the abstract, and indeed the idea that the current situation will be a major historical event, finds it fascinating. It’s a shame about the sheer terror though.

> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> On the other hand, BoJo the Clown doesn’t seem to generate anywhere near Trumpian levels of explosive Twitterrhea.

For all that’s wrong with Boris, he is at least literate.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/122 "2019-09-04T21:22:56Z")

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MP’s to Boris:

“Fuck off, no election for you”

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/123 "2019-09-05T00:57:19Z")

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That’s an awful lot of failure packed into what, just 2 or 3 days?

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/124 "2019-09-05T06:38:56Z")

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> [@romansperson](#):
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> That’s an awful lot of failure packed into what, just 2 or 3 days?

He’s certainly setting records. Hopefully he’ll break Canning’s record while he’s at it.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/125 "2019-09-05T15:50:13Z")

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An idea came to me when I was out on the bike today. I thought,\* I bet someone must have said that already\* - but so far as I can tell from googling, nobody has. So I will.

It was after Boris’ [pathetic tirade in the House of Commons](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49593110), where he called Jeremy Corbyn “a big girl’s blouse”.

**You can take the fat, overgrown schoolboy out of the playground, but you can’t take the playground out of the the fat, overgrown schoolboy.**

j

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**Author:** ![ticker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@ticker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ticker)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/126 "2019-09-05T16:19:48Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> **You can take the fat, overgrown schoolboy out of the playground, but you can’t take the playground out of the the fat, overgrown schoolboy.**

Do toffs have playgrounds? Eton is famous for its playing _fields_ where the Battle of Waterloo was ostensibly won.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/127 "2019-09-05T19:08:43Z")

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> [@ticker](#):
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> Do toffs have playgrounds?

Quadrangles, dear boy.

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**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/128 "2019-09-05T22:39:12Z")

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[Another voice](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-johnson-jo/uk-pm-johnsons-brother-quits-parliament-torn-between-family-loyalty-and-national-interest-idUSKCN1VQ1BN) joins the chorus of “Fuck off.” Boris’s brother quits Parliament as he just can’t stand it anymore. He’s apparently a Remainer, and so is their sister and father!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/129 "2019-09-06T01:50:40Z")

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> [@Toxgoddess](#):
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> [Another voice](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-johnson-jo/uk-pm-johnsons-brother-quits-parliament-torn-between-family-loyalty-and-national-interest-idUSKCN1VQ1BN) joins the chorus of “Fuck off.” Boris’s brother quits Parliament as he just can’t stand it anymore. He’s apparently a Remainer, and so is their sister and father!

Their sister and father are the same person? Wow! And people make jokes about us Southerners. 😉

On a serious note: why hasn’t this latest debacle been enough to force an election?

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/130 "2019-09-06T03:32:14Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> On a serious note: why hasn’t this latest debacle been enough to force an election?

Can’t find the article again, but apparently both sides kind of want another election, but aren’t sure if it should be before or after Parliament votes on some form of Brexit delay/approval/???

And also, there is a fear that an election would put the Labour guy (Corbyn?) in as PM, and apparently even a lot of the Labour folks think that is a bad idea.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/131 "2019-09-06T04:11:54Z")

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> [@ticker](#):
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> Do toffs have playgrounds? Eton is famous for its playing _fields_ where the Battle of Waterloo was ostensibly won.

\*Really \*long range artillery, you Brits had. Explains things.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/132 "2019-09-06T11:09:50Z")

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[Boris Johnson: ‘I’d rather be dead in a ditch’ than ask for Brexit delay.](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-49601128/boris-johnson-i-d-rather-be-dead-in-a-ditch-than-ask-for-brexit-delay)

Something else that I expected someone else to have said by now, but…

I’ll eschew the obvious and simply observe: given his record so far as Prime Minister, ending up dead in a ditch sounds like overachieving.

Don’t set the bar too high, Boris!

j

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/133 "2019-09-06T11:21:18Z")

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Many posts on this thread consist of 5 words three of which are fuck, any post from either side longer than a sentence is dismissed as a rant, and a newcomer’s first post is damned as an only post. This is my first foray into online debate, “fuck off,Boris Johnson” ? I should have known. Stew in your own bile.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/134 "2019-09-06T11:32:20Z")

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> [@Webfoot75](#):
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> Many posts on this thread consist of 5 words three of which are fuck, any post from either side longer than a sentence is dismissed as a rant, and a newcomer’s first post is damned as an only post. This is my first foray into online debate, “fuck off,Boris Johnson” ? I should have known. Stew in your own bile.

Is that you, Jacob Rees-Mogg? Go back to sleep, you wanker.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/135 "2019-09-06T11:33:00Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> On a serious note: why hasn’t this latest debacle been enough to force an election?

Found a [different article](https://www.vox.com/2019/9/5/20849086/uk-brexit-fixed-term-parliament) explaining this.

Apparently without bothering to make sure Americans were aware of the change, the UK changed the rules of parliament, and a 2/3 super-majority is required to call an election inside a 5-year window starting at the last election. Labour/Corbyn is afraid it wouldn’t win, so won’t agree to the election.

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/136 "2019-09-06T18:16:53Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Can’t find the article again, but apparently both sides kind of want another election, but aren’t sure if it should be before or after Parliament votes on some form of Brexit delay/approval/???
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> And also, there is a fear that an election would put the Labour guy (Corbyn?) in as PM, and apparently even a lot of the Labour folks think that is a bad idea.

Fight the ignorance of a benighted Yank. Why do people hate Corbyn? He can’t be worse than Johnson, can he?

And if he is why do Labour keep him?

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/137 "2019-09-06T18:19:50Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> . Labour/Corbyn is afraid it wouldn’t win, so won’t agree to the election.

No, that’s a Johnson talking point. It’s false.

[Opposition parties agree to block election until Brexit delay secured](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/06/opposition-parties-agree-block-snap-election-until-brexit-delay-secured)

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**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/138 "2019-09-06T19:21:00Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Is that you, Jacob Rees-Mogg? Go back to sleep, you wanker.

Unlikely. That guy is still annoyed that this new fangled device called “telephone” has come into general use, when everyone has sufficient lower class boys to act as messenge carriers.  
No way he shows up on the internet.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-off-boris-johnson/839355/139 "2019-09-06T20:08:51Z")

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> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> No, that’s a Johnson talking point. It’s false.
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> [Opposition parties agree to block election until Brexit delay secured](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/06/opposition-parties-agree-block-snap-election-until-brexit-delay-secured)

Yes. Corbyn has outright stated numerous times that he wants a general election. But having one _now_ would guarantee no deal. That’s why Boris suggested it.

And Boris is fucking up more and more every day, so waiting might not be a bad idea. He has a lot of support from people who hate the EU, but lot of Tories also dislike him strongly. Theresa May also had some sympathy from lots of quarters in the last election, because she hadn’t even campaigned in favour of Brexit but took on the task when those responsible had run away, and she often looked quite distraught. Even I felt some sympathy for her sometimes and had to remind myself of all the shitty policies she’d pushed through. Boris is still blustering, and he’s one of the main drivers behind Brexit to begin with.

FWIW, when looking up something I came across [this](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-49578000) short BBC article explaining a few terms (though I think US Dopers know what filibustering is) and it’s worth a click just for the photo at the end of a member of the House of Lords taking bedding in to help him get through a filibuster. This is because they don’t actually stop debating, they keep going for at least a couple of days, as far as I can tell, so filibustering is more difficult if there are people really determined not to let it happen.

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