# "Oh, fuck you!"

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 1, 1999, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261 "1999-09-01T10:24:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Byzantine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@Byzantine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Byzantine)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/1 "1999-09-01T10:24:00Z")

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Got your attention? Good. Let’s rock!

“You know, I’m so sick of your massive bullshit that I just throw my hands up in the air and fall back on the worst thing I can think of, the most foul, base word I can think of, to get your attention.”

“Over what?”

“Over the bad typing I see and read out here! God damn it all to hell! There is a thing called spelling. Check it out, get a dictionary if you have problems. There’s a thing called capitalization. Don’t know when to use it? Again, check the dictionary!”

“Wow, you seem so upset, what else bothers you?”

“The fact that some people can’t seem to put a break into their rambling. Give us a paragraph break here and there otherwise it’s just a bunch of random thoughts.”

Thank you so much for reading this. If nothing else my soul feels purged and I welcome, nay, WANT any and every slam you can think of. Let me have it, folks!

This message has been brought to you by the LEARN TO TYPE club.

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The moon looks on many flowers, the flowers on but one moon.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/2 "1999-09-01T12:12:00Z")

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I know exactly what you mean.  
I just love the “Ignorance is a form of expression” clique. They claim that any correction of their pre-school writing abilities is some sort of censorship from us elitists. Some even claim that such “style” of writing is a form of poetry, under the mistaken impression that poetry could mean that one could disconnect the brain from the mouth and be applauded for it.  
Before any of you scream at me about First Amendment rights, I’ll remind you that 1. The First Amendment concerns GOVERNMENT action against speech, and 2. I’m just expressing MY First Amendment rights by protesting illiteracy.

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### Author: ![kellibelli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@kellibelli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kellibelli)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/3 "1999-09-01T12:19:00Z")

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relax oh anal ones…some of this stuff you refer to are simple typos. I get going fast, and mis a key, or spell 'and as ‘adn’ its not illeteracy, its just that I have stuff to say, and limited time.

you want a fight dontcha???

You jerks probably correct peoples grammar when talking face to face too…you big grammer people…(?)  
oh hell…that wasnt very forceful.

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### Author: ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/4 "1999-09-01T13:19:00Z")

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Personally, I pity people who are not capable of using good grammar, especially on this board. To me, it indicates a lack of sophistication, education or interest in communicating clearly. It’s hard for me to take your ideas seriously if you don’t take them seriously enough to present them well.

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### Author: ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/5 "1999-09-01T13:39:00Z")

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I agree with Frank–I make as many typos as anyone. But I think that consistent poor spelling and grammer is a good clue to the kind of person you’re dealing with. It’s true, when someone makes a good arguement but coaches it like a third-grader, I tend to discount their opnions, at least a bit.

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### Author: ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/6 "1999-09-01T13:40:00Z")

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Oops, umm, “grammar.” Is MY face red!

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### Author: ![bj0rn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@bj0rn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bj0rn)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/7 "1999-09-01T13:44:00Z")

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yeah, then im a person to pick on.  
i dont use capital letters, i dont much fancy  
paragraphs after every stop…hell, im not even an english speaking person. beat that you monsters!

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### Author: ![AuraSeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AuraSeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuraSeer)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/8 "1999-09-01T13:47:00Z")

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yeh i agree with yu

yu culd talk reely good ideas but if yu spel like loverock or B1FF peepl wil think yu r stupd

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### Author: ![middsy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@middsy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middsy)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/9 "1999-09-01T15:42:00Z")

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Yanks,

Use the Oxford English Dictionary for future spellings, you will then hopefully put S’s where you normally put Z’s and I will understand, oh and you’re all a bunch of katchibawls.

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### Author: ![CatInHat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@CatInHat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInHat)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/10 "1999-09-01T16:22:00Z")

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This thread reminds me of a conversation that I had with a bookstore clerk a few years ago. I had called the bookstore to ask them if they carried a certain magazine. The clerk put me on hold to check their computer. When she came back, she told me that “We don’t have no record of this magazine.” !!??!?!

I guess literacy is optional for bookstore clerks at major national chains.

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The Cat In The Hat

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### Author: ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/11 "1999-09-01T16:28:00Z")

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Umm, Middsy, “it is to be hoped,” not “hopefully.”

[mentally insert smiley face here at your discretion]

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### Author: ![ChrisCTP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@ChrisCTP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisCTP)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/12 "1999-09-01T16:35:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> You jerks probably correct peoples grammar when talking face to face too

Yes, in fact, I do. 🙂

Here we go…

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> relax oh anal ones…some of this stuff you refer to are simple typos. I get going fast, and mis a key, or spell 'and as ‘adn’ its not illeteracy, its just that I have stuff to say, and limited time.  
> you want a fight dontcha???
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> You jerks probably correct peoples grammar when talking face to face too…you big grammer people…(?)  
> oh hell…that wasnt very forceful.

Chris’ correction:  
Relax, O Anal Ones, some of the things to which you’re making reference are simply typographical errors. When I am rapidly typing, occasionally I miss a key, or misspell “and” as “adn”. I don’t believe my problem to be illiteracy, but simply a case of having much to say, and little time in which to say it.

You want a fight, don’t you?

You jerks probably correct other people’s grammar when conversing face-to-face, too. You big…grammar people…(?)  
(Oh, hell, that wasn’t very forceful, was it?)

## (I just wanted to have a little fun with you, Kellibelli.) 🙂

Veni, Vidi, Visa … I came, I saw, I bought.

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### Author: ![Frankie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/258eb7/32.png) [@Frankie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frankie)
#### Post date: [September 2, 1999, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/13 "1999-09-02T05:01:00Z")

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Grammar Police-  
There is a point where the posters lack of ability to write impairs your ability to understand the post. But I think it is a bit much to consider improper usage to be a sign of ignorance. I am not a writer. I have never hoped to be a writer and probably more importantly i am not an editor. So relax and read for the thoughts not for the grammar.  
If it gets to the point where you can’t understand the post thats one thing. But please I know you are smart enough to realize that “adn” is “and” and that “i” is “I”  
Thank you and lighten up!

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### Author: ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)
#### Post date: [September 2, 1999, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/14 "1999-09-02T05:14:00Z")

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My biggest pet peeve: If you’re going to write a really, really long post, put in paragraph breaks with a blank line between. When I see a 6-inch block of post with no paragraph or line breaks, I immediately skip it, regardless of who wrote it.

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### Author: ![VegForLife](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9de0a6/32.png) [@VegForLife](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VegForLife)
#### Post date: [September 2, 1999, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/15 "1999-09-02T05:22:00Z")

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Frankie, I agree with your point. I have to ask, though: how often have you seen anyone correct or berate anyone for typing “adn” instead of “and”?

I think most of the people here who are vocal about grammar, syntax, spelling, etc., are only vocal when the post becomes difficult to understand (or when the poster does something stupid, like type, “I never mispell anything!”).

Rich

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### Author: ![Frankie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/258eb7/32.png) [@Frankie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frankie)
#### Post date: [September 2, 1999, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/16 "1999-09-02T05:30:00Z")

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Veg-  
That is the entire point of this thread. Byzantine starts off complaining about misspellings and capitalization. So yes I have heard someone complain about it!

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### Author: ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/17 "1999-09-01T18:39:00Z")

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Add me to the list of people who skip posts without paragraphs. There is nothing more irritating to try and read than that. It is an instant tipoff to a bad writer.

However, I am a poor typist, I freely admit. I’m sorry, I try, but that’s life. (I would say that 99.9% of the errors I make have to do with my fumbling fingers, not my fumbling brain.)

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I am #1. Everyone else is #2 or lower.

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### Author: ![ChiefScott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@ChiefScott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChiefScott)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/18 "1999-09-01T18:42:00Z")

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I try to proofread every post before sending it out. What I search for are inadvertant mistakes which can be capitalized on for humor.

If particularly frustrated, I will resort to grammatical retorts.

Tough noogies.

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### Author: ![E1skeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3da27b/32.png) [@E1skeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E1skeptic)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/19 "1999-09-01T18:51:00Z")

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Thank you, thank you, thank you!

For some of us is not easy to understand the meaning of a whole sentence when the words are mispelled, like “there” instead of “their”.

Unfortunately not all of us have English as our first language, and it can be hard to properly grasp the ideas behind some posts, especially when there’s sarcasm or a concealed meaning in them. (I should know, even Nicrz has “slashed” me for my lack of understanding. _I’m learning, Nick, I’m learning_)

I see nothing wrong with properly writing and thus, **communicating** , our ideas. We’d be saving a lot of energy by NOT misinterpreting someone else’s posts.

Now, please, correct me if I’m wrong (which is very often, I know).

E1.

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### Author: ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)
#### Post date: [September 1, 1999, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/20 "1999-09-01T18:52:00Z")

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Frankie:

I think grammar, capatalization, punctuation and paragraphing are marks of courtesy, intelligence and education. Theoretically, these are things that we value on this board.

When I see a post without caps or punctuation, I think one of two things:

1. How affected. The e.e. cummings, joe sensitive, encounter group no caps thing was really happenin’ in about 1974. OR

2. Hey, there’s a post from somebody who can’t be bothered to use his shift key. Since this person can’t take the time to use the rules of grammar that we all learned in sixth grade, I don’t think I’ll bother to take the time to read their post.

Clear, precise language presented legibly promotes credibility.

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“Owls will deafen us with their incessant hooting!” W. Smithers

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