# "Oh, fuck you!"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 1, 1999, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261 "1999-09-01T10:24:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 1999, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/41 "1999-09-02T16:11:00Z")

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OK, ellis, take a peek into the Bible and see if you can figure out whether it is a name or a job title. Here are a few clues to keep in mind: “Yahweh,” “Jehovah,” “Adonai,” “I am the LORD your God.” Anyway, that part of this discussion is inconsequential; suffice to say that within the constraints of the Judeo-Christian religion, his name is not “God.”

In any case, to start with, “caps” may be an abbreviation, but it is perfectly acceptable in both spoken and written communication, particularly in the media/broadcasting/publishing worlds. Simply avoiding capitalizing any words, especially at the beginnings of sentences, is rarely considered a good communication skill anywhere. It’s simply lazy. I can’t imagine that it takes any serious effort or expenditure or energy to hit the “Shift” key. And, in fact, I nearly always skip posts by posters who don’t use it.

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**Author:** ![ellis555](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e36b37/32.png) [@ellis555](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ellis555)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 1999, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/42 "1999-09-02T16:57:00Z")

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well, pldennison, i still fail to see why not pressing the “shift” key is any lazier than not taking the time to type out “two.”

Now, if you’d simply taken the same tack as Frankd6, and answered my question civily, I might have taken the (admittedly minor) time to use capital letters in addressing your points. Instead, you were an asshole and tried to show off your “superior” intellect. I asked a simple question. I realize that this is the Pit, but it didn’t seem to be a very flame-filled thread. Therefore, I don’t think it was too far-fetched for me to expect a civil reply. Instead, you responded with a flame, and a poorly thought-out one at that. Next time, proof-read before you post if you’re trying to look smarter than another member of the Teeming Millions.

ellis

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**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 1999, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/43 "1999-09-03T05:04:00Z")

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ellis, I didn’t flame you, and I’m not Frank, so don’t frigging tell me to write like him. When you get flamed, you’ll know it.

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**Author:** ![VegForLife](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9de0a6/32.png) [@VegForLife](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VegForLife)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 1999, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/44 "1999-09-03T05:41:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> well, pldennison, i still fail to see  
> why not pressing the “shift” key is any  
> lazier than not taking the time to type  
> out"two."

Because “two” and “2” are visually equal,  
while the absence of a capital letter at  
the beginning of a sentence forces the  
reader to do a double-take if they missed  
the period in between. You are therefore  
being lazy in that you are forcing your  
reader to work harder at understanding you  
than you worked in the first place.

Rich

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**Author:** ![Byzantine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@Byzantine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Byzantine)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 1999, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/45 "1999-09-02T18:08:00Z")

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“Byz, keep in mind that I consider “fuck you” a pleasant invitation,” TennHippie said, his voice weak with longing.

“Again, fuck you,” Byzantine whispered.

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The moon looks on many flowers, the flowers on but one moon.

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**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 1999, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/46 "1999-09-02T18:14:00Z")

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Nyah, Nyah, Nyah Phil! I’m more civil than YOU!!! HA HA ha ha HA HA!

AND I’m a better writer! That’s pretty high praise from a guy who won’t capitalize.

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“Owls will deafen us with their incessant hooting!” W. Smithers

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**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 1999, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/47 "1999-09-02T18:49:00Z")

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Yeah, Frank, but you’re ugly and your mother dresses you funny.

I, on the other hand, am merely ugly. Or, I shall be sober in the morning. Or something to that effect.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 1999, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/48 "1999-09-03T13:36:00Z")

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(trembling with anticipation)  
Byz, hope you don’t mind that i don’t always  
use caps. i hear it’s not the size of the “I”  
that matters, anyway.  
(he gasps eagerly)

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**Author:** ![GOD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/34f0e0/32.png) [@GOD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GOD)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 1999, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/49 "1999-09-03T14:30:00Z")

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Call me GOD, god, Goddess, Yahweh, Allah, Shiva H. Vishnu, I don’t care! Just **call** me!

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 1999, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/50 "1999-09-04T05:23:00Z")

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Veg, if someone is “missing a period” as a result of this board, it would be something for the record books! 😉

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**Author:** ![ellis555](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e36b37/32.png) [@ellis555](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ellis555)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 1999, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/51 "1999-09-04T05:31:00Z")

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well, pldennison, it looks like GOD doesn’t particularly care what s/he is called, now does it? and, in any case, if you’d look a little more closely, you’d notice an “and such” in my first post, which would cover nicely your complaint that God is not a proper name.

while you’re pondering this (“Why yes, ellis, I did make a mistake”), you might get around to answering a few of the points i raised about your post.

and, finally, if that wasn’t a flame, does that mean that you’re just a confrontational asshole naturally? or were you just trying to work off a little anger after the sheep turned down your advances?

ellis

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**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 1999, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/52 "1999-09-04T05:48:00Z")

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Whatever, ellis. I’m still curious as to exactly how much time and energy is supposedly expended hitting “Shift.” The only conclusion I can draw from your dodge is that you are one lazy motherfucker.

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**Author:** ![Byzantine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@Byzantine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Byzantine)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 1999, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/53 "1999-09-05T05:56:00Z")

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Byzantine whispered to TennHippie:  
I’ve heard the expression “Eyes as big as dinner plates”  
and I’ve heard “An eye for an I”  
So if you combine the two  
“I as big as dinner plates”  
It makes for an interesting statement about your “I”

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**Author:** ![ellis555](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e36b37/32.png) [@ellis555](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ellis555)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 1999, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/54 "1999-09-04T19:55:00Z")

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lazy? maybe. but civil, at least. you might try it some time.

ellis

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 1999, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/55 "1999-09-05T04:53:00Z")

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There once was a writer named Byz  
Who at flirting was quite a whiz.  
Not sure of her bent,  
Or which way she went,  
I said “If you want, please call me Liz.”

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**Author:** ![Pooch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dbc845/32.png) [@Pooch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pooch)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 1999, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/56 "1999-09-05T08:53:00Z")

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there once was a siren with green eyes  
who chastised me 'bout big and little i’s  
she’d said she’d bend over  
in a field of irish clover  
if only i’d capitalize

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 1999, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/57 "1999-09-05T13:30:00Z")

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You’re worried about the time/energy to use the shift key? Hey, how about the time needed to use vowels? nd gnrlly u cn ndrstnd xctly wht I’m typng w/out mst f thm.

It’s not just ability to understand, it’s ability to EASILY understand. I rarely correct grammar on these Boards, but I am sympathetic to the argument that one should try to make one’s writings easily understood by others.

That’s especially true if we have posters here for whom English is a second language. It’s difficult enough for them, why make it harder by using poor grammar or by misspelling?

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 1999, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/58 "1999-09-05T18:18:00Z")

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I’m an articulate feller,  
But my girlfriend’s a terrible speller.  
She “cybers” quite well,  
Though her English is hell,  
And I’m too distracted to tell’er.

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**Author:** ![Pooch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dbc845/32.png) [@Pooch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pooch)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 1999, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/59 "1999-09-05T18:38:00Z")

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dere wuz dis kid from brooklyn  
whoze english wuz badder den it shudda been  
he met byzantine  
she put a Cap in his Knee  
now he limps, but his english is improvin

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**Author:** ![Byzantine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@Byzantine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Byzantine)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 1999, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-fuck-you/2261/60 "1999-09-06T05:48:00Z")

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Let me make my position quite clear  
I hold all of you here very dear  
your words and your thoughts  
some pitiful, some snots  
but your examples of grammar I fear

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