# Oh good Lord!!!! Not Nipples!!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 1, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662 "2011-12-01T03:26:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/201 "2011-12-06T22:54:59Z")
> [@mister\_nyx](#): > > …It’s the sort of thing that could have and should have just died a quick death and been forgotten. That’s the type of thinking that assumes you know what is right for everyone. > [@](#): > > I’m now actually more puzzled by the small cadre of people (including the author of the first thread) who are so intent on trying to argue everyone else into agreeing that there was nothing odd or creepy about the thread in the first place. So, in any debate, the side that disagrees with you is just “arguing” and your side is “correct”? Seriously? > [@](#): > > It’s like they’re convinced that they can use their immense powers of what I assume they imagine to be rationality to “disprove” people’s emotional responses. Actually, most of the debate has been centered around the trigger for that emotional response. Two primary ones have been proposed: Context - wrong message board for that. Content - as in not within the bounds of “normal” sexuality > [@](#): > > I’m starting to picture neckbeards being stroked as their owners nod in satisfaction at being above the “mundanes” and their “social norms”. Do you really think this? Isn’t it possible that some of the things we’ve posted have some validity? > [@](#): > > Read more carefully and you’ll note that the person you’re replying to thought that discretely admiring a shapely ass was normal, which I don’t think anyone here, of any gender, would disagree with. Me read more carefully? You are seriously making me laugh. Go back and read the post of mine you quoted and then re-read your response. I am and was fully aware of what that poster wrote in his/her post. Is there somewhere in my post that indicates I didn’t understand? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/202 "2011-12-06T22:56:52Z")
> [@mister\_nyx](#): > > God _damn_ are you whiny. Quit exaggerating, no one demanded anything of the sort from you, but you’re making it more and more clear that there is something wrong with you in that you can’t just let it go and accept that your poll wasn’t a good idea. I rest my case. > [@](#): > > And this is pretty much openly confirming my speculations about neckbeards preening in delight at being too “smart” for social norms. I don’t know about that, but one thing is certain, I am too smart for _you_. ---
**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/203 "2011-12-06T23:06:52Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > That’s the type of thinking that assumes you know what is right for everyone. Yes, I probably do. > [@](#): > > So, in any debate, the side that disagrees with you is just “arguing” and your side is “correct”? > > Seriously? No. In _this_ debate, in which a cursory examination of the actual poll responses and the posts responding to the original poll ended up so unequivocal, there is no point in arguing further. Now you and Fear Itself are trying to basically generate such a flurry of posts as to overwhelm the discussion because most of the people who were creeped out are not interested in continuing to defend against you guys’ implication that their response to the poll was incorrect. > [@](#): > > Actually, most of the debate has been centered around the trigger for that emotional response. Two primary ones have been proposed: > > Context - wrong message board for that. > Content - as in not within the bounds of “normal” sexuality Again, an example of your failure to really even understand what’s going on, which I think is why that other poster wondered if you had a pervasive developmental disorder. > [@](#): > > Do you really think this? At this point, absolutely. > [@](#): > > Me read more carefully? Yes. You did not read his post carefully enough and you drew a conclusion that was insupportable. > [@](#): > > You are seriously making me laugh. This goes back to confirm what I said about preening over some imagined superiority to the regular people who aren’t as “rational” as you. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/204 "2011-12-06T23:26:47Z")
> [@mister\_nyx](#): > > This goes back to confirm what I said about preening over some imagined superiority to the regular people who aren’t as “rational” as you. Holy shit dude! You are seriously making me laugh - you are getting more worked up and less coherent every second. You don’t work at the post office do you? ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/205 "2011-12-06T23:34:44Z")
[Quote=RaftPeople] Actually, most of the debate has been centered around the trigger for that emotional response. Two primary ones have been proposed: Context - wrong message board for that. Content - as in not within the bounds of “normal” sexuality [/quote] > [@mister nyx](#): > > Again, an example of your failure to really even understand what’s going on, which I think is why that other poster wondered if you had a pervasive developmental disorder. Ok, this is a serious post, no need to respond to the “post office” post. I would be interested in reading your explanation as to why I don’t understand what is going on. The two items listed above have been mentioned by other posters (not the exact words, but a substantially similar meaning) - so it’s not like I just made them up. ---
**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/206 "2011-12-07T06:21:54Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > Holy shit dude! You are seriously making me laugh - you are getting more worked up and less coherent every second. > > You don’t work at the post office do you? I don’t know why you think I’m worked up. I’m more puzzled at this point. You and Fear Itself seem inexplicably driven to convince yourselves that the original poll was a perfectly normal thing to do. And you’re trying to prove this by asking questions even though the original thread was enough to make it clear what the target crowd’s consensus on it was. It’s like a kid getting an answer from mom that he doesn’t want and then asking it over and over in hopes that it’ll change next time. I’m sorry you don’t understand why the thread went over badly and I’m sorry that you can’t understand the numerous explanations other people have offered. The original thread answered all these questions. ---
**Author:** ![Clark\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@Clark\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clark_K)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/207 "2011-12-07T06:56:07Z")
This reminds me of a scene from “NYPD Blue” where the detectives are interviewing a man who spends _a lot_ of time at strip clubs. (I’d say “way too much time,” but I don’t want **RaftPeople** to think I am making unsupported judgments about the norms of appropriate time spent in gentlemen’s clubs.) Anyway, the strip-club patron reveals that he has thoroughly studied women’s breasts and developed a detailed system of nomenclature to describe them. When asked to describe the stripper who was missing or suspected of a crime or whatever, he can describe almost nothing except her breasts (the phrase he used was something like “classic champagne-glass shape” or something like that). The man and his detailed, almost obsessive study of breasts was clearly meant to be seen as sad and creepy. I don’t know exactly why **Fear Itself** created such a detailed poll, and I’m certainly not comparing him to the loser on TV. But I do offer the scene as an example of sexual interest being taken to an extreme that makes it seem awkward. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/208 "2011-12-07T07:05:15Z")
> [@mister\_nyx](#): > > I don’t know why you think I’m worked up… > [@mister nyx](#): > > …I’m starting to picture neckbeards being stroked… > [@mister nyx](#): > > …God damn are you whiny… > [@mister nyx](#): > > …Quit exaggerating… > [@mister nyx](#): > > …more and more clear that there is something wrong with you… > [@mister nyx](#): > > …Accept it, neckbeard… > [@mister nyx](#): > > …throwing this continuing tantrum… > [@mister nyx](#): > > …even more pathetic part where you tried… > [@mister nyx](#): > > …my speculations about neckbeards… > [@mister nyx](#): > > …there is no point in arguing further… > [@mister nyx](#): > > …generate such a flurry of posts as to overwhelm the discussion… > [@mister nyx](#): > > …your failure to really even understand what’s going on… > [@mister nyx](#): > > …you had a pervasive developmental disorder… That’s why. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/209 "2011-12-07T07:07:54Z")
> [@Clark\_K](#): > > …(I’d say “way too much time,” but I don’t want **RaftPeople** to think I am making unsupported judgments about the norms of appropriate time spent in gentlemen’s clubs.)… Oh don’t worry, I saw that show - that guy was a creep. ---
**Author:** ![JBDivmstr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JBDivmstr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBDivmstr)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/210 "2011-12-07T09:02:24Z")
Damn! What a ‘train wreck’ _ **this** _ turned out to be! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/211 "2011-12-08T05:53:34Z")
> [@JBDivmstr](#): > > Damn! What a ‘train wreck’ _ **this** _ turned out to be! 😛 It’s not at ALL what I’d planned, but heck. … as long as people are “having fun”. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/212 "2011-12-08T07:36:21Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > It’s not at ALL what I’d planned, but heck. … as long as people are “having fun”. > > 😃 Train wrecks are tough to predict. I just showed my girlfriend the nipple poll - she laughed. ---
**Author:** ![JBDivmstr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JBDivmstr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBDivmstr)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/213 "2011-12-09T21:53:34Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > It’s not at ALL what I’d planned, but heck. … as long as people are “having fun”. > > 😃 Heh heh. 😛 I concur and second that! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JBDivmstr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JBDivmstr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBDivmstr)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/214 "2011-12-10T00:40:37Z")
> [@Troppus](#): > > The character mentioned has an unholy obsession with girl parts, and his lines and actions are nearly as hilarious and campy as they are creepy. He dances around with a toy poodle while dreaming up a suit designed of girl parts that he could wear. It’s absurd, like the detail requested in the poll. > > See? Not such a terrible comparison. > > **Troppus** , who sports bright pink nipples of freakish proportion. > [@JBDivmstr](#): > > (bolding mine) > > Just out of curiosity, what exactly are the parameters for “freakish proportion”? 😕 > > “Pink is my favorite color!” 😃 (Apologies to Steven Tyler/Aerosmith) I’m still wondering what the ‘parameters’ are for a “freakish proportion”.😕 😛 > [@JBDivmstr](#): > > Damn! What a ‘train wreck’ _ **this** _ turned out to be! 😛 > [@RaftPeople](#): > > Train wrecks are tough to predict. > > I just showed my girlfriend the nipple poll - she laughed. Aren’t they, though? 😉 So did my SO. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662.md?page=10)