# Oh good Lord!!!! Not Nipples!!!!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 1, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662 "2011-12-01T03:26:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/21 "2011-12-01T12:09:19Z")

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> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#):
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> There’s a big difference between talking about nipples in general (okay), choosing to talk about your own nipples and sharing what you feel comfortable sharing about them, and being asked to describe your nipples in great and odd detail in a public forum. Especially if you’re a woman and the asker is a man- nothing against men, but many women have had a lot of negative experiences with salacious strangers and eventually you develop reactions ranging from 😕 to :eek: to :mad: to :o to ☹ to :dubious: .

Yes, but that makes no sense to apply that on a message board where said guy ABSOLUTELY CANNOT be some guy who is going to try to rape you.

I can see not wanting to answer, but getting up in arms about it is stupid and irrational. Telling someone they aren’t allowed to ask something because you’re offended is the exact opposite of what we do here. We instead constantly tell people that they have no right to be offended (as I’ve heard repeatedly).

And your allegations that you are in the majority is false. There are just as many people answering the poll as any other. It’s just that there’s a very vocal minority who have a problem with it. Not that questions of morality need bow to popular opinion anyways.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/22 "2011-12-01T12:15:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Oh good Lord!!! Not Nipples!!!

Somebody just now got around to seeing the Joel Schumacher Batman films?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/23 "2011-12-01T12:19:40Z")

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Why do people act so dumb sometimes? No one said the guy shouldn’t be “allowed” to ask about nipples! Just that it is a creepy thread.

And just because the guy can’t rape you through the internet does not take away the creepiness factor.

I just clicked on the thread and glanced at the OP. The length of the poll alone turned me off. So I can’t really say if it’s creepy or not. But if a person says it’s creepy to them, what is the freakin’ point of arguing with them about it? It’s how they feel. It’s not a “right” or “wrong” thing. It just _is_.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/24 "2011-12-01T14:20:46Z")

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> [@CanvasShoes](#):
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> So as to not hijack the original thread here:  
> [snip]

Your first line just kills me. The original thread was hijacked at the first response and pretty well stayed that way.

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**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/25 "2011-12-01T15:18:00Z")

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Wasn’t creepy at all.

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/26 "2011-12-01T15:26:35Z")

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In my mind, it was no more or less creepy than the myriad “Poll: Ladies! Shaved/Trimmed/Jungle down there?” and no less fapworthy for some folks.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/27 "2011-12-01T16:43:15Z")

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For me, that poll and thread (and others) failed the Front Page test - I try not to post stuff that I don’t want to see on the front page of my local newspaper (and I found it creepy, too). I wouldn’t tell other people they can’t start threads like that or post to them, though - other people are not me.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/28 "2011-12-01T16:49:19Z")

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The original thread did strike me as creepy. I can’t say exactly why.

However, the discussion on why the original thread is creepy has been fascinating and enlightening.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/29 "2011-12-01T17:07:50Z")

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> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#):
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> In my mind, it was no more or less creepy than the myriad “Poll: Ladies! Shaved/Trimmed/Jungle down there?” and no less fapworthy for some folks.

What is more creepy?

Poll:  
\_ Shaved  
\_ Trimmed  
\_ Jungle

or

Poll  
\_ shaved to top of labia  
\_ shaved to 1/2 inch from labia  
\_ shaved to 1 inch from labia  
\_ shaved to 2 inch from labia  
\_ shaved to side of labia  
\_ shaved to 1/2 inch from side  
\_ shaved to 1 inch from side  
\_ shaved to 2 inch from side  
\_ trimmed to 1/4 inch hair length  
\_ trimmed to 1/2 inch hair length  
\_ trimmed to 1 inch hair length  
\_ shaped like a heart  
\_ shaped like a strip  
\_ shaped like a triangle  
\_ while we’re at it, why not measure your labia as well, I’ve got all day  
I think the second poll is way creepier.

FTR, I have personally noted my genital shaving habits on the boards, so I don’t consider myself particularly squeamish about the topic.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/30 "2011-12-01T17:35:14Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And your allegations that you are in the majority is false. There are just as many people answering the poll as any other. It’s just that there’s a very vocal minority who have a problem with it. Not that questions of morality need bow to popular opinion anyways.

Y’know with all due respect, bullshit. You have no way of knowing how many people were intentionally sabotaging the poll by answering every single question ( as obviously at least a few did ) and by far the largest chunk of the responses were null, i.e. male. Also note that in addition to the numbers not really supporting your position, that not a single person said anything positive about that poll until you entered the scene at post #55. And it seems thereafter that at most five or six posters argued against the loose consensus.

My _opinion_ is that a majority of people would find that poll a little skeezy. But I will admit that I can’t prove that one way or the other. However neither can you and the circumstantial evidence is definitely stacked in the other direction.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/31 "2011-12-01T19:44:52Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Yes, but that makes no sense to apply that on a message board where said guy ABSOLUTELY CANNOT be some guy who is going to try to rape you.
> 
> I can see not wanting to answer, but getting up in arms about it is stupid and irrational.

There’s nothing stupid and irrational about being grossed out by posts that are basically fodder for masturbation. It’s the internet equivalent of having someone randomly approach you on the street waving his dong at you. The tinge of benevolent sexism doesn’t help (O exalted breasts!) I’d rather be thought of as a person than defined by the shape, size, length and texture of my nipples, personally. It gets tiresome.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/32 "2011-12-01T19:58:31Z")

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Am I the only one who thought the nipple thread was a fine companion to **Stoid** ’s Dear Woman thread?

On reflection, probably so.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/33 "2011-12-01T20:14:49Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> I wonder, OP, how many people, having never seen that thread, are going to read your reaction to it and agree with you, and then go look at the actual poll and say oh wait. No, wait. That _is_ fucking bizarre.

Right here, as a data point. I actually started laughing at the creepiness when I got to the “puffy / not puffy” part and thought this OP was a well-executed parody thread.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/34 "2011-12-01T20:26:08Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> There’s nothing stupid and irrational about being grossed out by posts that are basically fodder for masturbation.

Agreed.

> [@](#):
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> It’s the internet equivalent of having someone randomly approach you on the street waving his dong at you.

But what **Big T** is saying (and I agree) is that if a stranger on the street waves his penis at you, you have an extremely good reason to assume that he’ll try to rape you. It’s impossible to rape somebody over the internet. You may judge the dong waver a pervert, but you remain safe. I believe that’s a very important distinction.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/35 "2011-12-01T20:28:21Z")

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It’s creepy because it’s a guy.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/36 "2011-12-01T21:37:15Z")

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Guy here. While I don’t think there’s anything even slightly threatening about the poll, I found it creepy.

A few years ago, I was hanging out with friends and acquaintances. The topic of masturbation came up, and everyone was chatting freely about it. And then one guy started getting oddly specific about his questions, regarding how long it takes women to masturbate, positions, surroundings, etc. It creeped everyone out and killed the conversation.

That’s what that thread was. The Dope isn’t a very prude place, and we can talk about all sorts of stuff. But when it comes to the tone, there’s a line that can be crossed. It may be hard to define, but the vast majority of posters know it when they see it. And boy, did we see it.

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**Author:** ![SeaCanary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@SeaCanary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaCanary)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/37 "2011-12-01T21:38:22Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Am I the only one who thought the nipple thread was a fine companion to **Stoid** ’s Dear Woman thread?

Anything in particular or just in general? I didn’t have the patience to read all [10 pages of it](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=603848&highlight=Dear+Woman). And especially because it was closed. FWIW my _impression_ is that thread was pretty thorough in its chaotic nature. 😃

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/38 "2011-12-01T21:40:23Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> But what **Big T** is saying (and I agree) is that if a stranger on the street waves his penis at you, you have an extremely good reason to assume that he’ll try to rape you. It’s impossible to rape somebody over the internet. You may judge the dong waver a pervert, but you remain safe. I believe that’s a very important distinction.

Well sure, we’re all safe as houses. No one’s worred about getting raped while reading that thread. (Unless they live in a bad part of town, then maybe. But I digress.) Doesn’t mean that we still can’t find it creepy. And it is, to the extreme. It’s creepy enough that **Fear Itself** will probably forever be remembered as “the creepy nipple guy” in Dopers’ minds. (He is in mine, that’s for certain.)

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**Author:** ![maggenpye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@maggenpye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maggenpye)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/39 "2011-12-01T21:52:22Z")

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I just want to remind people that it wasn’t \*\*Alice \*\*that mentioned rape.

She’s not afraid of being electronically raped, she’s not accusing board members of wanting to rape her.

Alice said:_many women have had a lot of negative experiences with salacious strangers_.

BigT & DocCathode have made the jump from that to fear of rape. Sorry guys, that wasn’t at all what was said.

If some bloke in a car yells “Show us your tits!” at me, I don’t assume I’m about to be raped, but I don’t flash my boobs either.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/40 "2011-12-01T21:53:44Z")

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> [@Snickers](#):
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> Well sure, we’re all safe as houses. No one’s worred about getting raped while reading that thread. (Unless they live in a bad part of town, then maybe. But I digress.)

But somebody upthread did mention the threat of rape.

> [@](#):
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> Doesn’t mean that we still can’t find it creepy.

In my last post, I agreed that it was creepy

> [@](#):
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> And it is, to the extreme. It’s creepy enough that **Fear Itself** will probably forever be remembered as “the creepy nipple guy” in Dopers’ minds. (He is in mine, that’s for certain.)

I don;t know. I was worried about always being remembered as the ‘naked guy who started the naked Doper pic thread’. If that’s how people remember me, I haven’t noticed. Then again, I think I was more on people’s radar and had an identity before that. I don’t know that **Fear Itself** had a strong identity before this.

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