# Oh good Lord!!!! Not Nipples!!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 1, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662 "2011-12-01T03:26:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/41 "2011-12-01T21:55:36Z")
> [@maggenpye](#): > > I just want to remind people that it wasn’t \*\*Alice \*\*that mentioned rape. > > She’s not afraid of being electronically raped, she’s not accusing board members of wanting to rape her. > > Alice said:_many women have had a lot of negative experiences with salacious strangers_. > > BigT & DocCathode have made the jump from that to fear of rape. Sorry guys, that wasn’t at all what was said. It appears I misunderstood. > [@](#): > > If some bloke in a car yells “Show us your tits!” at me, I don’t assume I’m about to be raped, but I don’t flash my boobs either. Damn! I was told that technique never failed! You’ve lied to me again porn! ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/42 "2011-12-01T22:01:00Z")
> [@Snickers](#): > > Well sure, we’re all safe as houses. No one’s worred about getting raped while reading that thread. (Unless they live in a bad part of town, then maybe. But I digress.) Doesn’t mean that we still can’t find it creepy. And it is, to the extreme. It’s creepy enough that **Fear Itself** will probably forever be remembered as “the creepy nipple guy” in Dopers’ minds. (He is in mine, that’s for certain.) How about “the nippler”? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/43 "2011-12-01T22:01:08Z")
I don’t think the original thread would have passed the dinner party test. If there was a lull in conversation, “ladies, tell us about your nipples” would not be a conversational masterstroke. When I saw it I assumed it was probably a trolling attempt or a badly judged joke. The reactions to it have little to do with prudishness. If women want to talk about their nipples, that’s fine, but what possible purpose does a poll have? > [@DocCathode](#): > > But what **Big T** is saying (and I agree) is that if a stranger on the street waves his penis at you, you have an extremely good reason to assume that he’ll try to rape you. It’s impossible to rape somebody over the internet. You may judge the dong waver a pervert, but you remain safe. I believe that’s a very important distinction. That’s a strawman, that isn’t what \*\*Alice the Goon \*\*and \*\*olivesmarch4th \*\*said. Women don’t have to be in imminent danger of rape to feel uncomfortable. I’m male, but I found the rape scene in _The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo_ to be upsetting to watch. I’m not black, but I’m not happy when exposed to racism either. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/44 "2011-12-01T22:07:10Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > That’s a strawman, that isn’t what \*\*Alice the Goon \*\*and \*\*olivesmarch4th \*\*said. Women don’t have to be in imminent danger of rape to feel uncomfortable. # 1 I never said they did. #2 I already admitted that I misunderstood a previous post in post #41. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/45 "2011-12-01T22:45:12Z")
#1 It was **BigT** ’s strawman, which you said you agreed with. #2 Sorry, was writing my post when you replied. ---
**Author:** ![thirdwarning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecccb3/32.png) [@thirdwarning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdwarning)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/46 "2011-12-01T22:48:29Z")
Was it the impersonal, maybe sort of clinical nature of a poll that got to people? Because I didn’t see that much difference in creepiness or weirdness between that OP and ones like, “How do you masturbate?” or “How do you like your oral sex?” I understand why some women might feel a bit creeped out by something that reminds them of unpleasant experience, but on the computer it’s a bit distanced, to me, and without names on the poll responses I don’t see how it could be all that personal. I’m a woman, just for perspective. To each their own. It just struck me as odd, that’s all. And kind of amusing. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/47 "2011-12-01T22:55:05Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > I don;t know. I was worried about always being remembered as the ‘naked guy who started the naked Doper pic thread’. If that’s how people remember me, I haven’t noticed. Um, yeah… about that… yeah. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/48 "2011-12-01T23:07:43Z")
**Alice** I’m not sure if you’re being serious or making the obvious joke because you got a straight line. Either way, I have not noticed people being less willing to engage me in conversation on the boards or at fests so I suppose it doesn’t really matter. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/49 "2011-12-01T23:35:45Z")
If he had just said, “Ladies, talk about your nipples! Pointy, flat, what color?” or something like that, I bet a lot of women would have answered. He sat there and thought about thirty-something permutations of nipples. At this point I say, you know there’s this thing called porn on the Internet? Free and everything! And topless women abound (pun intended). It was asking for way too much detail and had been way too thought out. What, are you doing a thesis? ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/50 "2011-12-01T23:39:25Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > **Alice** I’m not sure if you’re being serious or making the obvious joke because you got a straight line. > > Either way, I have not noticed people being less willing to engage me in conversation on the boards or at fests so I suppose it doesn’t really matter. No, I don’t think anybody would treat you any differently, or that it matters one bit. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/51 "2011-12-01T23:41:35Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > It was asking for way too much detail and had been way too thought out. What, are you doing a thesis? Does this mean you won’t be responding to my **“Show us your vagina!”** poll? Participants will need a speculum, a protractor and a turkey baster. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2011, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/52 "2011-12-01T23:51:44Z")
> [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](#): > > I gotta go look at some boobies or something to cleanse. Vedi nipples e poi mori. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/53 "2011-12-02T00:12:02Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > Vedi nipples e poi mori. Alright, I can’t figure this out and Google translate is no help. Is it “I see the nipples of dead people”? ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/54 "2011-12-02T00:25:09Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > Alright, I can’t figure this out and Google translate is no help. > > Is it “I see the nipples of dead people”? Stupid pun based on an old saying, “See Naples, and then die.” (That is, then your life will be complete–not to be interpreted as wishing death on anyone.) ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/55 "2011-12-02T00:39:33Z")
Ad areola per ardua En mammae veritas Vini, Vedi boobies ---
**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/56 "2011-12-02T00:50:24Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > But if a person says it’s creepy to them, what is the freakin’ point of arguing with them about it? It’s how they feel. It’s not a “right” or “wrong” thing. It just _is_. Sure they find it creepy, but the question is: whose problem is that? If you’re honestly creeped out because someone posted an unusually thorough nipple survey on the internet, then you’re the one with the problem, not them. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/57 "2011-12-02T01:24:16Z")
**emcee2k** I have to disagree. Every community has some kind of rules and norms. When somebody violates these, a very emotional reaction is natural. The poll and the opening post were largely seen as violating the norms of the board (though not the rules). That is largely why people have problems with them. And going by your argument, if I walk naked down main street the police shouldn’t bother me but should bother anybody who complains. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/58 "2011-12-02T02:10:23Z")
> [@emcee2k](#): > > Sure they find it creepy, but the question is: whose problem is that? > > If you’re honestly creeped out because someone posted an unusually thorough nipple survey on the internet, then you’re the one with the problem, not them. This makes no sense. Whoever posts that thread has a right to post it. I have a right to feel creepified and a right to say so. I don’t recall anyone in either thread saying he should have been shut down. I mean, really, what do you want? In your ideal world he posts a creepy thread (in my eyes) and, what, I should answer anyway, or maybe just ignore it? I \*could \*ignore it, but I wanted to state my piece. As it’s a message board, that’s rather expected. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/59 "2011-12-02T02:58:53Z")
> [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](#): > > I know, I have a great idea for a poll! > > **Men: Show Us Your Penis! Redux** All those options and you couldn’t find space for circumcised vs. uncircumcised?:mad: ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662/60 "2011-12-02T03:00:59Z")
> [@thirdwarning](#): > > Was it the impersonal, maybe sort of clinical nature of a poll that got to people? It struck me as just the opposite of “impersonal” and “clinical”. The text of the OP describes how much **Fear Itself** enjoys looking at nipples, and the extremely specific poll options ask for much greater detail than I would expect in any sort of legitimate medical context. The title “Ladies: Show Us Your Nipples!” doesn’t seem particularly detached or neutral either. > [@](#): > > Because I didn’t see that much difference in creepiness or weirdness between that OP and ones like, “How do you masturbate?” or “How do you like your oral sex?” I usually ignore those threads, but I suspect a lot of Dopers would have a negative reaction to a thread titled “Ladies: Show Us How You Masturbate!” that contained a similarly detailed poll. I am sure someone will want to make a \*hilarious \*quip about how that would be the best thread ever, but I have no doubt such a thread would also attract quite a few comments about how creepy it all was. ETA: For **CanvasShoes** , I was prepared to more or less agree with you until I actually clicked the link and read the thread in question. That poll was creepy as hell. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-good-lord-not-nipples/604662.md?page=4)