# Oh Goody! Mitt Romney Is Coming Back!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 2, 2015, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702 "2015-09-02T13:07:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/41 "2015-09-19T18:27:49Z")

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> [@Alkash](#):
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> At one moment, Mitt slowly, patiently, like to a 5 year retard, explained to President Obama that Russia is the US’ greatest geopolitical threat

[Except his advisers called it the Soviet Union.](http://www.mediaite.com/tv/back-in-the-ussr-romney-advisor-refers-to-russia-as-the-soviet-union/)😉

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> and President Obama, instead of listening, absorbing and thanking Mr. Romney for sharing his wisdom…laughed at Romney and mocked him.

Quite properly, too. Not long earlier, still hunting for press attention, [Romney thought it was Iran](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/romney-russia-is-no-1-geopolitical-foe).

At least he didn’t actually \*say \*“Axis of Evil”.

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**Author:** ![Alkash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Alkash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alkash)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/42 "2015-09-20T12:03:20Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Bush was still President in 2008.

Yes, yes, he was. Russia invaded Georgia in August 2008, and shrub’s administratrion (with 4 months to live and the clusterfuck that Iraq was) thought about actually doing something, and then basically said it: “ah, fuck it, let’s the next guy deal with it”.  
And the next guy sure dealt with it–the Russia’s punishment for invading our ally and a perspective NATO member was a… reset policy (which got initiated when Madam Secretary Clinton gave her Russian counterpart a button, where the Russian word for “reset” was hilariously misspelled–and got mocked by Sergei Lavrov in return).  
Fast-forward 4 years later, and President Obama asks then-president Medvedev to tell then-Prime-Minister Putin than if only Mr. Putin gave him more space, President Obama will be a lot more flexible after the election.  
I kid you not. In 2012, when any thinking person (such as Mitt Romney, for example) already knew that Russia was US greatest geopolitical threat, President Obama begged the Russians to “please give me more space”.  
Fast-forward another 2 years, and Russia invades Ukraine (the decision to invade was taken during Winter Olympic games, hosted in Russia’s Sochi). What was President Obama doing during that time, while the biggest post-war violation of European security was being conceived? Why, he was sending a stern message to Russia about its treatment of gays ( of course, in Russia, homosexuality is completely legal).  
You know the expression “Nero fiddled, while the Rome burned”?  
Well, in this case, Nero didn’t even know that the Rome was burning.  
Imagine what’d happen if we had a responsible adult, like Mitt Romney, in the office during that time…

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**Author:** ![Alkash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Alkash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alkash)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/43 "2015-09-20T12:05:58Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [Except his advisers called it the Soviet Union.](http://www.mediaite.com/tv/back-in-the-ussr-romney-advisor-refers-to-russia-as-the-soviet-union/)😉

And Mitt Romney himself called it Russia. You had a point there somewhere?

> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Quite properly, too. Not long earlier, still hunting for press attention, [Romney thought it was Iran](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/romney-russia-is-no-1-geopolitical-foe).
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> At least he didn’t actually \*say \*“Axis of Evil”.

Yes, it was a tough choice between Russia and Iran, and Mitt Romney nailed it (according to Obama’s administration officials), correctly identifying the US greatest threat as Russia.  
Obama himself on the other hand…laughed at Mr. Romney, when Mr. Romney made his call.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/44 "2015-09-20T13:27:31Z")

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I never liked Romney, but he was right on Russia and Obama was not. Lets face it, the time from about 2013 to 2015 was a bad time for a lot of Obama’s foreign policy, its only the successes of the last few months that shine.

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**Author:** ![zwede](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ac91a4/32.png) [@zwede](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zwede)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/45 "2015-09-20T13:33:23Z")

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> [@Alkash](#):
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> Imagine what’d happen if we had a responsible adult, like Mitt Romney, in the office during that time…

I guess we’d be at war with Russia. And Iran. And with ISIS in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and Libya.

I’m sure that would have worked out just peachy.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/46 "2015-09-20T15:32:31Z")

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Help me out. How does Russia messing around with the Ukraine make it “the greatest threat to America”? Yes, probably “containment” of Russia should again be an issue but it’s not like Russia now threatens America’s security or business interests.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/47 "2015-09-20T15:49:29Z")

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I agree. Does Putin have empire-building ambitions that may pose a threat to the immediately surrounding territories? It appears so. Does that pose a threat to the US or the western world? Hard to see how. And even harder to see what Romney thinks the US can do about it.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/48 "2015-09-21T14:37:15Z")

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_The New Yorker_ on Mitt’s slumber-party diary: [http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/27/mitt-romneys-slumber-party-diary](http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/27/mitt-romneys-slumber-party-diary)

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/49 "2015-09-21T21:56:27Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Does Putin have empire-building ambitions that may pose a threat to the immediately surrounding territories? It appears so.

How did Dubya miss that when he looked into the man’s soul?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/50 "2015-10-24T03:32:54Z")

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Mitt praises Obamacare, then immediately gets a hold of himself: [http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/23/politics/mitt-romney-obamacare/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/23/politics/mitt-romney-obamacare/index.html)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/51 "2015-10-24T05:37:19Z")

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He’s in the news, people are talking about him. Some of them got to be saying “You know, he could be the answer to our problem! He almost won last time, and everybody hates Hillary. So, _this_ time!..”

Just bringing this up again because you guys got the memory of goldfish. You’ll forget I told you so if I’m not annoying about it.

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**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/52 "2015-10-24T14:57:47Z")

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So, what’s the ticket?

Romney/Carson

Crane

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/53 "2015-10-24T15:29:17Z")

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Romney/Jesus. Not the Mormon Jesus, the real one.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/54 "2015-10-24T18:02:49Z")

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I hear Brigham Young is available…

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**Author:** ![talksalot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@talksalot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/talksalot)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/55 "2015-10-25T02:45:35Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Well, maybe. Looks like all the big money, country club, business wing Republicans are dismayed with Jeb Bush, and are trying to get Mitt Romney to come back. And Mitt hates DOnald Trump so much, he’s thinking about running again.
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> Won’t THAT be exciting? Won’t THAT be just the thing to kill Donald Trump?
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> Nobody in either party could muster any enthusiasm for Mitt last time… but THIS time will surely be different, right?
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> [Romney Is Horrified by Trump — and That’s Restarting ‘Mitt 2016’ Talk](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/romneys-horror-at-trump-renews-mitt-2016-talk.html)

I was very enthused about a Romney presidency and disappointed that he chose not to run again.

This time around, my preference is Carly Fiorina, Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio in that order. I like Ben Carson too, but worry that he can’t be effective in Washington.

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**Author:** ![Monocracy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monocracy/32/4493_2.png) [@Monocracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monocracy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/56 "2015-10-25T13:01:45Z")

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Here is one thing I haven’t seen mentioned yet:

While running in 2012, Romney released his 2011 tax returns in which he paid a lot more taxes than he should have in order to avoid the “look how little the rich have to pay” talking point. It was said that if he lost the election, he could amend his tax return and get all that money back.

So he lost the election, and I assume he amended his 2011 return. If he becomes the GOP nominee, he will have to release his tax returns again, and the people will see the shady way he manipulated his taxes and the public.

Romney will not be the nominee. There is no chance.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/57 "2015-10-25T13:20:07Z")

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> [@Monocracy](#):
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> Romney will not be the nominee. There is no chance.

I dunno. I think the chances are slim, because I think the chances of a brokered convention are slim, and obviously there are other possible outcomes from a brokered convention besides the party saying “what the hell” and giving Romney the nomination.

But if you think most of the available choices look pretty tarnished now, another nearly nine months isn’t going to improve their looks. If there’s no first-ballot winner coming out of the primaries, Romney’s gonna start looking awfully good.

So I’d hardly say ‘no chance.’ Slim chance, sure, but Slim won’t leave town until someone else has wrapped up the nomination.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/58 "2015-10-25T15:19:00Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Mitt praises Obamacare

That was much sooner than I had expected. I thought it would take another generation for the Republicans to claim credit for Obamacare, but we haven’t even had another election yet.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/59 "2015-10-25T17:19:00Z")

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He took it right back.

> **[Romney walks back apparent compliment of Obamacare | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/23/politics/mitt-romney-obamacare/)**
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> Mitt Romney stirred up a controversy Friday after he appeared to praise Obamacare, the law he pledged to repeal when he ran for president in 2012, before later walking back his comments.

**Romney walks back apparent compliment of Obamacare**

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-goody-mitt-romney-is-coming-back/729702/60 "2015-10-25T21:53:04Z")

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He’s still subject to momentary lapses, though. From that same cite:

> [@](#):
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> As for his comment about his friend, Romney said, “Getting people health insurance is a good thing, and that’s what Tom Stemberg fought for.”

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