# Oh, just YOU. Ooooookay. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2002, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221 "2002-06-27T13:19:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2002, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/1 "2002-06-27T13:19:37Z")
I’m too tired to do a full rant, but it’s a simple topic. Busload of kids going to church camp [crashes](http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/06/25/bus.crash.survivor/index.html). Survivor says, > [@](#): > > “I really feel God protected me,” she said. “I mean, I was so close to that pole. The girl behind me died. I really feel his hand was over me and watching me.” The reason church buses keep getting into accidents is because the churches buy pieces of shit that aren’t up to safety standards, because they’re cheaper. The indirect result of this **negligence** is artificial proofs of faith such as this. “God looooooooves me, that’s why I’m not dead! Oh god, why did you take my best friend?” How can people believe in a god who gives and takes so arbitrarily? If people who missed being in the WTC at 8:40 am believe that god caused that to happen, how can they believe that the same god neglected their friend in the next cubicle? ---
**Author:** ![Earthworm\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f07891/32.png) [@Earthworm\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earthworm_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2002, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/2 "2002-06-27T13:24:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \* > **"God looooooooves me, that’s why I’m not dead! Oh god, why did you take my best friend?"** Because God works in mysterious ways, of course. Obviously, those killed were ready to be accepted into the kingdom of Heaven at the expense of the rest of those damn sinners, who got to suffer some pain. Two birds with one stone, and all that. ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2002, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/3 "2002-06-27T13:28:58Z")
> [@](#): > > “It really wasn’t affecting me until I got a chance to take a break, and then I just started reflecting on what I saw,” Ray said. "You don’t see that in movies, no matter how bad of a movie you’re watching. > > “I try not to think about the gory stuff, but, I mean, sometimes it does come back,” she said. “I’ve just tried to focus on the positive, like how many people did make it.” What a little airhead. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2002, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/4 "2002-06-27T13:29:35Z")
Because God loves them so much that he had to take them? Not a very satisfying answer, is it? I prefer this: > [@](#): > > _Ecclesiastes 9:10_ > I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance happen to them all. I roughly translate that to be saying ‘shit happens’. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2002, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/5 "2002-06-27T14:35:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Beelzebubba \* > \*\*Obviously, those killed were ready to be accepted into the kingdom of Heaven at the expense of the rest of those damn sinners, who got to suffer some pain. Two birds with one stone, and all that. \*\* A similar sentiment is expressed by the “Christian” lesson cited in the OP of [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=122267). :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Elvis_Rojo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2002, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/6 "2002-06-27T15:47:13Z")
How can one say “God protected me” even though he witnessed his friends die? Well, they were on their way to a “Christian” Camp, no? ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2002, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/7 "2002-06-27T16:48:36Z")
On the radio yesterday, the DJ said he talked with a reliable source concerning the fact that the bus driver (who died) was fired from another company a week or so prior to the accident in regards to sleeping at the wheel. I don’t know how much of it is true. pretty sad stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/2bfe46/32.png) [@Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xavier)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/8 "2002-06-28T00:57:58Z")
> [@](#): > > **Mangetout:** Because God loves them so much that he had to take them? Not a very satisfying answer, is it? > > I prefer this: > > ## quote: > > ## Ecclesiastes 9:10 I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance happen to them all. > > I roughly translate that to be saying ‘shit happens’. This is soooooooooooooo true. You have officially entered my cool book. ---
**Author:** ![Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/2bfe46/32.png) [@Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xavier)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/9 "2002-06-28T01:04:35Z")
> [@](#): > > **Mangetout:** Because God loves them so much that he had to take them? Not a very satisfying answer, is it? > > I prefer this: > > ## quote: > > ## Ecclesiastes 9:10 I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance happen to them all. > > I roughly translate that to be saying ‘shit happens’. This is soooooooooooooo true. You have officially entered my cool book. ---
**Author:** ![Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/2bfe46/32.png) [@Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xavier)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/10 "2002-06-28T01:14:03Z")
In fact, you’re so cool that you’ve entered twice. ---
**Author:** ![Kaotic\_Newtral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@Kaotic\_Newtral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaotic_Newtral)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/11 "2002-06-28T02:48:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by El Elvis Rojo \* > \*\*How can one say “God protected me” even though he witnessed his friends die? Well, they were on their way to a “Christian” Camp, no? \*\* Yep…that’s the fucked up thing. Next time I win a Super-Bowl, I’m gonna spurt “I thank God first, nevermind those other fucks who went to church from the other team…I must’ve prayed louder”. Buncha fucks. (But, I wish I could write a book that could be interpreted in any way someone wished). ---
**Author:** ![XCchick22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/e19b73/32.png) [@XCchick22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XCchick22)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/12 "2002-06-28T04:20:51Z")
Yeah that sort of thing is a big reason I’m not a christian. I just don’t understand how people can say shit like that about “It was their time, just not mine, God saved me.” My view is best described by what an Episcopalian reverend said at my friend’s funeral. He said that horrible things happen sometimes for no reason, and those things made God just as sad as we are. I don’t know if that is the general view of the Episcopalian church, but I mostly agree with what he said. Well, I guess those kids have been brainwashed quite well if they can go through that and believe that it was God’s will that they were one of the few saved while others died around them. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/13 "2002-06-28T10:23:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by LurkMeister \* > \*\* > A similar sentiment is expressed by the “Christian” lesson cited in the OP of [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=122267). :rolleyes: \*\* I was thinking of that, yes. **BNB** You don’t sayyyyyyy… ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/14 "2002-06-28T11:39:39Z")
So God is a micro-managing busybody? ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/15 "2002-06-28T14:58:01Z")
Who seems to take particular delight in tormenting my wife.:mad: ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-just-you-ooooookay/116221/16 "2002-06-28T15:05:14Z")
> [@](#): > > The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong Perhaps not, but that’s the way you should probably bet.