# Oh, lordy, this should be good: Moore visits O'Reilly tonight **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 27, 2004, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137 "2004-07-27T18:25:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/1 "2004-07-27T18:25:04Z")
I realize that 90% plus people here will be pulling for Moore, but for me, it’s pretty much like a battle between Janet Reno and John Ashcroft. I don’t care who wins, I’m just glad someone’s going to lose. The previews show some flush and ruddy faces, lots of spit flying, and no-holds-barred screaming on top of one another. This is one time I won’t begrudge Moore fans their victory if he comes up smelling like a rose because, frankly, O’Reilly stinks like a big bag of shit. Hot damn! Go Bill! Go Michael! Knock each other out! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/2 "2004-07-27T18:29:26Z")
Dear God, I hope there’s a way that I can see this up here in FoxNews-free Soviet Canuckistan. ---
**Author:** ![Mottpot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Mottpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mottpot)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/3 "2004-07-27T18:31:32Z")
I’ve never watched O’Reilly before. Is he on Fox News? What time will this be on? ---
**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/4 "2004-07-27T18:32:43Z")
Okay, I’m interested. Anybody know of a way for someone in England (that would be me) to get to see this? Short of flying to America, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/5 "2004-07-27T18:34:53Z")
Do you think they’re even capable of talking to one another? They’re both so far along the road with their own agendas I wonder if the show will go something like this … BO asks a skewed, telling question that goes something like: So, Michael, have you stopped beating your wife yet? MM answers a different question that contains some of the same words so it sounds like he is responding: Well, Bill, now that you bring it up, I _did_ find evidence that President Bush beats his wife. BO: So you basically admit you’re a low-down scumbag. MM: I think it’s pretty clear that Bush is indeed a low-down scumbag. And so forth … ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/6 "2004-07-27T18:39:53Z")
> [@Mottpot](#): > > I’ve never watched O’Reilly before. Is he on Fox News? What time will this be on? 8:00 Eastern. Rebroadcast at 1:00 AM. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/7 "2004-07-27T18:40:33Z")
It’s not the first time Moore has been on O’Reilly’s show. He was on about a year or so ago and totally dominated. MM is smarter than O’Reilly and he doesn’t come off as a lunatic. I imagine O’Reiily will try to go after the alleged “lies” in F911,but don’t think for a second that MM isn’t prepared to defend his film. This is an intellectual and ideological mismatch. The best O-Lie-ly can hope for is a draw, at worst he’ll be eviscerated. If O’Reilly starts to lose big, look for him to cut off Moore’s mic, call him a “traitor” and scream at him to leave the studio before “I rip your fucking head off.” ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/8 "2004-07-27T18:41:51Z")
Sweet Christ! Where and when? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/9 "2004-07-27T18:43:02Z")
It’s coming from the FleetCenter, Dio! 🙂 I didn’t record the preview, but they were both shouting over one another, and I picked up bits and pieces… something like, “So you still insist on calling the president a liar!” “Well, he IS a liar.” “Well, you’re a liar, too!” ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/10 "2004-07-27T18:47:55Z")
Does anyone know where the show will be filmed? I’m worried that the conflicting energies will collide and cause an explosion, leaving a crater with at least a 10 mile radius. People in that city should pack just the essentials in the car and get out right now. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/11 "2004-07-27T18:48:56Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > It’s coming from the FleetCenter, Dio! 🙂 I didn’t record the preview, but they were both shouting over one another, and I picked up bits and pieces… something like, “So you still insist on calling the president a liar!” “Well, he IS a liar.” “Well, you’re a liar, too!” So it’s already been recorded? Cool. I just hope Fox doesn’t edit it to make O’Reilly look better. It sounds like Bill started to lose it pretty early. 🙂 I mean, come on, no matter what O’Reilly thinks of Michael Moore, he losesall credibility himself if he’s going to doggedly insist that GWB is not a liar. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/12 "2004-07-27T18:49:21Z")
Of course if you miss the debate you can always get a couple of six year old boys mad at each other “You’re a poopyhead!” “No, You’re a poopyhead!” “No You’re a poopyhead!” “I know you are but what am I?!” A debate with equal or possibly greater significance and content ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/13 "2004-07-27T18:53:34Z")
He’s having Ben Affleck, too. Separately as far as I can tell. I hope he gets Moore first because Moore can get him good and riled up. Then, he’ll come across as being mean to the soft-spoken purty boy. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/14 "2004-07-27T18:56:01Z")
Yo, little help on the where and when. Fox 8:00 pm EST sound right? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/15 "2004-07-27T19:03:31Z")
Yeah, I posted the times just above. Fox News, 8 PM and 1 AM Eastern. I’ve got the DVR turned on and as soon as the promo plays again, I’ll post a transcript here. I’ll have to abridge it though for copyright reasons. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/16 "2004-07-27T19:09:26Z")
Heh. To be honest, this doesn’t sound likely to be any more edifying than a flamefest between, say, **Milroyj** and **Reeder** , yet somehow I feel compelled to tune in. Clearly, I need to get back on my medication. Oh, nurse! Three or four of the blue pills with the sparkly bits, and a glass of Jack Daniels to wash it down, stat! ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/17 "2004-07-27T19:13:09Z")
I’ve never watched O’Reilly before. Would it be 5:00 pm Pacific time, or do they delay the broadcast til 8:00 pm out here? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/18 "2004-07-27T19:24:26Z")
Good question, Blow, I don’t know. There must be an online schedule for your cable or satellite, though. Anyway, I did find a clip. It must have been before they got warmed up good. Here, they’re arguing over who’s willing to sacrifice more lives to kill terrorists. 😃 > **[Schedule | Fox News](https://www.foxnews.com/fnctv)** > > View the TV schedule of upcoming Fox News Channel shows and hosts. (Look for “Click here to watch a clip”) ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/19 "2004-07-27T19:24:28Z")
I see from [O’Reilly’s website](http://www.billoreilly.com/pg/jsp/community/radioshow.jsp) that Ann Coulter will also be on the show tonight. I also love that O’Reilly is going to ‘analyze’ the DNC speeches, and that “the Truth Police put a stop to any spin that may have been happening!” And, while you’re at the site, why not participate in O’Reilly’s poll of the day: > [@](#): > > Who is worse? > [ul] > [li]Michael Moore[/li][li]Al Franken[/li][/ul] He asks all the big questions! ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2004, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137/20 "2004-07-27T19:40:54Z")
Okay, here’s the promo. (Portions snipped.) =========================================== [Klingon battle drums and heavy metal music] Voiceover: …the explosive interview you’ve been waiting for! Bill goes head to head with Michael Moore! O’Reilly: You’re not gonna apologize to Bush. You’re gonna continue to call him a liar. Moore: No, I can’t think of a worse thing to do than… O’Reilly: [shouting] You wouldn’t even have invaded Afghanastan, would you… Moore: [unintelligable, spoken over O’Reilly] …sacrfice your child to secure Felujah. There’s a lot… O’Reilly: [unintelligable, spoken over Moore] …it was an imminent threat to the United States, and… Moore: [voice rising] There’s a lot of things we should have done. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-lordy-this-should-be-good-moore-visits-oreilly-tonight/257137.md?page=2)