# OH! My Brothers On The SDMB! Let us mourn for our fellow Man! Newslink

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**Created:** [June 9, 2012, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600 "2012-06-09T09:30:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
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Woman accused of bare-hand castration

EYYYEEEEE!!!

> **[Woman accused of bare-hand castration - UPI.com](https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2012/06/06/Woman-accused-of-bare-hand-castration/UPI-38371339008170/)**
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> A North Carolina woman was jailed for allegedly squeezing a man's testicles out of his scrotum, Shelby police said.

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> Woman accused of bare-hand castration  
> SHELBY, N.C., June 6 (UPI) – A North Carolina woman was jailed for allegedly squeezing a man’s testicles out of his scrotum, Shelby police said.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

The horror…the _horror_…

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/2 "2012-06-09T09:51:27Z")

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Two things stand out in that article. (No, not _those_.)  
From the linked article.

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> Joyce Maxine Gregory, 35, was charged with **malicious castration** and assault inflicting serious bodily injury

This happens often enough that there’s a separate charge?

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> He ran to a nearby rescue squad building for assistance,

_HOW!???_

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/3 "2012-06-09T16:29:21Z")

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Wow, that chick has some serious balls.

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**Author:** ![Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nunzio_Tavulari)\
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I wasn’t aware that they could be squeezed out. I can imagine that it was so painful as to be difficult to defend oneself, but I expected to see a puffy eye on her at least.

“She allegedly pulled down her pants and urinated in the backseat of the patrol car.”  
I’m not in favor of police abuse, but I think I might have parked the patrol car on a railroad crossing and walked away.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/5 "2012-06-09T17:12:49Z")

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> [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](#):
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> I wasn’t aware that they could be squeezed out. I can imagine that it was so painful as to be difficult to defend oneself, but I expected to see a puffy eye on her at least.
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> “She allegedly pulled down her pants and urinated in the backseat of the patrol car.”  
> I’m not in favor of police abuse, but I think I might have parked the patrol car on a railroad crossing and walked away.

If you squeeze a grape just right, comes right out of its peel. Especially, if as many women do, you have long nails.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/6 "2012-06-09T17:48:50Z")

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I’m betting she’s been praticing on zits for years and finally decided to go for the gold.

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**Author:** ![RedWood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f08c70/32.png) [@RedWood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedWood)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/7 "2012-06-09T18:56:03Z")

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I am a sister and I will mourn, too! :eek::eek::eek:😕😕☹  
**AYIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!**

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
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> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> If you squeeze a grape just right, comes right out of its peel. Especially, if as many women do, you have long nails.

Aaiiieeeeee!

:: curls up in a corner whimpering ::

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/9 "2012-06-09T19:04:13Z")

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Hmmm… malicious castration? What other kind of _criminal_ castration is there? And I wonder whether there is 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree castration charges?

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**Author:** ![Imago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/85e7bf/32.png) [@Imago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imago)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/10 "2012-06-09T20:10:27Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Wow, that chick has some serious balls.

Yeah, but they weren’t always hers! :eek:

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/11 "2012-06-10T02:04:16Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> This happens often enough that there’s a separate charge?

I assume it’s related to the Penal Law. 🙂

Here’s the [statute](http://www.ncleg.net/enactedlegislation/statutes/html/bysection/chapter_14/gs_14-28.html):

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> Article 8.
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> Assaults.
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> **§14-28. Malicious castration.**
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> If any person, of malice aforethought, shall unlawfully castrate any other person, or cut off, maim or disfigure any of the privy members of any person, with intent to murder, maim, disfigure, disable or render impotent such person, the person so offending shall be punished as a Class C felon. (1831, c. 40, s. 1; R.C., c. 34, s. 4; 1868‑9, c. 167, s. 6; Code, s. 999; Rev., s. 3627; C.S., s. 4210; 1979, c. 760, s. 5; 1979, 2nd Sess., c. 1316, s. 47; 1981, c. 63, s. 1, c. 179, s. 14; 1993, c. 539, s. 1133; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c).)

Note that the law, in some form or other, appears to go all the way back to 1831. It’s also the very first entry in **Article 8 - Assaults** of the Criminal Law.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/12 "2012-06-10T02:12:01Z")

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Those 1831 lawmakers were more on the ball than one would have thought.

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Hmmm… malicious castration? What other kind of _criminal_ castration is there? And I wonder whether there is 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree castration charges?

I was wondering if there was such thing as _non_-malicious castration.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/14 "2012-06-10T03:40:20Z")

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> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#):
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> I was wondering if there was such thing as _non_-malicious castration.

I’m sure there is, but it’s probably not a crime. In fact, historically it’s been used as a punishment for a sex crime.

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**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/15 "2012-06-10T08:27:56Z")

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What, benevolent castration?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
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I’m reminded of a case I read about in the news years ago, where a woman was attacker by a would be rapist, managed to rip his balls off and then showed up at a police station to drop the evidence off in a baggie at the front desk.

> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Hmmm… malicious castration? What other kind of _criminal_ castration is there?

Consider:

> [@mhendo](#):
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> I assume it’s related to the Penal Law. 🙂
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> > Article 8.
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> > Assaults.
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> > §14-28. Malicious castration.
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> > If any person, of malice aforethought, shall unlawfully castrate any other person, or cut off, maim or disfigure any of the privy members of any person, with intent to murder, maim, disfigure, disable or render impotent such person, the person so offending shall be punished as a Class C felon.

Note the underlined; if someone managed to castrate a man accidentally but still criminally (by irresponsibly discharging a firearm, say) then it wouldn’t be _malicious_ castration, but it would still be criminal.

> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#):
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> I was wondering if there was such thing as _non_-malicious castration.

Male-to-female gender reassignment surgery comes to mind. So does removal due to malignant cancer. Also, in theory I suppose a man could become allergic to his own testosterone; I recall reading of a case where a woman had her ovaries removed because she became allergic to her own sex hormones, to the extent of her menstrual cycle sending her into shock.

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**Author:** ![Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nunzio_Tavulari)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/17 "2012-06-10T11:57:29Z")

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The potential victim should have forcefully said to her “ **I want you to calm down. Right. Now**.” Then just walked away. Sure she would have hated him for doing so, but as long as she calms down, what does he care?

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**Author:** ![Imago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/85e7bf/32.png) [@Imago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imago)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/18 "2012-06-11T02:46:05Z")

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> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#):
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> I was wondering if there was such thing as _non_-malicious castration.

Well, how about when it’s voluntarily done due to a castration fetish?

Not that that’s criminal. The accidental-but-still-criminal examples fit better.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/19 "2012-06-11T02:51:06Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Hmmm… malicious castration? What other kind of _criminal_ castration is there?

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Note the underlined; if someone managed to castrate a man accidentally but still criminally (by irresponsibly discharging a firearm, say) then it wouldn’t be _malicious_ castration, but it would still be criminal.

Right.

And, in fact, the next section in the Assaults article of NC criminal law says:

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> **§14-29. Castration or other maiming without malice aforethought.**
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> If any person shall, on purpose and unlawfully, but without malice aforethought, cut, or slit the nose, bite or cut off the nose, or a lip or an ear, or disable any limb or member of any other person, or castrate any other person, or cut off, maim or disfigure any of the privy members of any other person, with intent to kill, maim, disfigure, disable or render impotent such person, the person so offending shall be punished as a Class E felon. (1754, c. 56, P.R.; 1791, c. 339, ss. 2, 3, P.R.; 1831, c. 40, s. 2; R.C., c. 34, s. 47; Code, s. 1000; Rev., s. 3626; C.S., s. 4211; 1979, c. 760, s. 5; 1979, 2nd Sess., c. 1316, s. 47; 1981, c. 63, s. 1, c. 179, s. 14; 1993, c. 539, s. 1134; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c).)

And that law goes all the way back to 1754.

My assumption (and it’s only a guess) is that the earlier iterations of these anti-castration laws were designed, in considerable measure, to prevent revenge or honor crimes, where some guy would find out that some other guy had fucked his wife or daughter, and go after his jewels with a knife.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-brothers-on-the-sdmb-let-us-mourn-for-our-fellow-man-newslink/624600/20 "2012-06-11T06:04:52Z")

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Bail was set at $20,000.00. Or 10K a ball.

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