# Oh, My Freaking God! (Looong!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 13, 2003, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128 "2003-07-13T07:55:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/201 "2003-07-24T20:24:36Z")
What the hell? You all have something against Saggatarius’s? And **Dave** , I agree with **Salem** , do not, I reapeat _DO NOT_ go anywhere near that beach if you haven’t heard from her! ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Dreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Simple\_Dreamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Dreamer)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/202 "2003-07-24T21:39:53Z")
Why do some women treat such nice (read great, sweet, wonderful) guys so badly. It’s giving us Libra women (sorry I’m not availbale) a bad rep. I’ll open up a can on her iffin ya want Dave. ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/203 "2003-07-24T23:41:11Z")
> [@](#): > > I’ll open up a can on her iffin ya want Whooo Hoooo…\*claims first dibs on the video rights for “The Battle of the Scales Women!” Ok, ok, I can’t speak for D.Bear on this one, but, I can make be a Very open minded man, I’ll expand the invitation to Libras AND “Saggatarius’s,” well, at Least wine-loving Saggatarius’s, others upon entrance exams and or personal recommendations … oh, and for all my current and previous typos :smack: The one and Original “I think you’re cool and all … but …” ---
**Author:** ![tanookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tanookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanookie)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/204 "2003-07-24T23:46:02Z")
What exactly are you implying about Saggitarius people there Wyatt? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Dreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Simple\_Dreamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Dreamer)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/205 "2003-07-24T23:55:41Z")
_thinks Wyatt is gonna be in trooooouuuubbble_ ---
**Author:** ![Salem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Salem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salem)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/206 "2003-07-25T00:18:37Z")
Hey **Wyatt** , You’re really cool and all, BUT… **tanookie** is pregnant. Don’t mess with a pregnant woman. It can be downright dangerous. Even if you’re really cool and all. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Davebear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@Davebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davebear)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/207 "2003-07-25T00:20:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Salem \* > \*\*Do Not get a hotel room at the beach if you don’t hear from her. \*\* Yeah, all right. It didn’t seem like a totally good idea, anyway. > [@](#): > > \*\*Dave, have you and she talked about relationships at all? I mean in a general context. \*\* Well, not directly. One of the minor alarms she set off was the lack of interest in my past. She may have just been expecting me to start blurting it out, but that wasn’t going to happen. What she told me about her own past was that she had been married for 13 years, and since then had only dated one other guy, which was for a year. She also said she didn’t want to be seen on the beach with “a string of men, one after the other”. I took this as a positive sign, since we’d been seen together, at her business and her favorite bar. But, I may have been overly optimistic. So, my impression was that she, like me, was a “relationship person”, rather than a casual dater. I could have been wrong about that, too. > [@](#): > > \*\* I really hope you get this straightened out one way or another. I know the “not knowing” must be just killing you. Hell, it’s killing me and half the posters on this board! \*\* Well, it’s almost over, I think. Almost 8:30, and not a word. At this point, I’m offering 10 to 1 she doesn’t call. And, if she doesn’t, that’s it. It’s a heartless, rude way to deliver a message, but it’s effective. Even dopes like me can understand it. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wyatt \* > \*\*Would be Entirely too ironic, if I let slip a relationship with a beautiful Libran by being too much on the ‘gentlemanly’ side of things … And that was what was happening out there, too! \*\* Sorry, **Wyatt** , you’re cool and everything, but you’re also new, here, so you wouldn’t get it. The “Davebear, the sex fiend” was a reference to my reputation, here, among those who only read sex threads, and therefore think that’s all I’m interested in. > [@](#): > > \*\* Solution!!! OK, All you Lovely Lovely Libran women, just Line on UP! D.Bear will have casual ‘romance’ with you on the coast that sorta voted For George, Wyatt will do the honors on the coast that didn’t, and all y’all there in the middle, flip a coin, pick a direction and get chur plane tickets!\*\* Yeah! We should _be_ so lucky! [sub]It may not work, unless Mark’s around, but it’s worth a shot.[/sub] > [@](#): > > \*\* [wimper] and you get to be “I think you’re a very sweet guy” … I get to be “Sorry Wyatt …” [/wimper]\*\* Aw, quit yer whinin’! No one calls _me_ cool. Especially not every time they answer me. 😉 > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lezlers \* > \*\*What the hell? You all have something against Saggatarius’s? \*\* Yeah. Too “Saggy”. 😉 No, actually I have nothing against Sagittarians, except that they don’t want to date me, either. Wait, was my first wife a Sag or a Cap?? Can’t remember. Guess it doesn’t really matter. That wasn’t the problem; it was the fact that she was a Slut From Hell™ that caused problems. > [@](#): > > \*\*And Dave, I agree with Salem, do not, I reapeat DO NOT go anywhere near that beach if you haven’t heard from her! \*\* 'kay. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Simple Dreamer \* > \*\*Why do some women treat such nice (read great, sweet, wonderful) guys so badly. It’s giving us Libra women (sorry I’m not availbale) a bad rep. I’ll open up a can on her iffin ya want Dave. \*\* Thanks, Dream Girl. 🙂 I’m sorry you’re not available, too. 😃 (No, I know you didn’t mean it that way. Just teasing.) Sorry, **Wyatt** , you’re cool and everything, but I can’t think a single worthwhile response to your last post. Well, I went rollerblading after work, and communed a bit with my old friend Ma Nature. That was nice, but it didn’t take enough time. I guess it’s time to go commune with my newer friend Mr DVD. Gonna be a long evening. And, an even longer weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/208 "2003-07-25T00:23:37Z")
uh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh … ancient oriental curse … “May you live in _interesting_ times and draw the attention of important people.” Uh, well, I, uh, well, uh, I was, I mean, I, _studying shoes_ Uh, would opening the field to wine loving AND cute-pregnant … ☹ _Important rule: When one recognizes one is digging one’s self in, first, Stop Digging!_ Uh… well, I can “make be” Very **Delighted** to open the invitation to ALL Saggatarius’s whether they love wine or not??? _smiles his BEST, " please-don’t-whup-my-“cool and all”-butt-out-here-in-front-of-everyone smile_😃 Can I get you some chocolate??? a foot rub?? Oh, Look! Over there! —\> isn’t that **Dave** getting a return call from the Blonde Beach Beauty??? ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Dreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Simple\_Dreamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Dreamer)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/209 "2003-07-25T00:32:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Davebear \* > Thanks, Dream Girl. 🙂 I’m sorry you’re not available, too. 😃 (No, I know you didn’t mean it that way. Just teasing.) :o Didn’t even think about it reading that way. :o ---
**Author:** ![Cyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@Cyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyn)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/210 "2003-07-25T00:49:55Z")
Like I said, I would’ve called you back—as a Libra woman, I have no patience when it comes to romance and even as a BIT of a Rules girl, when I did not take men’s numbers or call them, I always returned calls/emails, even if I wasn’t ready for Forever After. The alarms set off about not wanting to know about your past… there should’ve been another alarm tripped at the her paying for dinner—non-traditional role for a first date equaling a non-traditional outcome. Take comfort in her enjoying your kisses: you got to give and get good kisses. Yes, she’s quite silly to miss out on many more kisses, but she evidently has an agenda she’s not willing to share. Still, I hope she will share with you and calls. ---
**Author:** ![Davebear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@Davebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davebear)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/211 "2003-07-25T02:51:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wyatt \* > \*\*Oh, Look! Over there! —\> isn’t that **Dave** getting a return call from the Blonde Beach Beauty??? \*\* Sorry, **Wyatt** , you’re…ah f\*ck it…no. It isn’t, I didn’t, she didn’t. And…ow! > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Simple Dreamer \* > \*\*:o Didn’t even think about it reading that way. :o \*\* Well, you know me. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cyn \* > \*\*The alarms set off about not wanting to know about your past…there should’ve been another alarm tripped at the her paying for dinner—non-traditional role for a first date equaling a non-traditional outcome. \*\* There was, but it was overridden, when she seemed to say there would be a second date. I can’t really recommend the movie, The Others. Nicely filmed, surprisingly well acted, but it didn’t maintain the tension. Maybe Bertie and Jeeves can make me laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/212 "2003-07-25T03:00:21Z")
Yup … timing IS everything … My attempt at a “cool-and-all” butt saving distraction read SO much better while I was previewing it, apparently while you were posting your update. :rolleyes: All smart-ass’d kidding aside, ouch. I hurt with/for ya, Dude. Feeling your way through the fog, trying to figure out where you are, just sucks!☹ ---
**Author:** ![KP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a9adbd/32.png) [@KP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KP)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/213 "2003-07-25T05:02:21Z")
Yeah, Dave, It sounds like your next conversation should include a little chat on expectations and etiquette. This will probably freak her out a bit (possibly immediately, but defeinitely after she’s slept on it, based on her past pattern), but hey, the status quo ain’t workin’ for ya - I think we agree you don’t want months more of this. I bet you get a sincere apology (she did, after all, pass your intuition test for ‘nice gal’ - we’ll address _that_ issue in some other thread) Alas, from my experience, my male Libran friend’s, and a few posts in this thread, I wonder if anything will change. Bottom line: she’s a knock-out (I may wonder about your intuition, but I’ll accept your taste) and even if she’s not consciously aware of it or not, she’s probably always had a bit of slack cut for her. I would not call it “playing games”; it’s just what her life experience taught her. She probably wants to be (and thinks she is) very nice. Since I first opened this thread, I’ve been wondering why she was in a bar that she’s never really frequented in years of living nearby. I’m not sure you can get a straight answer on that one, but it’s key. As for the gentleman vs. scoundrel issue: That’s an issue my pal Libran and I bounced around for years. He’s Handsome. When he’s just kicking around and casual, as he usually is, he’s handsome-cute (and looks about 20 years less than his real age. We were friends for years before I realized he was five years older than me, not younger, and once -on what I can only hope was a bad face day for me- he got mistaken for my son though we look _nothing_ alike. He’s also a fair gentleman (though very interested in sex) and a stand-up guy who is true to his word in every detail. He’s also a part-time musician, with a lucrative technical day job. Me? On the handsomeness scale I’m… funny. I don’t scare children and pets (I should, but I have a peuliar charm for them. I think they confuse me for a kewpie doll and want to huggle me until my eyes bug out). Though I am far more interested in emotional intimacy than sex (I’ve always been a man-slut: a guy who puts out hoping that things will develop, and they not-infrequently don’t) Which one of us do you think has the better track record? You guessed it: there is no God. It’s me. He’s much more concerned with propriety, while I’m ‘nothing ventured nothing gained’ and “I’m cool, jack, and she’ll figure that out eventually.” My female friends often remark on his looks and personality, yet when we go out he gets all the attention, but I get the follow-up dates. There’s nothing wrong with evincing an open interest. Sure, it can come across as creepy or rude (our society has twisted values) but, c’mon, we’re all adults, and even if we’re not always sure about the ultimate destination, we all know the essential landmarks along the way, and presumably enjoy visiting them. Coyness doesn’t help. At this point, I’d say you don;t have much to lose with the “What are you looking for?” conversation ---
**Author:** ![Davebear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@Davebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davebear)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/214 "2003-07-25T12:57:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wyatt \* > \*\*Yup … timing IS everything … \*\* Sorry, **Wyatt** , you’re _still_ cool and everything. (No “but”, this time.) It was, as you say, bad timing on my part. **KP** - yeah, I wish we could have had that conversation. But, it’s not to be, apparently. I don’t think my intuition was wrong about her, either. Everything I learned about her told me we could have been very happy together, for a long time to come, if things had gotten to the point where we _were_ together. I guess it’s one of those “other influences” cases. I just don’t know what the influence was, in this case. She _did_ seem surprised that I was 44 (she _said_ she thought I was in me early thirties…not sure I buy that), but I have no idea if that was enough to kill the deal. And, it’s not like she’s too young for me. I don’t know her age, but her ex is 50, and she’s “a little younger”. (Damn, I’m old!) I just wish I had something to do, today. I’d go to work, but I’d just be in the way of the movers, with nothing to do. ---
**Author:** ![October](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@October](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/October)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/215 "2003-07-25T13:07:29Z")
Man, that sucks. No two ways about it. I really have nothing to add, except my sympathy. ---
**Author:** ![tanookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tanookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanookie)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/216 "2003-07-25T13:18:52Z")
You can come hang some shelves for me 🙂 This is not as easy as it sounds as a small imp will steal all necessary parts and tools every time you blink an eye! I also have a rock wall that needs to be built and some trees that need trimming. 😉 Seriously you have a beautiful friday off?!?! Go rollerblading, catch a movie, have lunch somewhere fun. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/217 "2003-07-25T13:25:33Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Davebear \*\*\* > … surprised that I was 44 (she said she thought I was in me early thirties…not sure I buy that), but I have no idea if that was enough to kill the deal. And, it’s not like she’s too young for me. I don’t know her age, but her ex is 50, and she’s “a little younger”. (Damn, I’m old!)_\* Hey!!! I’m 44, and I’m not old! Neither are you! [QUOTE] _Originally posted by Salem \*\*\* Do Not get a hotel room at the beach if you don’t hear from her._\* I guess Salem and everyone is right. But go do something to take your mind off it! Go listen to a live band somewhere, and enjoy yourself like you were the night you met her. (and **Wyatt** –you are cool _and_ sweet… 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/218 "2003-07-25T14:17:32Z")
Maybe when you’re done with **tanookie’s** stuff, you can swing by here and help me out? I managed to fracture my foot yesterday… Seriously, though, I’m sorry that this woman turned out to be a disappointment. You deserve better. ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Dreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Simple\_Dreamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Dreamer)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/219 "2003-07-25T14:27:38Z")
> [@](#): > > Seriously, though, I’m sorry that this woman turned out to be a disappointment. You deserve better. I’m in full agreement. ---
**Author:** ![cgholycow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@cgholycow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cgholycow)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/220 "2003-07-25T15:19:49Z")
what is wrong with this girl? :smack: the last time anyone i know pulled something like this was in college when most people are still pretty immature when it comes to relationships. even I know better than to pull a vanishing act like this… and i’m really stupid when it comes to my relationships. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128.md?page=12)