# Oh, My Freaking God! (Looong!)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 13, 2003, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128 "2003-07-13T07:55:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Davebear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@Davebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davebear)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/721 "2003-08-22T12:12:34Z")

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Yes, eye flick. It’s the simplest way of asking the lady’s permission to kiss her. Assuming you’re both feeling good about each other, you’re likely to be facing her straight-on, and probably fairly close together. If you’re not, moving into that position is step one. If she turns away, frowns, or backs off, stop. You’re done, and you ain’t gettin’ no kiss.

If she stands her ground, and maintains eye contact, she wants you to kiss her. Or, in the case of the clueless, at least trusts you aren’t going to do something objectionable. If you’ve gotten close enough so that you can make contact, if you both lean in a little, you’re in the right position, and the signs are good. That’s when you do the eye flick.

It’s not a wink, a blink, or any other eyelid thing. In fact blinking is bad, at this point. You want to maintain eye contact, _except_ during the flick. The flick is simply making eye contact, then flicking a glance down at her lips, and back to her eyes. If it’s the first time you’re kissing this particular person, it’s probably a good idea (and may be unavoidable, if you’re nervous, but that’s fine) to do it several times as you slowly close the distance between you. But, the key is the eye contact. You want to maintain it as much as you can, breaking off **only** for the flick to her mouth.

If she doesn’t pull away, turn away, or look away, the answer is “Yes! I want you to kiss me!” Even the clueless will turn away if they don’t want to kiss you, when you get too close. (If that happens, give them the softest, sweetest kiss on the cheek you can.) It works for both sexes, too; the kisser asks, the kissee answers, both using the same signals. Doesn’t matter who takes which role, though it’s usually the man making the move.

**Flamsterette\_X** - yep, major typo.

**Masstricht** - how nice of you to come out of lurk-mode. But, don’t feel badly. I’m sure you know of it, but never gave it a name.

**tanookie** - I don’t know **Parallax** very well, but I suspect he’s another one of the relatively clueless, like **Robot Arm** and me. At times, I can pick up the hints; at other times, I’m completely oblivious, as several of the posters in this thread have pointed out.

**mipiace** - if you’re still lurking around here, I’m sorry. That joke came out sounding much angrier than I intended.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to go call the plumber and the liquor store. I wonder how large a tub we can fit in this thread.

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**Author:** ![tanookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tanookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanookie)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/722 "2003-08-22T12:12:44Z")

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I’d think he was blinking… I’ll stick with what works and not try and learn any of this complicated stuff 🙂

I feel for you single people. I really really do!

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**Author:** ![Davebear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@Davebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davebear)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/723 "2003-08-22T12:14:08Z")

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Shoulda previewed. Of course my Dream Girl would know about the eye flick!

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**Author:** ![tanookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tanookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanookie)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/724 "2003-08-22T12:16:53Z")

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Yeah great a hot tub and some alcohol.

**And I can partake of neither!**

Sadistic bastards 🙂

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Dreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Simple\_Dreamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Dreamer)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/725 "2003-08-22T13:15:58Z")

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Ah, but Dave, you spelled it out much more clearly. 🙂 I’ve known about the eye flick for… well… ages. 😉

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**Author:** ![peritrochoid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@peritrochoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peritrochoid)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/726 "2003-08-22T13:26:59Z")

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Count me among the clueless … or partially clueless anyway …

Never _knowingly_ done the eye flick, but I think I _have_ done it out of “instinct”. It just seems natural … after all, gotta make sure of what you’re aiming at. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Davebear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@Davebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davebear)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/727 "2003-08-22T13:45:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by tanookie \*  
> \*\*Yeah great a hot tub and some alcohol.
> 
> **And I can partake of neither!**
> 
> Sadistic bastards 🙂 \*\*

Sorry, kiddo. How about if I bring you a good pizza, to make up for it?

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> \*Originally posted by Simple Dreamer \*  
> **Ah, but Dave, you spelled it out much more clearly. 🙂 I’ve known about the eye flick for… well… ages. 😉**

Well, it can’t _really_ have been ages. You’re much too young for that.

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> \*Originally posted by peritrochoid \*  
> \*\*Count me among the clueless … or partially clueless anyway …
> 
> Never knowingly done the eye flick, but I think I have done it out of “instinct”. It just seems natural … after all, gotta make sure of what you’re aiming at. 🙂 \*\*

Sure. It _is_ a natural behavior. But, if you make yourself aware of it, it can be highly useful, beyond collision avoidance.

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Dreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Simple\_Dreamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Dreamer)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/728 "2003-08-22T13:48:17Z")

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OH! Dave! I meant to tell you… I think of you every afternoon now. 😉

Granted it’s because I see a lady at my oldest son’s school with her ferrit on a leash… but I still think of you. 😉

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**Author:** ![tanookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tanookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanookie)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/729 "2003-08-22T13:50:44Z")

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Ok… ply me with pizza… I won’t be towel girl though 🙂

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**Author:** ![peritrochoid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@peritrochoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peritrochoid)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/730 "2003-08-22T13:56:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Davebear \*  
> \*\*… if you make yourself aware of it, it can be highly useful, beyond collision avoidance. \*\*

Hmm … it _does_ sound quite useful … methinks some practice is in order this weekend. 😉

Oh and, **Simple Dreamer** , your previous post was hilarious! 😃 Looks like **Wyatt** ’s got some competition!

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/731 "2003-08-22T14:25:01Z")

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Oh…_that_ eye-flick.

…right before the glasses click. ☹

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**Author:** ![Davebear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@Davebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davebear)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/732 "2003-08-22T14:37:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Simple Dreamer \*  
> \*\*OH! Dave! I meant to tell you… I think of you every afternoon now. 😉
> 
> Granted it’s because I see a lady at my oldest son’s school with her ferret on a leash… but I still think of you. 😉 \*\*

Hey, I’ll take what I can get. 😉

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> \*Originally posted by tanookie \*  
> \*\*Ok… ply me with pizza… I won’t be towel girl though 🙂 \*\*

How about masseuse? 😉

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> \*Originally posted by peritrochoid \*  
> \*\*Hmm … it does sound quite useful … methinks some practice is in order this weekend. 😉 \*\*

Hmm. Sounds like _your_ love life has picked up, since last I heard.

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> \*Originally posted by Maastricht \*  
> \*\*Oh…that eye-flick.
> 
> …right before the glasses click. ☹ \*\*

Awww! {{{ **Maastricht** }}}

But, that’s way too late. By the time your glasses are in danger of clicking, you’ve already said yes. Want to try it with me? I don’t wear glasses. 🙂

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**Author:** ![tanookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tanookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanookie)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/733 "2003-08-22T14:50:38Z")

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What’s all this about the guy being the one to have to move in for the kiss anyway?

If I waited for Parallax to get up the nerve… I’d still be waiting!

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/734 "2003-08-22T15:00:00Z")

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Yeah, me too, **Tanookie**. Seems to be a major problem with Nice Guystm. They don’t trust their gut on when the right moment is, and end up letting it pass by two or three times, til you finally get exasperated and take matters into your own hands. So to speak.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/735 "2003-08-22T15:06:54Z")

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**DaveBear** , you don’t give classes, do you?

Mmm… this is _educational_.

Any thoughts on the right use of charged silences, anyone?

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**Author:** ![peritrochoid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@peritrochoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peritrochoid)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/736 "2003-08-22T15:21:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Davebear \*  
> **Sounds like _your_ love life has picked up, since last I heard.**

Nah, not really … well, let’s just say _I don’t know yet_. Turns out the girl I had posted about a few weeks ago just flaked-out again early this week and asked me if I wanted to go to a local Shakespeare festival tonight. It took me a day or so to decide. I finally said ‘yes’. So, who knows. I have no idea what her intentions are, so I’m going into it with my eyes and ears open and no expectations except to have fun. Maybe it was an innocent _just friends_ gesture, so I’ll take each moment as it comes. _Maybe_ she’s changed her mind again. After all (this will sound SOOO arrogant, but it’s damn near true …), I am quite a catch for a lady looking for something a bit different in this town … I _don’t_ like NASCAR and I do NOT think Budweiser is the king of beers. Quite the rare find 'round here. Or maybe she’s just looking for some fun before she leaves. Hey, I’ll take another weekend like we had if we both understand that a fling is all it is. 😃

So, I’m gonna just enjoy the evening, the company, and the festival. _If_ something else comes up, bonus! Maybe then I’ll get some practice with the eye flick. 😉

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Dreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Simple\_Dreamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Dreamer)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/737 "2003-08-22T15:24:52Z")

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Rocky, watch for her touching you (hand on your arm, shoulder, hand, etc). Usually a clue that she’s interested. Also (and I’m telling on myself here) I tend to watch a guys lips a lot if I want a kiss, but the moment hasn’t presented itself yet. Good luck! And be sure and share if anything interesting does happen! 😃

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**Author:** ![Davebear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@Davebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davebear)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/738 "2003-08-22T16:59:15Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by tanookie \*  
> \*\*What’s all this about the guy being the one to have to move in for the kiss anyway?
> 
> If I waited for Parallax to get up the nerve… I’d still be waiting! \*\*

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> \*Originally posted by tanookie \*  
> **It works for both sexes, too; the kisser asks, the kissee answers, both using the same signals. _Doesn’t matter who takes which role, though it’s usually the man making the move._**

Are you coming down with Coldfire Syndrome, too?

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**Author:** ![tanookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tanookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanookie)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/739 "2003-08-22T17:23:33Z")

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Uhhhhhhh I don’t remember posting that second part and I don’t know what Coldfire Syndrome is.

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**Author:** ![White\_Ink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@White\_Ink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Ink)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-freaking-god-looong/188128/740 "2003-08-22T17:44:05Z")

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> Maybe White Ink should move to a white piece of paper. Then no one would notice her, and she wouldn’t have to do anything.

Location duly changed per your recommendation. Am I invisible yet?

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