# Oh my fucking god. I cannot stand the far left

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**Created:** [August 8, 2024, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406 "2024-08-08T04:27:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/We_re_wolves_not_werewolves)\
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> [@Babale](#):
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> That’s not to say that all Christians and all of Christianity is Crusades, Inquisitions, and the Lord’s Resistance Army. But those things ARE part of Christianity.

Correction, those things WERE part of Christianity. They are no longer part of any mainstream Christian denomination. The Lord’s Resistance Army is ostensibly based on some strained relationship with the ten commandments, but in reality is simply a cult of personality surrounding its founder.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/102 "2024-08-08T18:15:08Z")

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You might have some social traits in common with me, regardless of where you are on the political spectrum:

I worked a job in the US economy, linked to a global economy. I paid for a place to live (to a large bank) and stuff to eat, wear and use (mostly to large corporations, but independent handymen and Mom&Pops too). I _maintained a lawn_.

Does it really matter that someone somewhere thinks this makes us [Little Eichmanns?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Eichmanns)

If I let that bother me, I might as well go back to being ashamed of what the Church thinks about what my SO and I like to do.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
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> [@We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](#):
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> The Lord’s Resistance Army is ostensibly based on some strained relationship with the ten commandments, but in reality is simply a cult of personality surrounding its founder.

So, the Judean People’s Front?

No, really, until/unless there’s an actual authority who effectively everybody in the world accepts as the undisputed arbiter of which groups are or are not Christian, self-identification is how we will have to judge.

Otherwise, you’ll just get into the slippery slope of “well, of course the \<insert Church here\> is not Christian” because of “whatever BS I happen to think”. And that may include Mormons. Or Protestants in general. Or any other group, major or marginal, just because somebody thinks “well, they don’t believe _this_ critical thing, so they can’t be Christian”.

Likewise however the OP defines “far left”. If they’re the only arbiter of that, that’s BS. Self-identified “far leftists” who do not fit that mold get to have a say about that.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/104 "2024-08-08T18:33:30Z")

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If anyone is on Facebook, searching for “communist memes” will open a treasure trove of the kind of idiocy the OP is talking about.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/105 "2024-08-08T18:39:48Z")

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Ridiculous caricatures of the left you mean?

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/106 "2024-08-08T18:43:22Z")

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They may be ridiculous caricatures, and there may be some level of irony here that escapes me, but on the surface, these people seem entirely serious posting things like “Stalin was the greatest hero in human history”. Lots of calls for the Israeli Jewish population to be “sent back to Europe”, too. (and to be clear, that search term will lead to LOTS of similar pages)

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
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> [@veryfrank](#):
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> > [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> > It’s an aspect of what various people have said; that the most important difference between the far left and far right is that the former are marginalized, while the latter are in control of the Republicans.
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> I’ve been saying basically this for years. The worst sterotypes of the extreme left (granola-crunching, hug-a-criminal, free drugs for everyone) are limited in power to tie-died co-op boards. The worst stereotypes of the extreme right (reverse every bit of progress on civil rights, women back into the kitchen, corporations above citizens, arm everybody) have representatives in Congress. Anytime someone complains about the radical left pulling the strings of the Democratic Party, the false equivalency drives me nuts.

I completely agree. As a center leftist, I have issues with both the far left and the center right. But ideally we’d all be able to come together as far leftists, center leftists, centrists and center rights to stop the far right fascists from destroying the country.

I was very frustrated when I made this thread last night. I’m much calmer now that I’ve vented and broken things off with the group I was interacting with.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/108 "2024-08-08T18:46:35Z")

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It’s cool, I think we’ve all done our share of rage-posting (OK, I personally have probably done more than my share).

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> It’s an aspect of what various people have said; that the most important difference between the far left and far right is that the former are marginalized, while the latter are in control of the Republicans. I do recall far left people demanding that the DSA support Putin and the invasion/genocide of Ukraine; the DSA just said “ha, no” and ignored them. And so the DSA went on their list of “fascist enemies of the left wing” (it’s a _long_ list).

Thats not surprising.

Recently Bernie Sanders was giving a speech and in it he mentioned that Israel had a right to defend itself. He was booed for saying that. Not by everyone, but by some of them. ’

AOC spoke out against anti-semitism recently. Some people on the far left were holding anti-semitic protests in NYC. AOC spoke out against antisemitism and said it has no place in left wing politics. Now I’ve met several far leftists who think AOC is a sellout too.

So now the DSA, AOC and Bernie Sanders are all sellouts to some on the far left.

> **[Antisemitic Pro-Palestine Group Set To Protest Alexandria-Ocasio Cortez at...](https://www.algemeiner.com/2024/06/21/antisemitic-pro-palestine-group-set-to-protest-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-at-rally/)**
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> Within Our Lifetime (WOL) a prominent, pro-Palestine activist group, is planning a mass protest during an upcoming June 22 appearance by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY). Cortez, a left-wing member of the U.S. Congress who is one of the most...

These people are fucking nuts. Thank god they have no real power.

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> [@We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](#):
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> The Lord’s Resistance Army is ostensibly based on some strained relationship with the ten commandments, but in reality is simply a cult of personality surrounding its founder.

Yes, but isn’t Christianity?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/111 "2024-08-08T19:12:24Z")

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Um, the idea that unbelievers should be persecuted or killed and Christianity spread by the sword is _quite_ powerful in the US at least. It’s the “social justice” parts of Christianity that get marginalized.

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/112 "2024-08-08T19:22:53Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> God fucking forbid you refer to someone as pansexual when they are really demisexual.

Does everyone but me know the meaning of demisexual? I had to look it up. The prefix is all wrong. Doesn’t “demi” usually mean half? How does having mainly secondary attractions translate to “half” attractions? I’m gettin’ too old for this.

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/113 "2024-08-08T19:22:54Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> …asshole Quakers…

Band name?

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/114 "2024-08-08T19:28:22Z")

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> [@Tfletch1](#):
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> Does everyone but me know the meaning of demisexual? I had to look it up. The prefix is all wrong. Doesn’t “demi” usually mean half? How does having mainly secondary attractions translate to “half” attractions? I’m gettin’ too old for this.

I don’t get the etymology either. But it might be my tribe.

Eh - labels…

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/115 "2024-08-08T19:32:30Z")

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Warm-up band: Hole & Oats.

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> [@Tfletch1](#):
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> > [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> > God fucking forbid you refer to someone as pansexual when they are really demisexual.
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> Does everyone but me know the meaning of demisexual? I had to look it up. The prefix is all wrong. Doesn’t “demi” usually mean half? How does having mainly secondary attractions translate to “half” attractions? I’m gettin’ too old for this.

Well, theres sex, gender and sexual orientation. And they come in about 30+ flavors all together.

Sex is how your body physically looks. AFAB, AMAB, etc.

Gender is how you identify.

Sexual orientation is what you’re attracted to.

Pansexual means you can be attracted to anyone

Demisexual means you’re only attracted to people you have an emotional connection with

Sapiosexual means you’re attracted to someone intelligent.

Pansexuals are bisexual, but not all bisexuals are pansexual.

But god fucking help you if you use the wrong term with oversensitive people.

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> But god fucking help you if you use the wrong term with oversensitive people.

Yes, they might start a Pit thread about it.

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Well, theres sex, gender and sexual orientation. And they come in about 30+ flavors all together.
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> Sex is how your body physically looks. AFAB, AMAB, etc.
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> Gender is how you identify.
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> Sexual orientation is what you’re attracted to.
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> Pansexual means you can be attracted to anyone
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> Demisexual means you’re only attracted to people you have an emotional connection with
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> Sapiosexual means you’re attracted to someone intelligent.
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> Pansexuals are bisexual, but not all bisexuals are pansexual.
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> But god fucking help you if you use the wrong term with oversensitive people.

Everything in your post makes sense except for demisexual. I would suggest emotisexual, but people would think that means attracted to emoticons. Can’t say emosexual because that would imply only being attracted to heavy eyeliner and self-loathing. Fall-in-love-sexual is too long. Well, whatever, someone needs to get a better name because demisexual is goofy. Damn kids.

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It means you’re only attracted to elves, dwarves and halflings.

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> But god fucking help you if you use the wrong term with oversensitive people.

Unless the person in question has explicitly asked to be referred to in a particular manner then they have no grounds to complain. There is no way anyone can know how someone else identifies unless they are told.

I’ve never seen someone get bent out of shape over this to random people. Not saying such people are not out there but I think they are pretty rare and certainly not something to paint an entire group with.

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