# Oh my fucking god. I cannot stand the far left

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 8, 2024, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406 "2024-08-08T04:27:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/141 "2024-08-08T20:34:52Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> how do you feel about the subset of black people who have responded to the civil rights movement that gave them freedoms and opportunities by embracing criminality, out of wedlock pregnancy

I feel like I’m reading something from Stormfront.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/142 "2024-08-08T20:36:39Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> This is somewhat off topic, but how do you feel about the subset of black people who have responded to the civil rights movement that gave them freedoms and opportunities by embracing criminality, out of wedlock pregnancy, rejecting education and literacy as being ‘too white’, etc?

Roughly the same way I feel about the freed slaves who went on to become alcoholics or same-sex couples who – once allowed to marry – went on to divorce: equality under the law isn’t a guarantee of outcomes.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/143 "2024-08-08T20:37:27Z")

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Coming from you, that means a…My ghod, that kitten is cute, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/144 "2024-08-08T20:38:06Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> I realize the pit is a magnet for toxic, dysfunctional people looking for someone/anyone to attack and harm to cover up their own internal wounds.

Do tell.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/145 "2024-08-08T20:38:20Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> I realize the pit is a magnet for toxic, dysfunctional people looking for someone/anyone to attack and harm to cover up their own internal wounds.

\< clicks on “Next Day Delivery” for that mirror order \>

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/146 "2024-08-08T20:38:32Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Do I want to live in a society where everyone who isn’t heteronormative is considered mentally ill, shoved into the closet and thrown in jail? No.
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> Do I want to live in a society where I have to listen to condescending lectures from morally bankrupt pseudointellectuals over pedantic terminology? Also no.

On the one hand, you’re annoyed by pedants.  
On the other hand, gay people thrown in prison.

I’ll take a thousand of these over excited champions of sexual equality over letting a single well meaning sexually atypical person being harassed over who they are.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/147 "2024-08-08T20:38:43Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Despite you pretending eveyrone loves you, in real life and online the only people who probably like you are just as toxic as you are.

I like him as much as one can like an Internet acquaintance, and everyone knows I’m a veritable monument to virtue.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/148 "2024-08-08T20:38:57Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> I realize the pit is a magnet for toxic, dysfunctional people looking for someone/anyone to attack and harm to cover up their own internal wounds.

Self realization is the first step. Good luck!

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/149 "2024-08-08T20:39:07Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> This is somewhat off topic, but how do you feel about the subset of black people who have responded to the civil rights movement that gave them freedoms and opportunities by embracing criminality, out of wedlock pregnancy, rejecting education and literacy as being ‘too white’, etc?

I think this is a sentence that could only have been written by a racist moron.

First off, it’s not like criminality, out of wedlock pregnancy, and rejection of education weren’t options for black people _before_ the civil rights movement, so I don’t know why you’re conflating the two.

Secondly, it’s not like any of things are unknown among white people, or indeed among any large group of humans.

(Pause to acknowledge that “out of wedlock pregnancy” is only a problem within the context of a patriarchial society which doesn’t value women or children)

Lastly, black people in America suffer immensely from the legacy of structural racism and generational poverty, which explains the many social problems that community faces. If you think it’s just because black people are somehow intrinsically more likely to make poor life choices than white people, then guess what! You are a racist moron.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/150 "2024-08-08T20:40:50Z")

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Really appreciating Czarcasm repeatedly dunking on the OP here. 👍

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/151 "2024-08-08T20:45:00Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> I like him as much as one can like an Internet acquaintance, and everyone knows I’m a veritable monument to virtue.

I thought you were a _paragon of_ virtue.

Or an autonomous collective.

This shit is **hard.**

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/152 "2024-08-08T20:50:21Z")

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Let’s just say “virtue incarnate.”

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/153 "2024-08-08T20:53:03Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> embracing criminality, out of wedlock pregnancy, rejecting education and literacy as being ‘too white’, etc?

“And don’t get me started on the Welfare Queens, amirite?”

This is such a hilarious self-own of a thread, you dumb racist fuck.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/154 "2024-08-08T21:07:04Z")

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Some people at pit-asexuals.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/155 "2024-08-08T21:12:25Z")

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It’s a bit disingenuous to say that the progressive left, which is pretty far left, has no power in the USA. They have disproportionate influence in many institutions. Which would be fine if their ideas were good and productive. However, they are not. The far left has been the most destructive force in history in terms of misery and body count.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/156 "2024-08-08T21:15:34Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> The far left has been the most destructive force in history in terms of misery and body count.

Absolutely! The body count of WWII would have much lower if those damned leftists hadn’t meddled in it.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/157 "2024-08-08T21:20:24Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> It’s a bit disingenuous to say that the progressive left, which is pretty far left, has no power in the USA. They have disproportionate influence in many institutions. […] The far left has been the most destructive force in history in terms of misery and body count.

It’s more than a bit disingenuous to try to conflate “the progressive left”, as the term is generally understood, with “the far left” in the OP’s sense of pro-communist kneejerk “rejectionists”, or with the actual communist totalitarian dictators that you denounce in the last sentence of your post.

No, the modern progressive left that actually does have some influence in some institutions is not even close to the crankish fringe “far left” that the OP is complaning about, much less to any kind of brutal Marxist dictatorship. You’ll strain yourself hauling those goalposts around at that speed.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/158 "2024-08-08T21:20:49Z")

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It’s a Dungeons and Dragons reference, [in-setting](https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Demihuman) “demihuman” means dwarves, elves, gnomes, and halflings.

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/159 "2024-08-08T21:21:38Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> This is somewhat off topic, but how do you feel about the subset of black people who have responded to the civil rights movement that gave them freedoms and opportunities by embracing criminality, out of wedlock pregnancy, rejecting education and literacy as being ‘too white’, etc?

I mostly lurk on this board, but have been here for several years. I know I’ve seen your posts. I never before pegged you as a racist, but this paragraph is your standard racist trope right there.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-fucking-god-i-cannot-stand-the-far-left/1005406/160 "2024-08-08T21:22:13Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> Really appreciating Czarcasm repeatedly dunking on the OP here. 👍

It is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Oops! Sorry about that.

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