# Oh my OG is this OS update incredible! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 28, 2005, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472 "2005-04-28T01:55:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/21 "2005-04-29T00:27:00Z")
The portion of the NDA which I’m talking about is the one where industry people are excluded from discussing any of the technologies before it hits SU. I’m surprised someone called **MacTech** would be unaware of the repercussions for doing so, regardless of how close it is to the SU. FYI, the latest seed was 8A428 - last week - whether that was GM or not there’s no way I could’ve discussed what was on it and expected to not catch an incredible amount of hell. Hence the flabbergasted…ness. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/22 "2005-04-29T01:17:45Z")
allright then, just to be on the safe side, lets nuke the thread from orbit, the only way to be sure 😉 we had lots of people calling in trying to buy it early, but it’s _NOT AVAILABLE_ until 6 PM tomorrow, got a problem with that, talk to Apple, the OS does not officially exist until 6 PM tomorrow ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/23 "2005-04-29T02:24:25Z")
David Pogue is showing screen shots on the New York Times site, so it’s not exactly a big-ass secret. Just saying. your humble TubaDiva ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/24 "2005-04-29T05:25:48Z")
> [@Dooku](#): > > The portion of the NDA which I’m talking about is the one where industry people are excluded from discussing any of the technologies before it hits SU. I’m surprised someone called **MacTech** would be unaware of the repercussions for doing so, regardless of how close it is to the SU. > > FYI, the latest seed was 8A428 - last week - whether that was GM or not there’s no way I could’ve discussed what was on it and expected to not catch an incredible amount of hell. Hence the flabbergasted…ness. I can only imagine the hell that could come from this thread! “Mr. Tech, did you or did you not go onto the internet and proclaim that the new Mac OS X is, and I quote, ‘freakin’ sweet?’ A full two days before the OS was released to the general public? And did you not, in this same discussion, list features specific to the new OS that have been described and demonstrated in text and videos on Apple’s website for a month before its release? Are you not, in fact, _doing free advertising for the Apple corporation?_” I’m as anal-retentive about NDAs as you can be without actually being a lawyer, and I can’t see how anyone could be “flabbergasted” by anything said in this thread. No offense to **MacTech** , but there’s not a single thing he’s said in any of his posts that I hadn’t already seen on Apple’s own website. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_griffin-kentzel/32/14787_2.png) [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/25 "2005-04-29T07:30:08Z")
Folks that pre-ordered Tiger (Mac OS 10.4) have been receiving their copies since yesterday. I have several friends who received theirs yesterday and today. Apple guaranteed delivery _by_ April 29th. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/26 "2005-04-29T08:15:15Z")
> [@gotpasswords](#): > > And how is it at talking to printers on Windows boxes? Getting our new PowerBook running Panther to speak to a USB printer on my XP box was so convoluted I was just about to chuck the whole idea and buy a small printer just for the PowerBook or buy a Mac to host the printer and chuck the XP box. Thats sorta what I had to do , except it was set up the hp on XP and then have mandrake look for the printer on the XP box , it was easier to have the puter running mandrake host the printer and have windows find it easily enough. Declan ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/27 "2005-04-29T18:10:39Z")
> [@SolGrundy](#): > > I’m as anal-retentive about NDAs as you can be without actually being a lawyer, and I can’t see how anyone could be “flabbergasted” by anything said in this thread. You would if you’d been dealing as closely with Apple’s paranoia about their unreleased stuff as I have for the last 11 years. Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/28 "2005-04-29T21:10:31Z")
**me:** > [@](#): > > Tell me about file sharing!! I keep asking and no one who has Tiger will tell me whether or not Apple fixed the #@@! file sharing!!! Can you now share a folder other than /Users/Foo to a non-admin user named “Foo”? Can you give “Foo” read/write FTP access to (for example) /Users/SomeoneElse/Music/iTunes if you yourself are an administrator? Without, that is, giving “Foo” read/write access to the entire computer? Can you now set up a share for an FTP user named “Foo” with password “fubar” without creating a full Account for “Foo” complete with /Users/Foo folder and its default subfolders and so forth? OK, folks… [here](http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/macosx-10.4.ars/8) is the stuff I’m asking about. Or rather, that’s the underpinnings. On reading it you can easily see how it would logically lead to far more granular control over file sharing. What I was asking was to what extent is this implemented in Tiger? (It looks like the architecture is in place but if I read this correctly the widgets for setting up this granular control haven’t made it to the GUI yet? Is that correct?) Looks like an account will continue to be necessary for any fileshare client, but the rest of what I’m looking for / hoping for looks very possible 🙂 C’mon, shareware geeks, write me an interface! ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2005, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/29 "2005-04-29T23:19:37Z")
Note that the above link is one page in a VERY detailed (and geeky) review of Tiger. Here is the link to the 1st page: [http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/macosx-10.4.ars?20533](http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/macosx-10.4.ars?20533) I been following Tiger, but did not know about kernal programming interfaces or the new way cool file type system. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Idlewild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8491ac/32.png) [@Idlewild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idlewild)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2005, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/30 "2005-04-30T01:58:49Z")
I love my new dictionary! Well, there are lots of things to love about Tiger (installed it last night, painless except for having to download some updates to Safari plugins) but for some reason the dictionary is making me very happy. ---
**Author:** ![wheelie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b4bc9f/32.png) [@wheelie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wheelie)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2005, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/31 "2005-04-30T03:11:22Z")
Wow. I don’t know what to be more impressed with, Dictionary or Spotlight. Or Dashboard. Okay, it’s Spotlight. Searching this quickly and deeply is just freakin’ amazing. 🆒 There’s a new [PithHelmet](http://www.culater.net/software/PithHelmet/PithHelmet.php) out for Safari RSS. Oh, look! It’s 76º and sunny in Webster, Texas. :smack: Would somebody at Accu-Weather get a window, or a clock? At least [Weatherpop](http://www.glu.com/products/weatherpop/) still works . Wish I could copy and paste from/into the translator widget. Oooh look! More widgets! Shiny! ---
**Author:** ![wheelie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b4bc9f/32.png) [@wheelie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wheelie)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2005, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/32 "2005-04-30T03:31:23Z")
Oops, I _can_ copy/paste in the translator. Meine Nippel explodieren mit Freude! ---
**Author:** ![Hoops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoops/32/6408_2.png) [@Hoops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoops)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2005, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/33 "2005-05-04T04:43:10Z")
Many interesting and underadvertised features of Tiger can be found in [this lengthy thread](http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?t=253278&page=1&pp=50) at the MacNN forums. (They certainly are a well-informed but fractious bunch over there 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2005, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/34 "2005-05-05T21:53:00Z")
I finally got and installed Tiger last night. I’m not blown away by it yet, but it’s already got enough improvements so far that I think it was worth it. One nice thing is that everything except iTunes (damn DRM issues) has improvements that make it pretty easy to transfer files from one machine to another. Getting the new machine in sync with my Powerbook has been less painless than I’d expected. And as for the Safari thing and link underlining: turns out that I am an idiot, as many have suspected all along. They give you the option under “Advanced” to use a master style sheet for everything; I can’t explain why it never occurred to me that that’s exactly what it’s for. Just a simple two-line text file: ```auto A { text-decoration: none; } A:hover { text-decoration: underline; } ``` Use that as your stylesheet in Safari, and it’s as simple as that. ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472/35 "2005-05-05T22:03:24Z")
And oh yeah. Here’s a pisser: the video card that ships with the Mac mini only has 32MB video memory (how did I miss _that_ in the spec?), so I don’t get to see all the new gee-whiz stuff. Like the ripple effect when you drop a widget on the dashboard. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-my-og-is-this-os-update-incredible/301472.md?page=1)