# Oh no! Isis dildo flag

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-isis-dildo-flag/723708>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 28, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-isis-dildo-flag/723708 "2015-06-28T16:25:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-isis-dildo-flag/723708/22 "2015-06-30T13:31:09Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I would have said the same thing. Sex toys on a flag are the last thing in the world that I’d look for. I would never make that connection until its pointed out. Sure, squint real hard and theres a butt plug. But there are so many phallic symbols that get created by mere chance. . You don’t when to say for sure that’s a dildo. Heck weathermen often draw storm fronts that look phallic . I don’t pay it any attention anymore.

Sex toys are not the last thing I’d look for at a Pride parade, though. Context.

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**Author:** ![Dingbang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@Dingbang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dingbang)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-isis-dildo-flag/723708/23 "2015-06-30T14:45:04Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> And: “Sex toys on a flag are the last thing in the world that I’d look for. I would never make that connection until its pointed out. Sure, squint real hard and theres a butt plug.” (quote from **aceplace57** ).
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> Srsly? Subversive act? Just to get attention? This was a _gay pride_ event! You see stuff there!
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> Sex toys the last thing you’d expect to see on a flag? Srsly? At a _gay pride_ event?
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> Have either of you dudes ever been to a gay pride event? These are not solemn rituals like Yom Kippur services. These are festive parades and street parties, more in the style of Mardi Gras. Except they have the good sense to hold these events on a warm summer day rather than a freezing rainy winter night. All kinds of _outré_ things are to be seen at gay pride events.
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> Subversive? 😕 I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Subversive? Eh, maybe not the best word choice. We could go with “provocative” and it doesn’t change anything about my point.

The pedantry about the nature of gay pride parades doesn’t change my point either. No matter how “_outré_” the event, people can still notice something that was, in fact, discordant with the event and intended to confuse.

I’d expect the same reaction if an NAACP march included a Confederate flag with the stars made of, I don’t know, pictures of MLK or something. People would see it and say, WTF? CNN was basically saying WTF.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-isis-dildo-flag/723708/24 "2015-06-30T18:49:16Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> For the record, I’d love to know where I could get a full picture of this flag’s design. 😃

There’s one in this Guardian article

> **[I created the Isis dildo flag at London Pride to start a dialogue, not get a...](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/30/isis-dildo-flag-london-pride-cnn?CMP=share_btn_tw)**
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> I flew the flag in London’s gay pride parade because Isis is deserving of mockery and disrespect. I never thought CNN would think it was real

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-isis-dildo-flag/723708/25 "2015-06-30T20:14:42Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> There’s one in this Guardian article
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> [I created the Isis dildo flag at London Pride to start a dialogue, not get a laugh | Paul Coombs | The Guardian](http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/30/isis-dildo-flag-london-pride-cnn?CMP=share_btn_tw)

Much obliged! I think sucker’s going in the bombing range on my flight sim—I had a certain OPFOR that was needing a flag. 🆒

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-isis-dildo-flag/723708/26 "2015-07-01T21:56:32Z")

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> [@Dingbang](#):
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> Subversive? Eh, maybe not the best word choice. We could go with “provocative” and it doesn’t change anything about my point.
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> The pedantry about the nature of gay pride parades doesn’t change my point either. No matter how “_outré_” the event, people can still notice something that was, in fact, discordant with the event and intended to confuse.
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> I’d expect the same reaction if an NAACP march included a Confederate flag with the stars made of, I don’t know, pictures of MLK or something. People would see it and say, WTF? CNN was basically saying WTF.

But CNN took it seriously and talked about Isis existing even in the middle of a gay pride parade and what that signified. You’re being far too generous to them.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-isis-dildo-flag/723708/27 "2015-07-01T23:30:02Z")

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Still the flag was recognizable as what it was only if you gave it more than a mere cursory look. And there’s some things on it that I don’t easily recognize, and fear to know how they would be used:o .

Yellow card anyway to the reporter for not bothering to figure it out. Maybe someone with the mentality that ISIS is something you don’t joke about. Or, as someone else said, once they realized what it was, they went “Holy crap, now we can’t SAY on the air what it IS!”

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-isis-dildo-flag/723708/28 "2015-07-03T08:04:35Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Still the flag was recognizable as what it was only if you gave it more than a mere cursory look. And there’s some things on it that I don’t easily recognize, and fear to know how they would be used:o .
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> Yellow card anyway to the reporter for not bothering to figure it out. Maybe someone with the mentality that ISIS is something you don’t joke about. Or, as someone else said, once they realized what it was, they went “Holy crap, now we can’t SAY on the air what it IS!”

Wouldn’t you expect someone to give more than a cursory glance at something before making a whole news segment about it? It seemed unlikely that a real Isis flag would be used at a gay pride parade, so examining it a little more closely would have been sensible.

Red card, not yellow card. Off the screen and not allowed to play for the next three editions. 😃

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