# Oh, no! Obama Imposes One-World Gov't On US!!1! (Interpol Exec order) **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 30, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079 "2009-12-30T19:53:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Xotan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/278dde/32.png) [@Xotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xotan)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/21 "2009-12-31T00:14:16Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > From the Inter-American Flounder Commission’s hearings calendar, “These are the times we try men’s soles.” 😛 And with a name like PolyCarp! tch!😛 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/22 "2009-12-31T00:43:22Z")
He is an indeterminate but multiple number of fishes, and loafs. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/23 "2009-12-31T01:19:38Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > As soon as I read the headline I knew this would be another one of those crazed oversimplifications of an issue that the extreme right likes to engage in. These are the same people who think we should go against the UN and most of the free world’s wishes and invade Iraq. Their interpretation of this Interpol thing should be mocked and then ignored I just want to point out that we generally would have similar “debates” here anytime Bush drafted an executive order or law - however innocuous. And while many posters across the spectrum would hash out the fine points in a calm manner there would be a share of nutcases not amenable to reason. [Just a single example./](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=421759) ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/24 "2009-12-31T01:36:26Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Dunno, but you can bet with an Orwellian name like INTERPOL their stormtroopers’ uniforms must be bitchin’. And they’ve got 200 couches where I can sleep tight. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/25 "2009-12-31T02:21:40Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > I just want to point out that we generally would have similar “debates” here anytime Bush drafted an executive order or law - however innocuous. And while many posters across the spectrum would hash out the fine points in a calm manner there would be a share of nutcases not amenable to reason…] Yeah. We suck. We know. You told us, already. Thanks for sharing. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/26 "2009-12-31T04:16:59Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > I just want to point out that we generally would have similar “debates” here anytime Bush drafted an executive order or law - however innocuous. And while many posters across the spectrum would hash out the fine points in a calm manner there would be a share of nutcases not amenable to reason. > > [Just a single example./](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=421759) Bush is basically a criminal. People would pile on him for ignoring the law because they were justified to do so. Obama’s been nothing except accomodating to his enemies and still they treat him like shit. We have gone far far beyond anyone being able to say “But your guy did it too!”. No, our guy didn’t. Bush did. Attacking him is justified. Attacking Obama is not because that’s all the right wing does ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/27 "2009-12-31T04:54:13Z")
here’s a good link: [http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/12/just-what-did-president-obamas-executive-order-regarding-interpol-do.html](http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/12/just-what-did-president-obamas-executive-order-regarding-interpol-do.html) Note that Obama’s order just extends Reagan’s. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/28 "2009-12-31T05:16:22Z")
Personally, I find the conservative media keeps raising my opinion of the Obama administration. I figure they’re watching him like hawks and reporting every bad thing he does. So I hear what they’re saying he’s doing and ask myself “how bad is that?” And then I figure everything else he’s doing must be less bad than that because if there was worse stuff the conservative media would have led with that. So when I hear things like Michelle Obama hugging the Queen of England or Barack Obama bowing to the Emperor of Japan or Janet Napolitano saying the system worked or an executive order extending the diplomatic immunity of Interpol and I’m told I’m supposed to be outraged, my actual response is to think “Is that all they’re doing? There must not be any real scandals out there.” ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/29 "2009-12-31T09:47:01Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Interpol is an intelligence agency that has no ability to arrest people. They provide intelligence to national law enforcement. So in a way interpol is an international spy organization that keeps tabs on the populaces of the entire world. You mean Inspector Zenigata doesn’t have the authority to arrest Lupin? For those of you scratching your heads, I’m referencing an anime called Lupin III ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/30 "2009-12-31T11:07:04Z")
Is anyone else tickled by the fact that conservatives are outraged over an extension of something Reagan did? ---
**Author:** ![PrettyVacant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@PrettyVacant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PrettyVacant)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/31 "2009-12-31T11:15:12Z")
Can we bag Kissinger yet? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/32 "2009-12-31T11:35:50Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > Is anyone else tickled by the fact that conservatives are outraged over an extension of something Reagan did? Nah, it figures. Reagan \*\*obviously \*\*did it right and perfect the first time around, so extending what he did must be akin to writing addenda to the Bible and codicils to the Ten Coms. Blasphemy ! ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/33 "2009-12-31T14:20:21Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > Is anyone else tickled by the fact that conservatives are outraged over an extension of something Reagan did? Same as it ever was. Notice how almost all anti-Obama screeds are merely recycled anti-Bush screeds? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/34 "2009-12-31T14:33:00Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Bush is basically a criminal. People would pile on him for ignoring the law because they were justified to do so. Obama’s been nothing except accomodating to his enemies and still they treat him like shit. We have gone far far beyond anyone being able to say “But your guy did it too!”. > > No, our guy didn’t. Bush did. Attacking him is justified. Attacking Obama is not because that’s all the right wing does Two points. First, several of the more conspicuous conservatives on this board in this thread are defending Obama on this issue - and not for the first time. Secondly, your little screed was just about identical in tone to those Freepers you despise so much - just directed at an opposite target. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/35 "2009-12-31T17:01:36Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Notice how almost all anti-Obama screeds are merely recycled anti-Bush screeds? Not seeing it. Waving it away as just the same thing pointed in a different direction wholly ignores the substance of what Bush did and what Obama is doing. They are worlds apart. No recycling to be found. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/36 "2009-12-31T17:22:12Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > Two points. First, several of the more conspicuous conservatives on this board in this thread are defending Obama on this issue - and not for the first time. Secondly, your little screed was just about identical in tone to those Freepers you despise so much - just directed at an opposite target. I haven’t been here long enough to know offhand who’s a conservative and who’s liberal, with a few exceptions. So I have no idea who you’re talking about. Usually I don’t look at names of posters anyway. Second, it might be identical in content, but my target is valid, unlike theirs. There’s pretty much no way conservatives are going to admit they’re wrong, so shutting off this avenue of attack just because it’s identical to what the conservatives used to do harms liberal interests. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/37 "2009-12-31T17:23:28Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Same as it ever was. Notice how almost all anti-Obama screeds are merely recycled anti-Bush screeds? Not particularly, no. Care to give some examples? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/38 "2009-12-31T17:26:01Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Not seeing it. Obama Messiah = Bush Messenger of God Obama is an empty suit Obama wants to institute a New World Order (In all fairness this is a criticism of every President made by the fringe) > [@](#): > > Waving it away as just the same thing pointed in a different direction wholly ignores the substance of what Bush did and what Obama is doing. Nope. It just points out that the right is recycling anti-Bush screeds and retrofitting them to be about Obama. Look at the ‘Obama bailout’ arguments. They completely forget that the Bush admin started the bailouts. > [@](#): > > They are worlds apart. No recycling to be found. You should watch Maddow more. ;p She did a great segment on the Tea Party movement pointing out how similar it is to failed leftist movements. Not Obama specific, but it just shows the mimicry coming in on the right. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/39 "2009-12-31T17:26:25Z")
> [@](#): > > Notice how almost all anti-Obama screeds are merely recycled anti-Bush screeds? Definitely. There’s still people who are convinced George W Bush was secretly an African Muslim who was trying to confiscate all our guns so we couldn’t resist his plans to set up communist death panels. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079/40 "2009-12-31T17:36:18Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > You should watch Maddow more. ;p She did a great segment on the Tea Party movement pointing out how similar it is to failed leftist movements. Not Obama specific, but it just shows the mimicry coming in on the right. Watch Maddow regularly (her show downloads to my iPhone and I watch it while commuting). You seem to be saying that disagreeing with someone is the same no matter who is doing it or what they are disagreeing about. By that simple measure then sure…they are similar. The devil is in the details though. Anti-Bush people were pissed about things like starting an unnecessary war or torturing people as a matter of policy. Anti-Obama people are on about him being a Manchurian Candidate and making Interpol our new sekkrit overlords. Hardly the same thing at all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-no-obama-imposes-one-world-govt-on-us-1-interpol-exec-order/523079.md?page=3)