# Oh NOEZ!!!1!!1! Obama to Give Socialist Indoctrination Talk to School Children!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 2, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645 "2009-09-02T16:35:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/181 "2009-09-04T21:24:23Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > This is a serious question, because I honestly don’t remember. Was there ever a speech or event involving Bush speaking to children in which elected officials accused him of attempting to brainwash children? Well, sort of: [http://www.tonysrants.com/national/perspective-dems-slammed-george-h-w-bush-for-address-to-schools/](http://www.tonysrants.com/national/perspective-dems-slammed-george-h-w-bush-for-address-to-schools/) ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/182 "2009-09-04T21:40:49Z")
When I picked up my soon-to-be five year-old son this afternoon from his pre-k class, he had this with him: > [@](#): > > Dear Parents, > President Obama announced that he will deliver a national address directly to students on the importance of education. The President will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a shared responsibility and commitment on the part of students, parents, and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens. > > This is the first time an American president has spoken directly to the nation’s school children about persisting and succeeding in school. We will be viewing this historic moment at our school on September 8, 2009. The President’s address will be webcast live on the White House website [www.whitehouse.gov](http://www.whitehouse.gov) at 12:00 p.m. > > Please indicate below whether you grant permission for your child to view this event. Really? A permission slip to hear _that_? 'Cause some folks might be upset? I’m really going to have to start taking drugs again if this shit keeps happening. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/183 "2009-09-04T21:41:26Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > I don’t get it, **Magiver** , you rant about what a waste of time the 20 minute speech is but say not a peep about the parents that will make their kids skip a full day of classes to avoid “indoctrination”. I’ll second this one without really expecting an answer. Why is the twenty minutes the bigger outrage? ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/184 "2009-09-04T21:50:00Z")
> [@Darth\_Nader](#): > > When I picked up my soon-to-be five year-old son this afternoon from his pre-k class, he had this with him: > > Really? A permission slip to hear _that_? 'Cause some folks might be upset? > > I’m really going to have to start taking drugs again if this shit keeps happening. That’s crazy. There should be a form required to opt _out_ of it. Preferably with a required essay explaining why, which will then be reviewed by the schoolboard to determine if the absence will be excused. Needing a permission slip to watch an address from the president? Crazytown. Your profile insinuates you’re from Texas. Is that accurate? It makes it slightly more understandable, what with them wanting to secede and all. ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/185 "2009-09-04T21:52:26Z")
> [@PhiloVance](#): > > Well, sort of: > [http://www.tonysrants.com/national/perspective-dems-slammed-george-h-w-bush-for-address-to-schools/](http://www.tonysrants.com/national/perspective-dems-slammed-george-h-w-bush-for-address-to-schools/) That was linked above already. It’s more of an outrage about the money being spent than on the content. It was re-election season, and I guess people thought it would be a campaign speech. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/186 "2009-09-04T22:05:33Z")
> [@Darth\_Nader](#): > > When I picked up my soon-to-be five year-old son this afternoon from his pre-k class, he had this with him: > > Really? A permission slip to hear _that_? 'Cause some folks might be upset? > > I’m really going to have to start taking drugs again if this shit keeps happening. You should write back. “Hmmm, that sounds suspiciously like a Nazi Socialist Satan-worshipping Recruitment Event. But, sure why not.” ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/187 "2009-09-04T22:48:23Z")
[Reagan did it](http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909030020) > [@](#): > > On November 14, 1988, Reagan addressed and took questions from students from four area middle schools in the Old Executive Office Building. According to press secretary Marlin Fitzwater, the speech was broadcast live and rebroadcast by C-Span, and Instructional Television Network fed the program “t o schools nationwide on three different days.” Much of Reagan’s speech that day covered the American “vision of self-government” and the need “to keep faith with the unfinished vision of the greatness and wonder of America” but in the middle of the speech, the president went off on a tangent about the importance of low taxes ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/188 "2009-09-04T23:07:27Z")
> [@PhiloVance](#): > > Well, sort of: > [http://www.tonysrants.com/national/perspective-dems-slammed-george-h-w-bush-for-address-to-schools/](http://www.tonysrants.com/national/perspective-dems-slammed-george-h-w-bush-for-address-to-schools/) > [@wierdaaron](#): > > That was linked above already. It’s more of an outrage about the money being spent than on the content. It was re-election season, and I guess people thought it would be a campaign speech. Thanks, **wierdaaron,** because I was honestly starting to feel that I was on everybody’s ignore list. I asked about that particular difference in complaint at least twice already, and haven’t gotten a reply. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/189 "2009-09-04T23:11:17Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > No, that’s what you don’t understand. We wouldn’t. Well, I wouldn’t. Der Trihs might, but he hates everything.. Fine – that’s why I said “a lot of people” not everyone. As Sam’s cite indicates, some liberals have gotten in a twist about it before; IMO, a lot more would have been if W had done it. > [@](#): > > This is what I posted on another board:Seriously, we would have watched it & then mocked the man. We were irreverent little cusses. Ditto. I think many, if not most, kids would have this reaction to any President. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/190 "2009-09-04T23:11:32Z")
I’ve been watching the comments on a Facebook poll on this all day. God, is it depressing. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/191 "2009-09-04T23:15:10Z")
Let’s keep in mind that Obama has been President for 8 months only and they are in a lather over it??? I mean this guy WON THE FREAKING ELECTION, why won’t they accept that??? ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/192 "2009-09-04T23:25:33Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I mean this guy WON THE FREAKING ELECTION, why won’t they accept that??? They are a SUPERPOWER, and superpowers _make their OWN reality!_ ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/193 "2009-09-04T23:31:08Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I’ve been watching the comments on a Facebook poll on this all day. God, is it depressing. I know exactly the poll you’re talking about. It’s incredibly depressing. It’s like everyone slightly to the right of George H. W. Bush has suddenly come down with a case of Teh Stoopidz. SOCIALISM! HITLER! POLITICS! I’m glad I don’t have any working wishes…in my current state I’d be wishing to restrict the right to vote to those who can prove they’re not tinfoil-hat insane. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/194 "2009-09-04T23:40:05Z")
Think of it this way: those voting on the poll would probably be the ones who’re outraged by the whole thing. That’d be the “tinfoil-hat insane” folks. Now, those “to the of George H.W. Bush” might be upset enough by those people to vote the opposite way, but here, the numbers are at a disadvantage, because they depend on the above group in the first place! (I hope that makes sense; I can see my point in my mind, but not how to express it.) ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/195 "2009-09-04T23:40:48Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > I don’t get it, **Magiver** , you rant about what a waste of time the 20 minute speech is but say not a peep about the parents that will make their kids skip a full day of classes to avoid “indoctrination”. I thought it was implied since my advice to the kids was to to work on their homework during the speech. Consider it no longer implied. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/196 "2009-09-04T23:40:58Z")
My school just announced that our entire school will gather in the auditorium to watch the speech. On Thursday. Parents will be able to opt out with their kids, and we’ll send them to the library with an alternate project. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/197 "2009-09-04T23:42:56Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > My school just announced that our entire school will gather in the auditorium to watch the speech. On Thursday. Parents will be able to opt out with their kids, and we’ll send them to the library with an alternate project. > > Sigh. They can watch the inauguration speech! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/198 "2009-09-04T23:47:04Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > They can watch the inauguration speech! I was thinking more along the lines of writing a paper on mass hysteria. Seriously, you know those situations in Africa where all the men suddenly become convinced a warlock has stolen their penis? Our country is starting to feel like that. ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/199 "2009-09-04T23:50:35Z")
Maybe this is exactly how it was 8 years ago, when Bush was 8 months into his term and every Democrat thought he was satan incarnate. Maybe that’s why they staged 9/11, to stop the partisan bickering over every little thing Bush did. Looking at the calendar, maybe it’s time to stockpile duct tape again. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645/200 "2009-09-04T23:52:40Z")
> [@wierdaaron](#): > > Maybe this is exactly how it was 8 years ago, when Bush was 8 months into his term and every Democrat thought he was satan incarnate. The thing is, when you say that some Democrats thought Bush was Satan incarnate, that’s a figure of speech. When you say some Republicans think Obama is Satan incarnate, it’s literal truth. Mass delusion of the sort I’ve not yet seen in this country. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-noez-1-1-obama-to-give-socialist-indoctrination-talk-to-school-children/508645.md?page=11)