Monday morning at PIT the normal security line was rather long and slow moving, so I went to the alternate checkpoint. Nobody was in line. Four TSA people at the metal detector and xray machine, and one at the podium to get there.
First one checks my ID and boarding pass without a problem, but then the four idiots at the metal detector were talking about watching Survivor and couldn’t be arsed to even begin letting my stuff go through the xray. They finally did run my things through the machine, but had to pause between bags to stop looking at the tv monitor for more discussion of Survivor. As I’m walking away with my stuff after 10 minutes of Survivor discussions, I hear one of them comment that they hate it when people are so damn impatient.
Except that the people behind you in line are not getting annoyed at TSA but at the dickhead (you) who is holding them up for no apparent reason. Whenever I’m waiting in the security line and someone in front of me has to be told by the TSA person to take off his jacket, or shoes, or whatever, or spends five minutes emptying his pockets just before he gets to the metal detector, despite all the signs and PA announcements explaining the rules, it’s not TSA that I’m cursing under my breath (or possibly out loud).
It’s not my fault that they have stupid rules. It’s not my fault that they don’t have enough people to speedily carry out the stupid rules. I happen to believe that passive resistance is the only way I can have any influence on getting things changed. I believe cooperation just makes things worse. I am sorry if you do not share my view. I am sorry if I inconvenience you but it is (generic) you who allow the stupid rules in the first place. If the whole public raised hell the rules would be rationalised in no time but the irrational public supports this kind of thing so I have no regret about making the irrational public wait.
Someone should and to the title of this thread, “and the dickwad passengers who think that their passive aggressive shit will make any difference to a TSA drone who gets paid to stand there whether the fucking line moves or not.”
Exactly. I’m generally calling the person who is holding up the line, the idiot passenger who thinks that it’s fun to wait until the last minute to realize he’s wearing 60 lbs of metal and can’t locate his ID or boarding pass a fucking asshole.
The person who is needlessly slowing down the process for everyone is the asshole.
It may not be your fault they have stupid rules, but it is your fault that you deliberately do not follow them until the last possible minute, and then you make an effort to be as extremely slow as you possibly can at it.
No, you fucking goat felching piece of shit, you are the one who makes things worse. The only thing you are influencing is the rage of the people behind you who just want to get the fuck through security and have breakfast before they get on a plane to go to their full day of work. You want to do something about the TSA? Get through the line faster and then use the extra time to write letters to your Senators and Reps.
Kindly piss up the nearest rope, you self-centered turd of a being. You are only making the situation worse by raising the annoyance and anger levels of everyone around you, including the TSA people, who will take their frustration at your obstinate, behavior out on the rest of the people they encounter.
People like you should be banned from air travel entirely.
You aren’t really stupid enough to believe that it is the TSA inspectors who are inconvenienced or discommoded by you, are you? They are there for the duration of their shift, whether you act like a retarded pile of shit or not. They don’t have planes to catch or appointments to meet. They have scheduled breaks and lunches whether you act like a retarded pile of shit or not. They get paid whether you act like a retarded pile of shit or not. None of your jerk-off “passive resistance” has the slightest effect whatsoever on the TSA employees. The only people you are harming are your fellow air travellers. You’ve just about cornered the market on being a dumbass in this and related threads.
Judging from the fact that several other posters here agree that people like you are the ones they will be blaming for the delay, I suspect that if the “irrational public” were ever to actually “raise hell” because they are being made to wait because of your “passive resistance” you (generic) would be the one getting the crap beat out of you, not the TSA employees.
Thank you for your kind words and understanding. Not being an American citizen I do not have a Senator or a Representative to write to. As soon as we foreigners are granted the right to vote in the USA I promise I will do so. In the meanwhile, as long as your laws inconvenience me I consider it my right to act as I do.
If that makes them put pressure to have the situation changed then I am achieving my objective.
Let me make it clear that I comply efficiently with reasonable rules but if I get attitude from idiots because they want to confiscate a tiny knife when I will be given a similar one on the airplane or secure airport restaurant then you can be sure I will be not cooperating. I have been abused enough that I do not care if people behind me are inconvenienced. Do you have a Representative and a Senator? Then YOU write them if you want something done. The fact is that for foreigners traveling to America has become a nightmare and I cannot blame any single congress being so I have to blame the entirety of the American people who have allowed this idiocy to happen.
If it were up to me I would not ever set foot in America again until this lunacy had ended. Unfortunately sometimes I have no other option. Still, I have curtailed my travel there as much as I could and I now go there much, much less than I used to. Which also means America is getting much less of my money. I am not a masochist and I am not about to spend my money so that I can be humiliated and inconvenienced. As I mentioned upthread I am not alone in this. America has lost billions of dollars in foreign tourism. But, hey, it seems America does not need anyone’s money these days.
Just about? I would say that, at least on this topic, he’s the grand emperor of dumbass.
Along with the shoe thing … originated in France.
I can’t say I would complain if he got the full cavity search from the TSA agent with the biggest hands.
You could contact the US Embassy in your own country and express your displeasure with the way our federal government behaves, or you can continue to be a douchebag. Though, considering that you opt to be a douchebag, may I suggest that you stay the fuck out of the US?
It doesn’t. It never will. The drone standing there at the checkpoint has no ability to change anything about the system. The only thing you can accomplish is annoying them, annoying all the other passengers, and in general making life more unpleasant for everyone.
Unless of course your objective is to be hated because you are a shitstain, in which case, you’re a stunning success.
We don’t want it. The customer is not always right, especially when the customer is a fucknut.
Guess what you are guaranteeing yourself by acting like an asshole at the checkpoint? You’re practically begging to be treated like shit.
Y’know, if those billions come from assholes like you, well, I’ll be happy to live without them.
Get a fucking grip on your whiny bitch little self. Passive resistance means things like
You’re not passively resisting, you’re just being a skidmark on the underpants of the travelling public. If you want to ‘passively resist’ the TSA, I suggest you try marching from the car park onto the plane without following any of their stupid security routines, and then take the subsequent beating and arrest without complaining or struggling. Then I might believe you have principles.
Yes, I know America these days has a huge budget surplus it does not know what to do with so much money and that you are all practically swimming in cash but, hey, there’s no need to rub it in.
How some of you think that insulting me is likely to change the way I think and act is beyond me. Sorry but I am not interested in receiving abuse here as I already get more abuse than I need from the TSA and American authorities.
We don’t, but it makes us feel better. Much as your idiotic drama-queening won’t have one nano-craps worth of effect on the TSA or the US government, but nonetheless it makes you feel like you are ‘resisting’.
I am not the drama queen here. I said I took off my belt rather slowly and a bunch of people jumped on my like I had made each and every one of them personally miss a connecting flight. I would say they are the drama queens not me.
If anyone wants to open a GD thread on this topic I will be glad to participate but I have no interest in trading childish insults, no matter how clever those hurling them might think they are.
You can buy them in the airport inside security, too, as well as bottles of liquid (cologne, liquor) and “gels” (from Clinique to ensaimada). And if you’re getting on a plane in the same airport where you got those items in the security zone, you can get your inflammable liquid in a glass bottle into the cabin with you. Just don’t try it in the next airport, where your formerly-inert can of pate de foie-gras will become a dangerous item by ken of having been bought in the wrong airport.
There are several issues at play here. I think we all understand the need for security and are happy to comply with what is needed to ensure security. The problem starts when you have really stupid rules which are just a nuisance and provide no security whatsoever. That undermines confidence and cooperation from passengers. Then you have rules which are unclear and enforced unevenly so that the item which was Ok in gate 33 is not OK in gate 22. And to top it off you have rudeness which is just totally unnecessary and unacceptable and should not be allowed.
I travel to many countries often and I have not seen anywhere else the level of rudeness and mistreatment I see in America. Why is that necessary? Most other countries seem to be able to enforce their security without the need to be rude to passengers. Why do American authorities need to be so rude to people?
I’m not disagreeing with you, but the rudest employees I’ve come across work in the Frankfurt airport. I get the feeling they are re-living the ‘glory’ days of the late 30’s, early 40’s. I work out my anger by pretending I’m flying in a B-17 of the same era when I fly there, heh.
Oh, believe me, I have come across some pretty rude people in other places too. About a year ago I was changing planes in Zurich and I had to go through security again and it was awfully slow. Then I arrive at the gate and a stupid Nazi-acting Swiss flight attendant starts lecturing me that I’m late and hurry up and show me your boarding pass, passport and whatever. So, as I am opening my bag to get the documents she harasses me to hurry up because the plane is waiting for me. I was about to explode but i just, very slowly, put down my bags and, very slowly explained to her that it is not my fault I am running late and that when I get nervous I cannot find anything so it is better if she just lets me find my things on my own without bugging me. And every time she would say something I would stop what I was doing and very slowly answer what she was saying. Until she realised the only way to get me to finish was to shut up.
As I say, there is no shortage of idiots anywhere in the world. But as a rule I find American authorities specially aggravating in that they are unnecessarily confrontational. That goes for TSA and Immigration, both.
I guess I’ve just been lucky. In all the traveling I’ve done since security was increased I’ve only had one remotely negative experience with TSA. I made a comment when told, rather rudely, that I had to remove my shoes about how I wish they were consistent about that. (At that time it varied from airport to airport, and there were no signs telling me that I had to remove my shoes, so how was I supposed to know if I had to take them off or not.) She got all indignant about “how she didn’t make the rules, she just enforced them” and I told her I had no problem with being told to take off my shoes, but how was I supposed to know I was supposed to do it if no one told me until I got to the front of the line.
I’ve had my CPAP visually inspected and tested for explosive residue (once it tested positive, but all they did was ask if the case might have been in contact with something) and once there was some problem with my carry on bag (they put it through the X-ray several times and searched it twice, because the X-ray was showing something - I remember at one point I was asked if there was a corkscrew in one of the pockets) but eventually it was decided everything was okay. Each time the TSA person was polite and professional, sometimes even apologizing for the delay. One time I had found after I reached the airport that I had left my ID at home, so when I reached security I was pulled aside for a pat-down (no body-cavity search, however) and a bit of questioning, but I certainly couldn’t blame them for that.
From my experience, part of the reason it takes so long to go through security is because people wait until they get to the front of the line to empty their pockets (which I do while I’m waiting in line) or don’t bother doing things like taking off their jackets or taking their laptops out of their cases under they’re told to (did they somehow miss the signs and every-two-minutes announcements about these things?).
The reason people people were jumping on you was because you said things like
and
which makes you part of the problem, not part of the solution. You talk about how you deliberately make things as difficult as possible for other people, and then wonder why they call you an asshole. :rolleyes:
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[li]Wear clothing that won’t set off the metal detector.[/li][li]Get to the Airport early enough not to be upset by being behind sailor.[/li][li]Eat and drink before you go through the security check[/li][li]Put your CRAP into checked luggage[/li][li]Put all your jewelry, watches, wallets, cell phones, the $20 in change that you MUST carry in your pocket for some unknown reason, Ipods, belts, clit rings, metal butt plugs, trusses, knees braces, and other assorted shit into your carry- on so it can be scanned. Do this BEFORE you get to the x-ray machine. Better yet, leave it off altogether and don’t put it back on until you get to your destination.[/li][/ol]