# Oh say can you seeEEEeee... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 6, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694 "2018-12-06T18:08:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/1 "2018-12-06T18:08:54Z")
…[that this teacher’s insane](https://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/story/news/2018/12/05/visalia-teacher-sings-anthem-chops-students-hair/2218275002/)? In the latest “teachers behaving badly” news, a high-school teacher begins cutting a student’s hair while singing _The Star-Spangled Banne_r. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/2 "2018-12-06T19:08:10Z")
Of course, she’s insane. Everybody knows you need four people for a barbershop quartet. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/3 "2018-12-06T19:48:27Z")
What was the teacher supposed to sing? “On Top Of Old Smokey”? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/4 "2018-12-06T19:55:28Z")
From the link in the OP: “She is a loving and kind lady. She is usually all smiles and laughs.” Can you say “[Stepford Smiler](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StepfordSmiler)”? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/5 "2018-12-06T19:56:27Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > What was the teacher supposed to sing? “On Top Of Old Smokey”? I’m thinkin’ something by CSNY. ---
**Author:** ![XOldiesJock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ec9cab/32.png) [@XOldiesJock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XOldiesJock)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/6 "2018-12-07T13:32:58Z")
That’s bizarre to say the least and I can’t even guess what was going on there, but it reminded me of an incident that occured when I was in Junior High School, 54 years ago. It was not long after the Beatles hit big. One of the football players had let his hair grow beyond school standards (it was barely touching his ears) and was told to get a haircut. When he didn’t, the principal and two other teachers lured him to the metal shop room, tied him up, and cut his hair with shop shears. You can imagine the result. His parents sued the school district and it became front page news. The school board (probably reluctantly) sided with the parents and the principal was asked to leave. I don’t know if the other two teachers suffered any consequences. No one involved was reported to have sung the Star Spangled Banner during the whole thing, but I wouldn’t have been surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/7 "2018-12-07T13:38:20Z")
Maybe she was auditioning for a [musical](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair_(musical)). Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![WildBlueYonder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce7236/32.png) [@WildBlueYonder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildBlueYonder)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/8 "2018-12-10T14:02:22Z")
I thought it was insanity too but apparently she had other similar incidents? What is the whole story? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/9 "2018-12-10T17:12:47Z")
> [@WildBlueYonder](#): > > I thought it was insanity too but apparently she had other similar incidents? What is the whole story? Students report that she had a “meltdown” two days prior, something about a missing test and accusing them of stealing it. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/10 "2018-12-10T17:19:53Z")
She obviously suffered some form of mental breakdown. I think it’s a situation where outrage needs to be tempered with compassion. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/11 "2018-12-10T17:27:39Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > I think it’s a situation where outrage needs to be tempered with compassion. Easy to say when you’re not the one sporting a new do. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/12 "2018-12-10T17:33:01Z")
That two week suspension for being unfit for service two years ago should have been a warning sign. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/13 "2018-12-10T17:53:43Z")
[She has been fired, arrested, and charged.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46500375) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/14 "2018-12-10T18:45:04Z")
“She is usually all smiles and laughs.” So’s the Joker but I wouldn’t want him near me with a sharp blade. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/15 "2018-12-11T17:28:55Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > She obviously suffered some form of mental breakdown. I think it’s a situation where outrage needs to be tempered with compassion. She’s in California, has a long history of working in education, and (per her Facebook page) is a Trump supporter. Did he say anything about those wildfires recently? ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/16 "2018-12-11T22:54:31Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Easy to say when you’re not the one sporting a new do. Well, hair grows back. This woman clearly needs psychological help. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-say-can-you-seeeeeeee/825694/17 "2018-12-13T04:53:23Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > and (per her Facebook page) is a Trump supporter. No wonder she has unresolved tonsorial issues.