# Oh shit! Here we go again.....(sniper?) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 15, 2003, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-shit-here-we-go-again-sniper/195429 "2003-08-15T17:48:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-shit-here-we-go-again-sniper/195429/21 "2003-08-17T01:09:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by fnord1966 \* > \*\*Unsupported, maybe, truthful, yes. > > I personally have a state(sheriff) issued CCW permit. There are no grey areas. In big citys the sheriffs department is under orders to not issue permits, small northern citys, after the class, FBI background check and interview, you can get one. Good throuout the state, and I am neither a celeb nor a polotician. \*\* And that’s great. But you didn’t say that in your initial post. I, for one, would not expose myself to the point where I would require the use of an affirmative defense to save myself from trouble. To reiterate, if you don’t have a CCW permit, don’t carry a concealed weapon. That’s all I’m saying. If you don’t, and you’re carrying, and you do use it, expect to spend a very long time and a considerable sum of money staying out of jail. ---
**Author:** ![fnord1966](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ad7895/32.png) [@fnord1966](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fnord1966)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-shit-here-we-go-again-sniper/195429/22 "2003-08-17T03:50:54Z")
Point taken. Should have been more specific. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-shit-here-we-go-again-sniper/195429/23 "2003-08-17T04:12:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zenster \* > And herein lies the problem with these long and drawn out murder trials. > > If we had already made an example of Malvo and given him the needle, maybe there wouldn’t be these copy cats crawling out of the woodwork. You are assuming that the copycat (assuming this is a copycat, and not a horrifyingly coincidental set of isolated incidents) is weighing the consequences of his actions. In reality, people who commit murder either aren’t thinking of consequences (as in crimes of passion, etc) or don’t believe they will be caught. Why would rapid execution of Malvo have had any effect? This guy is thinking to himself, “That Malvo was an idiot, leaving clues, taunting the police, sleeping in rest areas. _I_ won’t make any dumb mistakes like that!” ---
**Author:** ![SpasticKitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@SpasticKitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpasticKitty)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-shit-here-we-go-again-sniper/195429/24 "2003-08-17T06:03:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Shirley Ujest \* > \*\*I wonder if it is a teenager sickly trying to grab his ( or her) fifteen minutes of sick, sick fame. > > Does WV have the death penalty? \*\* No, it doesn’t. Charleston is my hometown. I’m in Morgantown right now, at college, but I’m scared for my family and friends at home. I just hope they catch this asshole, and soon. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-shit-here-we-go-again-sniper/195429/25 "2003-08-17T06:31:04Z")
There’s nothing on their website, but MSNBC was saying that police had a description of the vehicle. Of course, they thought the D. C. sniper was in a van for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-shit-here-we-go-again-sniper/195429/26 "2003-08-17T06:39:11Z")
Blackout/Shootout 2003!!! …and wait until winter… Whiteout 2003!!! ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-shit-here-we-go-again-sniper/195429/27 "2003-08-17T13:34:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zenster \* > \*\*And herein lies the problem with these long and drawn out murder trials. > > If we had already made an example of Malvo and given him the needle, maybe there wouldn’t be these copy cats crawling out of the woodwork. \*\* Do you _really_ think that would deter these miscreants? I agree that Malvo should get the DP (assuming he’s found guilty, of course), but let’s not kid ourselves. ---
**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-shit-here-we-go-again-sniper/195429/28 "2003-08-17T17:43:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by spooje \* > Do you _really_ think that would deter these miscreants? > > I agree that Malvo should get the DP (assuming he’s found guilty, of course), but let’s not kid ourselves. Hey! It’s a good place to start. ---
**Author:** ![Ryle\_Dup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Ryle\_Dup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryle_Dup)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-shit-here-we-go-again-sniper/195429/29 "2003-08-17T17:57:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by spooje \* > \*\*Do you _really_ think that would deter these miscreants? > > I agree that Malvo should get the DP (assuming he’s found guilty, of course), but let’s not kid ourselves. \*\* That would only end his punishment. Make him suffer in prison. ---
**Author:** ![Sunglasses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Sunglasses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunglasses)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-shit-here-we-go-again-sniper/195429/30 "2003-08-18T13:18:43Z")
I’d just like to jump back in and say that I was wrong about the two additional shootings on Friday. Local radio was reporting two rumored additional shootings but, the sheriff’s office said those reports were untrue at a news conference later in the day. I jumped the gun without waiting for confirmation. Sorry! ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-shit-here-we-go-again-sniper/195429/31 "2003-08-18T14:08:35Z")
> [@](#): > > I jumped the gun … Errrrrr … ---
**Author:** ![Sunglasses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Sunglasses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunglasses)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-shit-here-we-go-again-sniper/195429/32 "2003-08-18T14:19:47Z")
Grooooaaaaaaaan. Guess I owe a second apology! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-shit-here-we-go-again-sniper/195429.md?page=1)