# Oh, so you can't be bothered with me, huh CK Dex. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 24, 2006, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752 "2006-03-24T18:33:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/41 "2006-03-25T04:09:15Z")
And #4 seems more like a slap on the wrist than an official Warning. Anybody who doesn’t have a few of those on record hasn’t been trying. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/42 "2006-03-25T06:43:24Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > For crying out loud, **duffer** , of _course_, it’s case by case. If we set a hard and fast rule of six warnings, you’d be gone. Had your warnings occured in the span of two months instead of two years, you’d be gone. You’re still here, aren’t you? If you worried more about posting in a style which did not get you warnings, instead of worrying about how many more warnings you could get, you’d be a far more valuable member of the SDMB. Wow. As for the OP, suck it up bitch. Get a thicker skin. You have the ability to not respond to posts that offend you, you have the ability to ignore a poster, you have the ability to go to a different web page. Your whining about emails to mods, and their treatment of you, is sad. They are not babysitters, and you should be an adult. Mods do not get paid to do this (AFAIK), why would they want to wade through ten feet of shit (any American Idol thread) to find out whose wrist needs a slapping? If you’re an asshole, you’ll get banned eventually. Is that you, or just the other guy? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/43 "2006-03-25T06:57:57Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > No, but it would be nice to have more clarity in a Mod posting as a Mod or as a Doper. I’ve had a few threads where **tomndebb** , (being the first to come to mind) got a few personal digs that were more appropriate for a poster than a Mod. Same as you. Do you have a citation for a post in which I took a shot at you that carried the “[/Moderator Mode]” closing tag? Have you ever seen me engage any poster in an exchange of barbs, only to post in “[Moderator Mode]” to silence them? > [@](#): > > Post digs to me as a Doper, not a Mod. You know it carries more weight being a Mod and that there is less chance of a Doper challenging you based on your arbitrary position. We’ve all seen how Mods can sometimes be defensive. And that’s the same for us minions. The difference is, us minions have no power to issue warnings and build cases to ban Mods we don’t like. While this is potentially true, have you actually seen warnings issued that appeared to be based on simple dislike? I notice that I am the author of two of your warnings, (and yet, still you post!). I also noticed that in each case, _you_ responded by acknowledging that _you_ had violated the specific rule about personal insult in **GD**. I further note that I do not seem to have been engaged in any of the hostilities in the threads prior to issuing the warnings. In other words, it seems to me that despite the fact that abuses are hypothetically possible, we do not appear to be engaging in the abuses that concern you. (And if some Mod is doing so, it does not appear to be me, yet mine is the username you invoked in raising your point.) If I am acting as a Mod, I insert the “[Moderator]” tag into the post. To the best of my knowledge, _every_ Moderator follows some variant of that formula. If I issue a Warning, I will explicitly note that I am doing so. A post that lacks “[/Moderator Mode]” or “[/Moderating]” is simply a post by the individual **tomndebb**. A post that lacks an explicit statement that a poster has been Warned yet carries a “Moderator” tag is merely an effort to [del]Moderate[/del] _Arbitrarily interfere with_ frictions among other posters. The only way to truly avoid the issue that concerns you would be to prohibit Moderators from posting at all _except_ as Moderators. I doubt that you would find many posters willing to take on the hassle of Moderating if that was the only function permitted them. If you see a Moderator behaving in a manner you believe is biased, send an e-mail to TubaDiva or Ed Zotti or blast the Mod in the **Pit**. (There have been a couple of cases where Mods were **Pitted** and an examination of the case resulted in sanctions against the Mod. Does that mean that fairness always prevails? No more on the SDMB than in life, but we’re making the effort.) ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/44 "2006-03-25T07:02:14Z")
One point of clarification: the Teeming Millions asked the staff to be more explicit regarding official Warnings last May or June. Prior to that time (such as **duffer** ’s Warning number four, listed above), we had not always distinguished between admonishments to cool off and official Warnings. Since last June, I have, indeed, always included the word “Warning” when I have issued an official Warning. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/45 "2006-03-25T07:08:19Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > For crying out loud, **duffer** , of _course_, it’s case by case. If we set a hard and fast rule of six warnings, you’d be gone. Had your warnings occured in the span of two months instead of two years, you’d be gone. You’re still here, aren’t you? If you worried more about posting in a style which did not get you warnings, instead of worrying about how many more warnings you could get, you’d be a far more valuable member of the SDMB. Finally, I get some clarity of how many warnings I have. This is the first I’ve heard of the number and what they were for. Are they all permanent? Do any of them expire? What is the time-frame for my egregious offenses? What link do I click to see what my record is? **Frank** , I’ve been one of the Doper’s you’ve had issues with for a long time. Going back to when you were someone other than “Frank”. I don’t expect you to forget any animosity you had towards me when you were a minion like us, but as a Moderator I expect you to step back and moderate forums. If you want to get into threads, log in as a Doper. As a Moderator, keep your opinions to yourself as a Moderator. If you need to offer an opinion, log on as another Doper. Again, the “Moderator” tag is bullshit. You and other Mods hand out warnings from on-high with no accountability other than other Mods. You’re Arbiters, not Moderators. Like it or not, and hand out some warnings if you wish, but that’s what you are. This isn’t very important to me in the overall picture. But I am calling you out for thinking you’re better than those you disagree with. You have the power, and you’re letting it get to your head. 2 and a half years and I get to finally see how many warnings still stand against me. Of course, nothing about any of them having an expiration date. I love this tightrope bullshit. It’s so thrilling! ---
**Author:** ![don\_Jaime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b4bc9f/32.png) [@don\_Jaime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_Jaime)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/46 "2006-03-25T07:11:00Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > If you believe that a moderator is abusing his/her position to take unwarranted digs at a poster, please complain to the management. TubaDiva(at)[aol.com](http://aol.com) Let me just add, Biggirl, that if you feel a mod is falling down on the job, you might write her. I had the same combo you did back in August or so, when I reported Liberal for shitting up a Daily Show post in Cafe, and CKDH closed the thread and whined a whole lot instead of addressing Liberal directly. There followed a monster pit thread that didn’t faze him. When that got closed too, I wrote Ed Zotti an email. TubaDiva wrote back and the problem was taken care of, no thanks to Dex. I can’t say it would do you any good for sure, though. From what I’ve seen, Liberal’s toned it down a lot since then. But then, I don’t read his favorite haunt, GD, because it’s full of intellectually dishonest shitwits and is generally a complete waste of time. Nor am I pissing away my life reading five pages of _American Idol_ dribble. Those who have seem to share the opinion that you’re the idiot here. TubaDiva doesn’t suffer fools gladly. I’d shut up if I were you. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/47 "2006-03-25T07:12:27Z")
**Liberal** ’s schtick, **Biggirl** , is to crawl out along the thinnest edge of the ice and bait others into reacting, then he hits the report button. He’s a dishonest but clever master baiter who’s perfected the art of keeping a discussion just off topic enough to infuriate just about anybody who’s naive enough to engage him. Then, as soon as they point out what he’s doing, he goes whining to a mod about “personal attacks.” He’s always the one who takes a discussion into the realm of personal attack, but he’s very, very skilled at couching his childish pokes in innocuous language. I mostly ignore him, because when I don’t–pretty much every single time I engage him, no matter how hard I try to keep to the high road–he gets me in trouble. I recommend you try it, and I hope you’re more successful than I am. Just remind yourself that if it’s \*\*Liberal \*\*saying it, it’s not very likely to be worthy of a response. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/48 "2006-03-25T07:26:50Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > I don’t expect you to forget any animosity you had towards me when you were a minion like us, but as a Moderator I expect you to step back and moderate forums. If you want to get into threads, log in as a Doper. > > As a Moderator, keep your opinions to yourself as a Moderator. If you need to offer an opinion, log on as another Doper. ::dons fake mustache:: That’s the stupidest fucking thing I’ve ever heard. Were you perchance dropped on your head at some point? > [@](#): > > Again, the “Moderator” tag is bullshit. You and other Mods hand out warnings from on-high with no accountability other than other Mods. What do you mean no accountability? What more accountability could there be? It’s a message board. Who else were you hoping might provide oversight to the rogue mods of this site? Justice Department? FBI? A secret panel of nerds sworn to secrecy and committed to upholding Internet justice? (Not the mods, I mean, _another_ panel. A secret one.) ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/49 "2006-03-25T07:32:45Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > One point of clarification: the Teeming Millions asked the staff to be more explicit regarding official Warnings last May or June. Prior to that time (such as **duffer** ’s Warning number four, listed above), we had not always distinguished between admonishments to cool off and official Warnings. Since last June, I have, indeed, always included the word “Warning” when I have issued an official Warning. In that case, please e-mail me with the number of official warnings. I’m not even even asking for specific posts/threads. Just the number of warnings. Also, how many are permanent and how many are forgiven after a certain amount of time. And how long until the lesser warnings are expunged? You know damn well you’ve taken some shots at me. As is your right. However, as a Moderator you’re supposed to be above shots as you are a Moderator of threads. A Moderator keeps a thread within the rules of a forum, not jump in with opinions for or against any certain Doper. Again, you’re arbiters, not moderators. That’s the only thing I was trying to state. I’m sure I’m setting myself up for Mod-hell, but Goddammit, let’s drop the charade. Favoritism is shown time and again, and when it’s brought up, the malcontent is beaten down. I’ve come to accept it, but I expect the common decency on your part to allow me to speak up against it. You have all the power, I have none. Quit coming in as someone with all the power telling me I’m wrong and trying to intimidate me for criticizing the setup you’re abusing. If I’m so much a pain in the ass, and I’m so detrimental to the mission of the boards, ban me immediately. No hard feelings. Based on the actions of the “Moderators”, maybe it’s best. I don’t fit in with the majority sentiment here, and those that I do identify with on many subjects are better versed on the subjects. I’ve never changed anyone’s mind. And before anyone comes in with the Pity-Party shit, drop it. Just stating an opinion. I should be allowed at least that much. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/50 "2006-03-25T07:59:13Z")
Just to do a little ignorance-fighting… > [@Lynn](#): > > “Moderator” tags are built into the vBulletin software. I don’t know how much of a change we’d have to make to the coding in order to have a custom title, but we don’t like to make ANY unnecessary coding changes. It’s not a coding change. Changing the title of a usergroup is a built-in option, one that’s even easier than adding a new usergroup (e.g. “charter member”). All you do is go to the admin control panel, click “usergroups,” select “moderators,” and then change the title to whatever you want. Easy peasy. I’ve noticed that many times, things that people recommend or request re: the software are met automatically with a “nope, we prefer not to customize the board 'cause it’s too much trouble to upgrade later and/or maintain our service package.” Now, I dunno what your techie folks are telling you … sometimes techies make things sound much more difficult than they are so that you end up not asking 'em for anything! (I admit I’ve been guilty of that strategem myself. ;)) But the truth is, vBulletin is eXTREMELY flexible and you’d be amazed at how easy it is to customize. Some mighty sweet changes can be accomplished without any programming knowledge, major time investment, or risk of harming the system whatsoever. Thus endeth the Jelsoft commercial. 🙂 BTW, all this is not to say that I back **duffer** ’s request that you change “Moderator” to “Arbiter.” Blech. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/51 "2006-03-25T08:07:05Z")
> [@choie](#): > > […]“Arbiter.” Blech. The mods are clearly [not](http://arbiter13.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/covie-elite.jpg) arbiters. Several of them, though, are probably [squids.](http://www.jwlionheart.com/pics/Kirk/Giant_lg.jpg) Most likely giant squids. Can we change the Moderator title to Giant Squid? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/52 "2006-03-25T08:34:19Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > You know damn well you’ve taken some shots at me. As is your right. However, as a Moderator you’re supposed to be above shots as you are a Moderator of threads. A Moderator keeps a thread within the rules of a forum, not jump in with opinions for or against any certain Doper. You’re confusing me. Is it “my right” to take a shot at you"? Or am I supposed to be “above shots”? You placed two contradictory statements back to back. I have not denied taking shots at you. I have no intention of pretending otherwise. As a poster, I’d like to have the same fun as everyone else. My question was _have I ever taken a shot at you, then slapped you for responding_? Every Warning you have received is listed above. Of those, I am responsible for two of them and in each of those cases the violation was flagrant and you admitted as much, yourself, in the same thread. So where have I used my almighty power to crush you? I am making no claim that there has never been an instance where some Moderator displayed either favoritism or unfair enforcement based on animosity. I am saying that such is rare and that I have seen more Mods bend over backwards to deal less harshly with posters whom they dislike than the other way around. I have not witnessed every Moderator decision and I do not know the personal thoughts of every Moderator, so it is certainly possible that some Mod is being prejudicial to some poster or posters. However, based on discussions of “problem” posters (and I do not remember your name coming up), I suspect that that is a rare event. Looking over your warnings, I see that you’ve picked up a handful of warnings for _different_ issues. There has been no Final Warning issued. As far as I know, you are not even on any Mod’s radar as someone we think needs to be slapped down or reviewed for banning. > [@](#): > > I’ve come to accept it, but I expect the common decency on your part to allow me to speak up against it. You have all the power, I have none. Quit coming in as someone with all the power telling me I’m wrong and trying to intimidate me for criticizing the setup you’re abusing. You’re speaking against what you view as our terrible injustice, here, and no one has threatened you, at all. We’re just disagreeing with you. I have certainly not tried to silence you. On the other hand, if you are going to fling my name around as some abusive monster, I think I have the right to point out that I have done nothing out of line to you and to ask why I am being singled out as abusive. Yeah, we have “all the power,” (_I’m impressed_), but someone is going to have the power and for all your angst, I do not see where you have been oppressed. If you want to challenge a Moderator decision, go for it. It would clearly not be accurate to say that no Moderating decision has been reversed. Most are probably not reversed, but then, if _most_ were reversed, that would indicate that either the Moderating was really bad, to begin with, or that we were too susceptible to pressure to be effective. Feel free to express yourself, here. I have no intention of holding it against you. (If I ever decide to go on a vendetta, I doubt that your name would even make my list of targets.) I was just surprised that my name got invoked as someone who was abusing the Moderator powers in connection with _your_ posting. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/53 "2006-03-25T08:48:14Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > So where have I used my almighty power to crush you? [I can’t resist.](http://www.mpimages.net/mp/compressed/contributed_general/trip_reports/zlick/squid.jpg) ~escapes~ ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/54 "2006-03-25T08:59:05Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > If you see a Moderator behaving in a manner you believe is biased, send an e-mail to TubaDiva or Ed Zotti or blast the Mod in the **Pit**. (There have been a couple of cases where Mods were **Pitted** and an examination of the case resulted in sanctions against the Mod. Does that mean that fairness always prevails? No more on the SDMB than in life, but we’re making the effort.) Wait, what? Isn’t blasting a Mod in the Pit for how they do their job punishable by a 30 day suspension? ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/55 "2006-03-25T09:02:58Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > As a poster, I’d like to have the same fun as everyone else. > > My question was _have I ever taken a shot at you, then slapped you for responding_? Nope, never slapped me for responding. Of course, as a Moderator there shouldn’t be any shots taken. But maybe I have a distorted view on what a Moderator is. And I appreciate that you want to have fun as a poster. Maybe you should drop the Moderator tag and be a poster. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/56 "2006-03-25T09:05:08Z")
> [@Ellis Dee](#): > > Wait, what? Isn’t blasting a Mod in the Pit for how they do their job punishable by a 30 day suspension? Depends on the Mod. Some are more special than other’s. ---
**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/57 "2006-03-25T09:10:33Z")
Jeezus! “The mods don’t pay enough attention to me” Waaah! “The mods pay too much attention to me” Waaaah! Everyone seems to be under attack, and they’ve done nothing to provoke the circumstances at hand. :rolleyes: There needs to be a _Finger pointing_ forum to satisfy those that need to assign blame. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/58 "2006-03-25T09:39:28Z")
Dude, quit pissing on our parade. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/59 "2006-03-25T13:20:03Z")
> [@Ellis Dee](#): > > Wait, what? Isn’t blasting a Mod in the Pit for how they do their job punishable by a 30 day suspension? I’m probably wrong in this, but I’ll throw out a guess anyways. I think it has to do with _excessive_ mod abuse. You can post a thread disagreeing with a moderators decision (warning, thread closing, wearing white after labor day) and that’s fine and dandy. If your thread consists of one thousand profanities aimed at the mod and their entire lineage because of something they did in the course of their modly labours, you get a swat on your impudent bottom. What it boils down to is that the mods are volunteering to do an ugly and thankless job. Sure. They do get a coffee mug out of the deal, but let’s not playa hate. Try to keep things somewhere near civil. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752/60 "2006-03-25T13:51:34Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Nope, never slapped me for responding. Of course, **as a Moderator** there shouldn’t be any shots taken. I’ve highlighted what appears to me to be the problem. If a Moderator takes a shot at you **as a moderator** , you could rightfully complain (you’d still be a whiner in my book, but ymmv). But, I think **tomndebb** is saying that the shots he’s taken, haven’t been taken as a moderator, but as a poster. > [@duffer](#): > > But maybe I have a distorted view on what a Moderator is. Perhaps, but I think the more precise problem is your apparent inability to separate moderator action from poster action. All the warnings I’ve received have been clearly marked as such, and all the shots I’ve taken were clearly done as a poster. I haven’t seen you being treated any differently. > [@duffer](#): > > And I appreciate that you want to have fun as a poster. Maybe you should drop the Moderator tag and be a poster. Given that the moderator/poster dichotomy shouldn’t be that difficult to understand, I think it is completely unnecessary to require that moderators no longer act as posters. God knows what kind of moderation you would get if all moderators had to give up their posting privileges. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-so-you-cant-be-bothered-with-me-huh-ck-dex/349752.md?page=4)