# Oh the horror! First Bowling Green, now Atlanta! When will it end?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 9, 2017, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373 "2017-02-09T04:37:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/81 "2017-02-20T00:23:30Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Eastasia, I’m guessing.

Always at war with them.

Sad.

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/82 "2017-02-20T00:42:44Z")

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I stand with Sweden.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/83 "2017-02-20T02:14:35Z")

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I sit with Sweden.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/84 "2017-02-20T02:26:05Z")

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[ISIS claims responsibility for attacks happening inside Donald Trump’s Head.](http://newsthump.com/2017/02/19/isis-claims-responsibility-for-masterminding-sweden-attack-in-donald-trumps-head/)

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> White House officials have backed ISIS’ claims, saying it is further proof that travel must be restricted from any nation capable of fabricating an attack inside the President’s head.
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> A spokesperson explained, “Inside the President’s head many terrible things are happening, terrible things. Lots of people are saying so. It is up to us to take any steps necessary to prevent these many terrible things happening in his imagination.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/85 "2017-02-20T02:26:15Z")

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I’m going with Sokovia. We already have the Accords drawn up and everything!

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/86 "2017-02-20T02:26:56Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> I sit with Sweden.

Perhaps he did too.  
(Maybe he confused a tube of “Kalles” for his Preperation-H???)

“It was red white and blue… and I inherited it… and its quite a mess, my friends… quite a mess…”

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/87 "2017-02-20T07:10:08Z")

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Sweden? Wow. Who would’ve thought that the esteemed SDMB poster\* Jefferson is Trump?  
\*The SDMB is esteemed. Jefferson, nope, not even close.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/88 "2017-02-20T07:24:09Z")

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> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#):
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> Anyone want to lay bets on where the next imaginary attack will take place?

Mu.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/89 "2017-02-20T07:25:22Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> Mu.

Atlantis. Trump has never heard of Mu.

Then again, he probably thinks Atlantis is the resort.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/90 "2017-02-20T07:31:02Z")

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Was Trump upset there are refugees in Sweden, or is he annoyed at the extra parts lying around after putting together an IKEA Grumbleloft (or anything else)?

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/91 "2017-02-20T07:34:54Z")

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> Blank Slate:  
> “When Anusface makes one of his daily, inaccurate comments, what is going on exactly? Is he just a moron? Is he trolling? Does he have alzheimers?”

If you extend the word “moron” to include not just “organically stupid” but also “pathologically uninterested in reality” – in other words, _incurious_ in the extreme, beyond two SDs along the human spectrum for this dimension (let’s pretend for a moment it can be readily measured) – then “moron” is the best answer.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/92 "2017-02-20T08:07:25Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Was Trump upset there are refugees in Sweden, or is he annoyed at the extra parts lying around after putting together an IKEA Grumbleloft (or anything else)?

IKEA deliberately adds the occasional extra part, its kind of like an “easter egg”, a playful challenge for the customer. Swedes _do_ have a sense of humor, its just…different.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/93 "2017-02-20T14:14:13Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Atlantis. Trump has never heard of Mu.

Sure he has. It’s what his supporters chant at his rallies.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/94 "2017-02-20T14:35:57Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> …Did he just make up the “highest murder rate in 47 years” …

His brain is probably malfunctioning and most of what he says is pure bullshit, but for this particular thing, he basically screwed up the difference between the “highest murder rate” and the “biggest increase in the murder rate”. Apparently, Chicago (I think) did have the highest increase in the murder rate in something like 47 years. It’s a bit of a bullshit statistic, though, since it’s starting from a low level.

For example, just to make up numbers, if Chicago used to have 10,000 murders per year 47 years ago and that has been reduced to 1 murder per year last year, and then this year, the two people were murdered, then the murder rate went up by 100% :eek:.

Those numbers were made up, but the point is similar – the number of murder has come down drastically in Chicago and other places, so an increase year-over-year may show up as a large rate increase even if the numbers are relatively small compared to decades ago.

Now for my disclaimers. Chicago DID have a jump in the number of murders, and I think it’s similar to what it was back in the '90s, so that’s bad all by itself. Murder is bad, mmmkay? And, Chicago should do something to try and get the amount of violent crime under control. While violent crime is still lower that it was historically, we should try and get it lower still, of course. Also, Trump is a thin-skinned, delusional bullshit artist, and I hate to defend him in any way.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/95 "2017-02-20T16:46:25Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Atlantis. Trump has never heard of Mu.
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> Then again, he probably thinks Atlantis is the resort.

The spirits of the Atlanteans are strong - it will rise again.

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**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/96 "2017-02-20T17:09:45Z")

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> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#):
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> Anyone want to lay bets on where the next imaginary attack will take place?

Ankh-Morpork

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/97 "2017-02-20T19:17:40Z")

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> [@Battle\_Pope](#):
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> Trump must be sitting in briefings playing with his phone like a high-school kid, sending out victory tweets and occasionally looking up to make it appear he’s paying attention to the teacher.

I teach at a university, and his press conference last week reminded me of nothing more than an inattentive freshman who tries to answer a question when he hasn’t listened to the lecture or done the reading. There will be some relevant words, combined with some half-remembered tidbits and simplistic general knowledge, but with no coherence and no real substance.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/98 "2017-02-20T19:26:16Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I teach at a university, and his press conference last week reminded me of nothing more than an inattentive freshman who tries to answer a question when he hasn’t listened to the lecture or done the reading. There will be some relevant words, combined with some half-remembered tidbits and simplistic general knowledge, but with no coherence and no real substance.

The “presser” was a word salad of crazy. I tried to read a transcript, to see if it made more sense. It didn’t. Fucking pathetic. He likes to brag on his great mind and how much he knows, but the mish mosh of jibber jabber only confirmed that he was even more stupid and ignorant than I thought. In between the incomprehensible bullshit lines, it was just a bunch of whining, false claims, and attacks. Considering how low my opinion of him already was, all I can say is “holy shit”.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/99 "2017-02-20T19:26:24Z")

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What a surprise, Trump is [doubling down on his attack against Sweden](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/20/world/europe/trump-pursues-his-attack-on-sweden-with-scant-evidence.html?_r=0), based on no evidence apart from a poorly researched biased “documentary” that made shit up.

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> Another lawmaker, Pernilla Stalhammar, the foreign policy spokeswoman for the Green Party, expressed surprise that Mr. Trump had\*\* relied on Fox New\*\*s for information about Sweden.
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> “The problem is that the segment had \*\*a lot of incorrect information in it,” \*\*she said. “There aren’t any no-go zones in Sweden and the number of crimes against individuals is at about the same level as it was.”
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> She added: “This incident demonstrates the importance of thoroughly critiquing sources to prevent spreading incorrect images that risk fomenting xenophobic sentiments in society. That Sweden is portrayed incorrectly is very serious. **We cannot allow reality to be kidnapped by untruths that become true just because they are repeated enough times.** ”

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-the-horror-first-bowling-green-now-atlanta-when-will-it-end/779373/100 "2017-02-20T19:40:19Z")

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And now Trump is spreading the " no go" zone malarkey. Why am I not surprised it’s just before the release of the new and improved Muslim ban?

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